IPT Q'er Winners Still have to Pay Entry Fee?

cuechick

Flys In the Kitchen
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After paying $1000 to enter a Qualifier + travel fees, I do not understand having to pay an additional entry fee for the event they just paid to Qualify for?
Does this not seem wrong to anyone else?
 
What additional entry fee do the 50 qualifiers have to pay? Is it the same US$ 199/- that the 150 tour members will pay?
 
cuechick said:
After paying $1000 to enter a Qualifier + travel fees, I do not understand having to pay an additional entry fee for the event they just paid to Qualify for?
Does this not seem wrong to anyone else?
Doesnt seem wrong to me, they qualified to be able to play in it. So therefore they shouldnt be treated any different, they should have to pay the entry fee. Regardless, the last place prize in the tourny is about twice the amount of the the cost of the qualifier and entry to the tourny.
 
Presuming from the above answer from Icon of Sin that the additional fee is the same US$199/- the 150 IPT tour members will pay.

In its "Schedule" section the IPT site itself states/advertises pretty clearly that the entry fees are:-

US$ 199/- Tour Members

US$ 1,000/- Non Tour Members

Shouldn't that read "Non Tour Members US$ 1,199/- or US$ 699/-" ??
 
They have to pay an additional 1000.00 (this is what I was told by my friend who won an entry), they are not "members". IMO, the 1000.00 they paid to enter the Qualifer should cover their entry. Other wise they are really paying 2000.00! + all their travel expenses.
 
I think your friend has read it wrong, the $1000 fee to enter the tournament which it says on the site for non-tour members is the price to enter the qualifiers, and not to actually enter the tournament.

I could be wrong but i'm sure i'm right.

EDIT: In other words, i think the qualified players are automatically in.
 
cuechick said:
They have to pay an additional 1000.00 (this is what I was told by my friend who won an entry), they are not "members". IMO, the 1000.00 they paid to enter the Qualifer should cover their entry. Other wise they are really paying 2000.00! + all their travel expenses.

Your friend must be wrong, if you pay $1,000 to enter a qualifier for a tournament and then you win the qualifier, you are then in the main tournament.

If they are asking your friend to pay an additional $1,000 to enter the tournament he's already won a spot in, is absolutely ridiculous.
 
From the IPT website, this is posted above the qualifying event schedule.

There will be 25 qualifying tournaments worldwide for entry into the IPT North American 8-Ball Open Championship to be held at the Venetian in Las Vegas, Nevada from July 22-30, 2006. The players who take first and second place in each of these 25 qualifiers will earn their spots to compete in this North American Open.

So it seems clear that your friend has won a spot in the IPT North American 8-Ball Open Championship.
It does not say he has earned the right to pay for a spot in the tournament.

Congratulations to your friend, and good luck to him in the tournament.
 
Where it says entry fee for Non-Tour member $1,000.
That $1,000 obviously comes out of the prize fund of the qualifier that your friend won.
Otherwise he would win the qualifier, the IPT would keep all the money and then he would have to pay $1,000 again plus expenses.

I know pool players have been getting shafted for years, but the IPT is not like those previous tours.This tour is above board and will be around for many years to come.;)
 
All I know is what he told me, I asked him if they paid any expense money with his win, he said "Nothing, and I still have to pay the entry fee."
I think the boy would know what his obligation was...


FYI "Kid":
From the IPT site Under Schedule:

Players: 200 - (150 Tour Members, 50 Qualifiers)

Dates: July 22 - 30, 2006

Location: The Venetian in Las Vegas, Nevada

Entry Fee:Tour Member: $199.00
Non-Tour Member: $1000.00
 
No disrespect cue chick but if this boy's info is the one and only basis of your conclusion that a further entry fee has to be paid by all qualifiers I think you will almost certainly find that there has been some misunderstanding in someone's communications with him.Certainly all the expenses are for his own pocket but another extra US$ 1,000/- !!!Absolutely no earthly way can that be correct information.

Think he really needs to get in touch with IPT direct asap.
 
cuechick said:
All I know is what he told me, I asked him if they paid any expense money with his win, he said "Nothing, and I still have to pay the entry fee."
I think the boy would know what his obligation was...


FYI "Kid":
From the IPT site Under Schedule:

Players: 200 - (150 Tour Members, 50 Qualifiers)

Dates: July 22 - 30, 2006

Location: The Venetian in Las Vegas, Nevada

Entry Fee:Tour Member: $199.00
Non-Tour Member: $1000.00

That seems pretty skunky to me. I have never seen a qualifier in pool where it did not include the entry fee. At the very least it should have been made extra clear on the IPT site that it was not a paid spot!

Kid - I think you are seeing the IPT through rose colored glasses. Take them off, stand back and see if you can be more objective.
 
Nostroke said:
That seems pretty skunky to me. I have never seen a qualifier in pool where it did not include the entry fee. At the very least it should have been made extra clear on the IPT site that it was not a paid spot!

Have you ever seen a Qualifer that had no payouts either? I really hope I am wrong about this; but I do not think so.
I think the IPT sees it this way, that hundreds of players would have wanted one of the 50 open spots and that alone was what you earned with a Q'er win.
 
cuechick said:
Have you ever seen a Qualifer that had no payouts either? I really hope I am wrong about this; but I do not think so.
I think the IPT sees it this way, that hundreds of players would have wanted one of the 50 open spots and that alone was what you earned with a Q'er win.

No but i thought the lack of a pay-out was because an expensive paid spot was included. Now if that isnt included, there just is no excuse-just flabbergasting!
 
No way is there an extra US$1,000/- to be paid by any of the 50 qualifiers.

The info regarding entry fees has been on the IPT site since several months ago when they fixed the entry fees for qualifying tourneys for the vacant 2006 Tour Member slots at US$ 2,000/- and the entry fees for each individual open tournament at US$1,000/-.They hadn't even came up with the US$500/- option at that stage.

Tell you what.....if anyone who has already won a qualifying place,including cuechick's friend, sends me say US$ 300/- I will pay to IPT on their behalf any further entry fee that IPT asks them to pay.....deal? LOL
 
That'll be no takers then........pity....would have been the easiest pool money I've earned this year:)
 
This issue came up during the Seattle qualifier at Jillian's this past w/e.

Mike Vidas, who qualified as the winner on the A-side, was initially told that he (also) needed to pay $1000 to enter the July tournament. The source of that position was an unnamed (to us) IPT representative whom Tiffany (who ran the qualifier) spoke to on the phone Sunday morning while Mike was filling out his paperwork.

About 15 minutes later, the next that we heard was... Deno Andrews was contacted and reportedly Deno said... no, he didn't.

Like many things in the IPT thus far, they're creating on the fly... which is OK... but leads to a lot of confusion along the way.
 
memikey said:
No way is there an extra US$1,000/- to be paid by any of the 50 qualifiers.

The info regarding entry fees has been on the IPT site since several months ago when they fixed the entry fees for qualifying tourneys for the vacant 2006 Tour Member slots at US$ 2,000/- and the entry fees for each individual open tournament at US$1,000/-.They hadn't even came up with the US$500/- option at that stage.

Tell you what.....if anyone who has already won a qualifying place,including cuechick's friend, sends me say US$ 300/- I will pay to IPT on their behalf any further entry fee that IPT asks them to pay.....deal? LOL

I will be more than happy to sponsor a play who has already won a qualifier to the main tournament. $1000 more when last place is $6000 is pretty much a no-brainer.

I would think it would be ridiculously easy for any player skilled enough to win a qualifier to come up with a dime. There has got to be tons of backers willing to front the money.

John
 
onepocketchump said:
I will be more than happy to sponsor a play who has already won a qualifier to the main tournament. $1000 more when last place is $6000 is pretty much a no-brainer.

I would think it would be ridiculously easy for any player skilled enough to win a qualifier to come up with a dime. There has got to be tons of backers willing to front the money.

John

Um, last place is $2000, not $6K. I doubt anyone with the capabilities to win a Q will have trouble making it to the next bracket, which is $5K, but then you never know what will happen in pool. As we say around here, "Anything involving a ball...." :p
 
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