IPT choosing Diamond Tables

back2good1

back2good1

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I got an email from the BCA that mentioned that the IPT has decided to use Diamond tables. The way Kevin was talking in the Q&A section of the website about I would have bet he was gonna go with the GC. In the end... I like that decision.

-Back2good1
 
back2good1 said:
I got an email from the BCA that mentioned that the IPT has decided to use Diamond tables. The way Kevin was talking in the Q&A section of the website about I would have bet he was gonna go with the GC. In the end... I like that decision.

-Back2good1
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Can't real beat a good GC ..When is this ipt tour going to start ? And will it be viewed on line somewere?
 
back2good1 said:
I got an email from the BCA that mentioned that the IPT has decided to use Diamond tables. The way Kevin was talking in the Q&A section of the website about I would have bet he was gonna go with the GC. In the end... I like that decision.

-Back2good1
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IMO, the Diamond tables were the best solution bar none. They are the only table manufacturer that can offer the tolerance and size pockets that Kevin/Mike are looking for, and they have the one piece slate that allows them to more cost effectively setup and break down their equipment.

Plus, they're the best. Greg Sullivan has always put pool and the enjoyment of pool first and foremost. I'm glad he will be part of this tremendous opportunity.

Fred
 
They didnt specify Diamond Smart tables.... but if they are going to be using the same tables at every event... the Smart table would be the way to go.

-Back2good1
 
What are the particular playing characteristics of the Diamond that differentiate it from the average table?

eg: Pockets accept at speed, rail angles on banks/kicks, jaw cut etc?
 
deadstroke32 said:
Can't real beat a good GC ..When is this ipt tour going to start ? And will it be viewed on line somewere?
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The tour will "kick-off" with the Invitational in Orlando at the end of the month. Tournaments will start in January. Their website is www.internationalpooltour.com, which has the tour schedule and more information. You can also sign up for their mailing list to recieve updates and press releases.
 
Colin Colenso said:
What are the particular playing characteristics of the Diamond that differentiate it from the average table?

eg: Pockets accept at speed, rail angles on banks/kicks, jaw cut etc?
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The answer to this question is really too long. The short answer is that Diamond Billiards and Greg Sullivan perfected the specifications to their table based on what players were looking for.

The pockets for the 4 1/2" version (the version that is used for pro tournaments) are angled and shelved such that the balls need to hit the pocket to go in, but that a ball can't go so deep into a pocket without going in. Greg reports an actual formula/criteria for the amount of ball that can be "out of view" before it falls. I want to say that once over 60% of the ball is "out of view" when sighting down the cushion, it must fall in. That being said, a poorly hit shot that grazes the cushion will mostly not fall in.

The cushions aren't K66 profile, to the best of my recollection. They are K55. I'm not sure the reasoning, but I certainly can't complain about them.

The rail tops have a specific curve for proper palm resting.

The leather pocket backings are flush without being too high like most other leather pockets. No plastic pocket backing to put black marks on your cue.

There's more, but suffice it to say, I know of no other table manufacturer that has looked at more details of the table from a playability standpoint that Diamond Billiards.

Fred
 
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Sweet Marissa said:
The tour will "kick-off" with the Invitational in Orlando at the end of the month. Tournaments will start in January. Their website is www.internationalpooltour.com, which has the tour schedule and more information. You can also sign up for their mailing list to recieve updates and press releases.
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Boy You are not just a pretty face, You have all the info. to..May all the rolls go your way..

Thanks...
 
Diamonds

Colin Colenso said:
What are the particular playing characteristics of the Diamond that differentiate it from the average table?

eg: Pockets accept at speed, rail angles on banks/kicks, jaw cut etc?
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Jaw cut is more square, making the pockets reject off center shots more easily, the rails ride higher, so banked balls react slightly differently and bank tighter, other than that they play pretty much like any table except if they do have one piece slate they are more likely to roll straighter/better.
 
Cornerman said:
and they have the one piece slate that allows them to more cost effectively setup and break down their equipment.

Fred
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What size table will the IPT play on.?..It doesn't specify on the IPT site. I don't think you can assume its a small one piece slate table.
 
Not only, as stated, do the pockets play tight and true, but the rails play a rebound at a more accurate angle. Also as stated the pockets do not get in the way of the shooter, they are flush.
 
1 piece slate.

Diamond makes a 1 piece slate for their 7' and 9' Smart Tables. I would assume the IPT will be playing on the 9' Diamond Pro, 1 piece slate, smart table.
 
back2good1 said:
They didnt specify Diamond Smart tables.... but if they are going to be using the same tables at every event... the Smart table would be the way to go.

-Back2good1
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Were Diamond Smart tables used at the Open? I can't remember but I remember the players weren't too crazy about them. Something about the angle of the way the pockets were cut.
 
misterpoole said:
What size table will the IPT play on.?..It doesn't specify on the IPT site. I don't think you can assume its a small one piece slate table.
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I don't have to assume it. Greg Sullivan told me. It's the 9' Pro-Am table with single-piece slate.

Fred
 
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Yes, Diamond tables were used at the US open. The reason people were complaining was because they couldnt run out!!! The tables play tough! But from a players and table mechanics point of view, they are the best tables in the world.(never fixed a gabriel pool table though) But the quality and the way the Diamond table assembles in place is pretty sweet, everything comes out very flush and nice.
 
I would bet 90% plus of pool halls use a fast cloth... do you think that now that the IPT will be using a slower cloth that many room owners will change the cloth they use? I used to play on bar tables with slow felt (shag) and I would much rather play on simonis!

-Back2good1
 
Slow Cloth

Yeah, I though that was interesting that the IPT chose slow nap cloth as their standard. I know that there are a lot of pool leagues out there that play on nap cloth, but just how many avid pool players and pros do? If the IPT takes off I could see nap cloth making a come back, or force Simonis, Champion, etc to come out with maybe a slower version. I wonder why the IPT chose the nap cloth? Any thoughts?
 
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Diamonds play great but they do tend to bank a little shorter of where you are thinking. You have to adjust to any table so this should be no different.

Fred or anyone ????
Is the Pro-Am the model with the really deep pocket shelf?
 
The table that will be used for the IPT is the same table that was used at the US Open. Although some of the players expressed concern about the pockets at the US Open, the EXACT same tables were shipped to Vegas for the US OPEN one pocket. New cloth was put on them.

Here is the kicker - Several players could NOT BELIEVE they were the same tables. The answer to the pocketing changes is "humidity".

The standard pro cut pocket size is 4-9/16" +/- 1/16". The IPT will be about 4-1/2". Mostly because the thickness of the Mali cloth. In addition, it will be interesting to see how the humidity affects the tables between Orlando and Las Vegas. Expect to hear a lot of crying in Orlando.

The average humidity in Vegas is under 30%. I am ot sure what it is in Virgiania (US Open) or Orlando - but you can bet it is a lot higher.

We (at Diamond) are really looking forward to being involved with the IPT. This is probably the most exciting thing to ever happen in or for pool. We will do everyhting in our power to make this a success - and hope that everyone will join in.

Please remember to turn on your TV for the Sigel/Jones match on Nov. 17th (10:30 PM local) on Fox Sports Netwrok (FSN). It would be nice if the first TV event would send the ratings through the roof. This is what everyone has been waiting for - now lets go out and support it!!

If you have any questions,feel free to contact Diamond or myself. However, KT runs the show and all we are doing is providing the best equipment. Let's all wish everyone the best of luck!

Mark Griffin,CEO
BCA Pool League
 
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