Instructor Question/Draw Shot Approach

Island Drive

Island Drive

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Right handed player 6'6''. Is the walk up to the shot (with a normal stance) the same....cutting balls to the left/cutting balls to the right/and the break shot? I ''always'' undercut the shot to the right (using the same walk up) and of course, it's more pronounced the longer the shot. What I've done to compensate for the undercutting of the shot to the right....I walk up more left before I get down. The reason I walk up to the cut shot to the right more to the left is this. When hitting thru the cue ball (with my normal approach/walk up) I tend to finish the follow thru with more l/h cueing thus squirting whitey more right and hitting object ball too full. I don't on l/h shots.
 
OK, I know there's a separate aiming forum and all that, I don't want to turn this into a big deal either. For a second, disregard the nay sayers and just for the hell of it, take a bit of time trying this out if you are undercutting shots.

I like to think of this as more an "approach / alignment" thing. As you approach the table, bring your cue vertically down on the line this method makes, see if it doesn't change the approach angle slightly and help eliminate undercutting. If you ever notice Mika Immonen's approach, he seems to alway raise and lower his cue vertically on an alignment line before he shoots. Whether he uses this method or not ... I don't know, but it is something to look into.

It's like chicken soup, it can't hurt to try aiming and aligning along this line if you can picture it. :thumbup:
 
Bill

Great to see you post.

I always try to approach my shots from the cut side...regardless.

Walking straight in did not work for me at all.

your friend
randyg
 
randyg said:
Bill

Great to see you post.

I always try to approach my shots from the cut side...regardless.

Walking straight in did not work for me at all.

your friend
randyg
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Would love to see a video of what you mean Randy. I have always come straight into the "aim line". Never thought of coming in any other way:confused::confused::confused:. If there is a video of this method please share a link...
 
Hey Bill,

Could be a severely dominant right eye. The tendency is to cue more left on the cb than realized. This will cause squirt to the right, resulting in undercutting shots to the right.

The solution can be in the approach, but its more of a visual issue. Pay attention to where the center of the cb is and don't lose it. Then adjust from there.

Everything is a habit. Habits can be broken.
 
randyg said:
Bill

Great to see you post.

I always try to approach my shots from the cut side...regardless.

Walking straight in did not work for me at all.

your friend
randyg
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That's nice to hear, thank you. I made an expression years ago to myself ''right to left and left to right''....ie if you cut shot to the left, walk up to the r/s of the ball and vise versa. It just got my curiosity. I thought maybe I'd not have to go back to my old ways, and with my new thinking I could play better than before, but I know your right RG.:thumbup2: At least I've got 2/3 of it right again, just trying to get the final piece back in place.
 
FranCrimi said:
Hey Bill,

Could be a severely dominant right eye. The tendency is to cue more left on the cb than realized. This will cause squirt to the right, resulting in undercutting shots to the right.

The solution can be in the approach, but its more of a visual issue. Pay attention to where the center of the cb is and don't lose it. Then adjust from there.

Everything is a habit. Habits can be broken.
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Thank you Fran, it's my last piece of this puzzle, I'm trying as of today to solidify what has worked for me in the past. I'm always willing to change to improve, but I know I've changed the wrong thing and because of it my carpal tunnel was acting up again in my bridge arm, so much so that years ago, I had to quit playing and rehab the arm for a year. When I see Strickland with the wraps on the bridge arm, I feel confident in saying he's Very aware of CTS.
 
Pete said:
Would love to see a video of what you mean Randy. I have always come straight into the "aim line". Never thought of coming in any other way:confused::confused::confused:. If there is a video of this method please share a link...
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PETE

Look at Geno's
Perfect Aim.

randyg
 
An instructor had me put an object ball dead center table and the cue ball diagonally 2nd diamond away dead to the opposite corner. Then I walked up to the shot, aimed, then laid my cue on the shot line and stood up and had a look. My cue was definitely NOT on the shot line! I then moved the cue to the correct position (centrer ball to center ball to opposite corner) and stood up again. By doing that I could SEE why my shots were squirting and missing. I now have my own "perfect aim" and only miss because of crappy mechanics (sometimes). Mitch
 
If you hit right cuts thick that would seem to me to be a left eye player not seeing the shot with their left eye.

When you practice right cuts, try standing more side on whilst aiming. Have the left shoulder closer to the cue ball and walk in and approach the shot this way. It tends to teach players how to get their head in the right position and forces their left eye to take control a bit more.
 
Island Drive said:
Right handed player 6'6''. Is the walk up to the shot (with a normal stance) the same....cutting balls to the left/cutting balls to the right/and the break shot? I ''always'' undercut the shot to the right (using the same walk up) and of course, it's more pronounced the longer the shot. What I've done to compensate for the undercutting of the shot to the right....I walk up more left before I get down. The reason I walk up to the cut shot to the right more to the left is this. When hitting thru the cue ball (with my normal approach/walk up) I tend to finish the follow thru with more l/h cueing thus squirting whitey more right and hitting object ball too full. I don't on l/h shots.
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It sounds like you might have a problem with your "vision center" and alignment. For advice and drills to help with this, see the following:

"vision center" resource page

Good luck,
Dave
 
FranCrimi said:
Hey Bill,

Could be a severely dominant right eye. The tendency is to cue more left on the cb than realized. This will cause squirt to the right, resulting in undercutting shots to the right.

The solution can be in the approach, but its more of a visual issue. Pay attention to where the center of the cb is and don't lose it. Then adjust from there.

Everything is a habit. Habits can be broken.
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I completely agree. I find I am generally throwing left hand English. To correct this I concentrate hitting center of CB.
 
Just got back from the room, left to right got me back on track. I was using right to left on all my approaches, why? since my approach worked good on right to left and the breaks so my thinking was, it Had to work when cutting from left to right, Wrong. I thought it would, more importantly was great hearing others thoughts on this matter to reconfirm what was right in the past is still right for me. Now I'm going to approach the break shot from left to right and see what that does as compared to right to left.
 
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