Interesting Quotes From Deno In The Latest Issue Of InsidePool....

Eydie Romano

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Here are some interesting quotes from Deno in the latest issue of
Inside Pool...

"Everything is first class and the players know it. For example, we
start our matches on time.
That sounds like a small thing, but most tournaments are run sort of
willy-nilly. We also pay our players on time.
Many players tell me that they are still owed money from promoters.
That will never happen here. We just don't operate that way."
 
Eydie Romano said:
Here are some interesting quotes from Deno in the latest issue of
Inside Pool...

"Everything is first class and the players know it. For example, we
start our matches on time.
That sounds like a small thing, but most tournaments are run sort of
willy-nilly. We also pay our players on time.
Many players tell me that they are still owed money from promoters.
That will never happen here. We just don't operate that way."

Eydie,
Maybe you should email this to Deno...lol
ruk
 
Eydie Romano said:
Here are some interesting quotes from Deno in the latest issue of
Inside Pool...

"Everything is first class and the players know it. For example, we
start our matches on time.
That sounds like a small thing, but most tournaments are run sort of
willy-nilly. We also pay our players on time.
Many players tell me that they are still owed money from promoters.
That will never happen here. We just don't operate that way."

You know, I find this really insulting as a tournament director/promoter.

I have only heard of maybe a hand full of promoters in the past, who did not pay their players on "time."

In addition Deno, if you have ever been to one of my events, they are "First Class" as well. I just don't go pissing away the players or my money on a lot of unnecessary BS. It's like you are saying that no one else BUT the IPT can run a first class event? I am wondering if The IPT got the bill from the Hilton with all the hidden costs, and this is where the players money has landed?

I know for a fact that the first Midwest Open/Expo deleted my savings of over $55,000+ in hidden costs.

I have always paid my players at the time of the event. They have never ever received a check in the mail unless they have asked to have it sent to them. I would be lynched if I told my players at the end of the event, sorry guys, you'll get the check in the mail...

Most tournaments do their best to start on time. IF you have a players auction, you don't know the exact time it will begin until the auction is over. And, if you are taking sign-up's at the door it can last even longer.

Deno, I know you read these forums, and I am just wondering why you would say these awful things, as they are matter a act?

Are you going to deny that you said these things, and that InsidePool is lying? I doubt if JR and Sally would misquote something as strong as these statements.
 
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I have a question....Who is Deno Andrews & how did he get his job, and new job title? I have been around pool for almost 20 years and up to 10 months ago, never heard of this guy.

Also, I would like to see if Inside Pool has the balls to do a follow up article, show Deno the quote, and drill him for an explanation.
 
Eydie Romano said:
Here are some interesting quotes from Deno in the latest issue of
Inside Pool...

"Everything is first class and the players know it. For example, we
start our matches on time. That sounds like a small thing, but most tournaments are run sort of willy-nilly. We also pay our players on time.
Many players tell me that they are still owed money from promoters.
That will never happen here. We just don't operate that way."

Well, let's be generous and say that Deno may have been mistaken. He was right about one thing, though. No pool organization has ever operated the way the IPT has. Thank heaven for that!

Those who would suggest that the PBT was even nearly as secretive on the matter of outstanding payments in its dark days are just kidding themselves.

Relating a personal experience, I sponsored a PBT professional player for several years in the mid to late 1990's. Our deal was that I picked up all expenses and give him a per diem in exchange for an agreed-to percentage of each of his prize checks. After each tournament in which he cashed, he'd sign over his prize check to me and I'd write him a check for his share of the winnings. Simple enough, until one of the checks from the PBT bounced, a check for $7,200! Still, I had no problem in following up with the PBT office. I spoke with Diane Mackey (Don's wife) a few times a week and she was honest with me, indicating that the prize fund hadn't yet been fully funded and that there would be no point in redepositing the prize check. Disappointing, but accurate. Sure enough, the day arrived when I was told that the prize fund would be fully funded by the next Monday. I redeposited the check on Monday, and, sure enough, it cleared. I know I was fortunate, but the fact was that the PBT office had been honest with me and accessible to me made the experience of waiting far less painful.

In contrast, the IPT just keeps lying to the players, telling them at players meetings when and how they will be paid and then not being as good as its word. In addition, player attempts to reach the IPT to find out the status of outstanding payments have been generally fruitless.

Even if the IPT ends up paying the players in full, it has behaved with operational ineptitude and a truly disgraceful lack of compassion for the players. Unfortunately, at the IPT, they actually DO operate that way!

In truth, however, despite carrying the title of Chief Operating Officer of the IPT, Deno is powerless to make payments if the IPT has insufficient capital to cover them, and that would certainly appear to be the case, though nobody knows for sure. Deno took on this role hoping to be part of something special, and perhaps the IPT will be special, but if it isn't Deno is a victim, one of many that put his faith in the wrong pool organization.

I don't doubt for a moment that when Deno made the claim the the IPT pays the players prompltly, he believed it to be true. He gets a free pass, at least from me, on this occasion, and has my wishes that things turn around at the IPT.
 
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watchez said:
I have a question....Who is Deno Andrews & how did he get his job, and new job title? I have been around pool for almost 20 years and up to 10 months ago, never heard of this guy.

Also, I would like to see if Inside Pool has the balls to do a follow up article, show Deno the quote, and drill him for an explanation.

Deno is a very talented and accomplished three cushion billiards player and has even done some AccuStats commentary of major matches in that sport. He has a true love of cue sports. He is well-educated and articulate, dresses nicely, and presents himself well. I have seen him at several pool events that I have attended over the years.

Deno is also highly skilled and very expereinced at running round robin style events, largely because it is such a common format in three cushion billiards

Deno was a solid choice for the job he was given.
 
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Well if you are the Chief Operating Officer of an organization then you have the power to make payments or tell someone to make payments. Or you stand up and take the heat for not making payments. Just looking good in a suit and being able to draw your ball doesn't qualify you to run a multi million dollar organization (that is what the IPT is, or was suppose to be until they decided not to pay out the millions owed). Seems to me that Deno didn't have this title during the Vegas tournament but did during the Reno. I don't know Deno from Adam but in the month he has been the Chief Operating Officer, no one has been paid & the IPT has lost all credibility. And if you live in a glass house, don't throw stones.

Real Pool, Real Rules, Real Money
 
Keep in mind that it has only been 17 days since payment was expected.

A COO better know the status of the company.

JJJ
 
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watchez said:
I have a question....Who is Deno Andrews & how did he get his job, and new job title? I have been around pool for almost 20 years and up to 10 months ago, never heard of this guy.

Also, I would like to see if Inside Pool has the balls to do a follow up article, show Deno the quote, and drill him for an explanation.

Are you nuts! Sally and JR have their heads so far up Kevin and Deno's asses that they are actually digesting for them and reprocessing the crap. There is no journalistic integrity concerning the IPT as far as Inside Pool goes in my opinion.

IF Kevin Trudeau is considered a scam artist then he would be JR Calvert's absolute hero in that regard.

Deno has in fact been "around" billiards for quite a while. He is primarily a three cushion billiards player. He also has a bit of a stuck up air to him that is common among "billiard" players. He is probably the best qualified guy for the job of being tour director of the IPT and keeping the tournaments and players in-line so to speak. What the new title of CEO means is beyond me. Perhaps another word for "fall guy" if things do go bad.

The comments however are so asinine, especially in light of current events.

John
 
onepocketchump said:
Are you nuts! Sally and JR have their heads so far up Kevin and Deno's asses that they are actually digesting for them and reprocessing the crap. There is no journalistic integrity concerning the IPT as far as Inside Pool goes in my opinion.

IF Kevin Trudeau is considered a scam artist then he would be JR Calvert's absolute hero in that regard.
John


Crikey! Don't say another word until I get back from the store, I'm out of popcorn.....

Doug
(where'd I put my keys)
 
Whew, what an ordeal. The stores were closed, but fast thinking got me to the movie rental store and a box of Act II Butter popcorn... (and, some Sno-Caps)
Doug
(please carry on)


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Uh-oh, Deno is online and reading the threads in this section.... Oy-Vey !
(I'm popping as fast as i can)
 
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Smorgass Bored said:
Whew, what an ordeal. The stores were closed, but fast thinking got me to the movie rental store and a box of Act II Butter popcorn... (and, some Sno-Caps)
Doug
(please carry on)


The last time I bought popcorn at Blockbuster, it was stale! Just like how the IPT seems to be is becoming. :(

I am still hopeful that things will work out for the players and this tour, but day after day it seems to get worse.
 
I don't think we can blame Deno. He is probably forbidden from commenting. Anything he says must come from KT.

Gabber
 
There is every chance that Deno is too shell shocked to say anything.

I don't know the guy but I do know if I was in his position I'd be very angry for allowing myself to be put in such a position.

KT already has a bad rep and if this goes on so will Deno. Deno's only way to save face is to come clean now. And tell us all the gossip.:D

Noodles
 
Noodles said:
There is every chance that Deno is too shell shocked to say anything.

I don't know the guy but I do know if I was in his position I'd be very angry for allowing myself to be put in such a position.

KT already has a bad rep and if this goes on so will Deno. Deno's only way to save face is to come clean now. And tell us all the gossip.:D

Noodles

Deno is in the employ of KT, so he has an obligation to act in his interests. If he were to speak out against KT while in his employ, it would be unethical IMO.

If and when he thinks there is funny business that warrants his speaking out, I have no doubt that he will resign his position and do so.

Given his reputation and square dealings up to this point, the fact that he has not done so, tells me that at least there is something that they're working on to get the players paid. He will work very hard to make sure the players are done right by. So long as there's a chance he can do that, he will not speak out and he will not resign. If and when he feels like there is nothing more he can do on behalf of the players, I have no doubt he'll resign.

Until that day, I'm content to wait it out.

Cheers,
RC
 
sixpack said:
Deno is in the employ of KT, so he has an obligation to act in his interests. If he were to speak out against KT while in his employ, it would be unethical IMO.

If and when he thinks there is funny business that warrants his speaking out, I have no doubt that he will resign his position and do so.

Given his reputation and square dealings up to this point, the fact that he has not done so, tells me that at least there is something that they're working on to get the players paid. He will work very hard to make sure the players are done right by. So long as there's a chance he can do that, he will not speak out and he will not resign. If and when he feels like there is nothing more he can do on behalf of the players, I have no doubt he'll resign.

Until that day, I'm content to wait it out.

Cheers,
RC

I have a bridge for sale and also some ocean front property in Arizona.....cheap.
 
Gabber said:
I don't think we can blame Deno. He is probably forbidden from commenting. Anything he says must come from KT.

Gabber
That is not a CEO, tht is a Puppet.
 
watchez said:
I have a bridge for sale and also some ocean front property in Arizona.....cheap.

If it's not pool related, you can't sell it here.

:D

Cheers,
RC
 
Well, it isn't Deno's fault that his boss sold him out and made him look foolish. The spiel from the IPT was that they'd be serious business. Deno said those things meaning them. When KT and the IPT can't or won't pay for whatever reason, they're hurting Deno who is the IPT's face (after KT of course).

So far, due to the various debacles...the REAL RULES part was pretty much destroyed by the silly lack of a one-foot on the floor rule and people climbing ontop of tables. The REAL MONEY part is pretty much done too as they are doing exactly that which they emphatically stated they'd never do.

All that's left is the REAL POOL part. Well...aside from the Sigel vs. Jones match...I *think* it's all be real. Time will tell LOL.
 
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