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onepocketchump
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hemicudas said:
I don't think Jean wants to play. For whatever reason she just doesn't want to come back. I hear she still hits balls as good as anyone.
John
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I don't think Jean wants to play. For whatever reason she just doesn't want to come back. I hear she still hits balls as good as anyone.
John
onepocketchump said:
I hope my post wasn't misunderstood. Like I said, I really didn't expect to get in because I felt that, out of the thousands of applications they got, they would certainly find 150 players that should have been selected before me. However, when the list came out and I saw quite a few names on there that I know play beneath me, I got irritated - not only irritated for myself, but for a lot of the other guys who should have been selected long before I was considered. But, like I said, I was using my own criteria, namely skill level, to say who "should have been selected". Obviously KT selected people based on other things as well. I'm not really all that bothered by it anymore now that I look at it like that. Like I also said in my post, it's KT's money. He can do what he wants with it. If I had the money to do what he's doing, and I decided to do it, I'd select whoever I wanted to select also.
By the way, who is Jimmy Marino?
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Jimmy M. said:I hope my post wasn't misunderstood. Like I said, I really didn't expect to get in because I felt that, out of the thousands of applications they got, they would certainly find 150 players that should have been selected before me. However, when the list came out and I saw quite a few names on there that I know play beneath me, I got irritated - not only irritated for myself, but for a lot of the other guys who should have been selected long before I was considered. But, like I said, I was using my own criteria, namely skill level, to say who "should have been selected". Obviously KT selected people based on other things as well. I'm not really all that bothered by it anymore now that I look at it like that. Like I also said in my post, it's KT's money. He can do what he wants with it. If I had the money to do what he's doing, and I decided to do it, I'd select whoever I wanted to select also.
By the way, who is Jimmy Marino?
That's my point, you don't even know who Jimmy Marino is....
) Sorry, I got your last name wrong obviously. I feel ya' on the selections. I got irritated seeing some of those names as well. I felt as though, if 'they' could be there then I could too. What I do know though is that within a few years, the ones who are there will deserve to be there with NO DEBATE and I guess that is what we want to see as pool fans.With only 50 spots up for grabs it is going to be awfully tough for players to get in no matter how good they are. I hope the Japanese and Taiwanese get a shot at it as well.
Is is Mendoza? (Too lazy to look at your profile).
John
Many of us have walked much the same road. Don't knock this thread just because you were one of the lucky ones. Those left out have a little more interest in seeing that this does not keep happening to us, or others. Imagine if Keith had been left out for whatever reason. Keith is one of the best pool players in the world without doubt and deserves his spot. So does Danny Harriman, among others, myself included, in my not so humble opinion.JAM said:
I am interested in this thread to see how many really good players applied and were not selected so that there will be more interest in organizing all of the players in some real organization allowing us to all have a say in our own future.
The WPBA should ban its players from playing the IPT unless they were all selected according to their rankings. I'm sure they were not, therefore they should not allow players to play in both, as they have banned their players for years from playing in open pro events. Either that, or they should change their name to the WPNBA - Women's Professional Nine-Ball Association.
The UPA should do the same.
unknownpro
unknownpro said:
I understand your point, however this thing has to start some how with some general rules to begin with. I have spoken to some of the players selected for the IPT who are not pros. and in each case I felt they were a great choice because of their ambitions, presentation of good character and they even love pool.
I do not think this is a tour that is going to be driven by who is the best in the beginning. That will happen over the years. I do like the idea that many of the pros that took the initiative to inquire and to complete the form early were many of the ones selected. This alone sets the stage for gathering some of the more responsible and ambitious players who go through life understanding that no one owes them anything, they must earn it each and every day.
I have a female friend who is on the list and she doesn't play the WPBA any more. She is not real high profile, but a very solid 8-ball player and I believe she will give most of the people on the list a very competitive run for the money. She has won numerous womens tournaments thru the years, and pretty much dominated the old Mcdermott tour womens events. Don't under-estimate any of the talent on the list. They got in for a reason. Like they said earlier in this thread, there are only so many spots and let's just hope this is the tour that will finally get our sport the recognition it deserves. Best of luck to all of you who didn't get in this year, I hope you get in next time around. Sam
satman said:I have a female friend who is on the list and she doesn't play the WPBA any more. She is not real high profile, but a very solid 8-ball player and I believe she will give most of the people on the list a very competitive run for the money. She has won numerous womens tournaments thru the years, and pretty much dominated the old Mcdermott tour womens events. Don't under-estimate any of the talent on the list. They got in for a reason. Like they said earlier in this thread, there are only so many spots and let's just hope this is the tour that will finally get our sport the recognition it deserves. Best of luck to all of you who didn't get in this year, I hope you get in next time around. Sam
I'm with you.
I have ambition, present good character, love pool, and have earned my spot by competing for it. I am owed respect by pool players because I have earned it. It is these other people that are asking for something for nothing. Completing a form before the deadline means it is on time, early is meaningless. I am responsible and show up early for all my matches, but I never got 3 games on the wire because of it.pete lafond said:
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unknownpro said:
You have the respect of pool players, though this has nothing to do with it. This is an organization that none of us have the right to demand from it. Even if this were completely run by pool players, again not everyone would get in.
Try to get into a Joss tournament after they have selected the first 128, it will not happen. Even though in this case players did not pay first, don't the first players in have the right to get in. This tour has a lot of diversity in it and that in itself is exciting.
Who knows someone may not be able to participate in the first 150 and you might just get called in. I hope you do. In the meanwhile there are some open tournament that you can participate in.
I understand your frustrations, but I'm sure you will get your chance.
unknownpro said:
Unknownpro, the topic at hand has been debated in numerous other threads. This thread is a repeat of the same subject matter.
I know a few players who I think should have gotten in the IPT. Ronnie Allen is a legend, and in some circles, he is considered the best one-pocket player ever.
Guess what, though, Ronnie Allen doesn't know how to use a computer, and this is true with MANY older players, for whatever reason. They never did develop the skills set to maneuver their way around the Internet, unlike the young'ns of today who learn keyboarding in school as a mandatory class.
I personally sent in Spanish Mike Lebron's application when I saw him last month because he really wanted to be a part of the IPT tour. Though he lacks computer skills, he gets around the tournament trail and heard about the IPT through word of mouth. He took it upon himself to get somebody -- me -- to help him get his application submitted before September 30th. He was a man on a mission, and guess what, he got selected.
I do not know the selection criteria, but being that there were over 3,000 applications sent in by pool players from around the world, only 150 were chosen. I imagine there are another 3,000 players who did not send in an application because, like Ronnie Allen and Spanish Mike, they lacked the computer skills to get theirs in AND/OR maybe were not aware of the IPT untill after the fact.
However, the IPT will launch, and hopefully, by next year, all of the players who still desire to be a part of this tour can qualify by competing in one of the tournaments by paying the entry fee of $1,000.
Now, $1,000 entry fee may seem like a lot of dough, but when you consider the million-dollar purses up for grabs, $200,000 and $350,000 and $500,000 first-place prize monies, the IPT Tour looks mighty inviting. It gives players a reason to be all that they can be, and when players began to have a goal to reach for, winning an IPT event, it may elevate their game to heights beyond their own expectations. The IPT provides HOPE to pool players around the world, and quite frankly, that's truly a good thing.
JAM
unknownpro said:
The 2 largest purses are both OPENS, So I wouldn't be that upset, your only missing 2 tournaments.
The selection is over, it was out of your hands and the IPT felt the start would be good with a diverse field from all over, with many skill levels and all ages etc. You can not change this and complaining or dwelling on the past is not good for you or your state of mind. Some of the best stories in sports are from those that felt they were overlooked and came back to show everyone just what they missed. Don't dwell on what if or what should be, but what will be!
IPT US Open 8-Ball Championship Date: July 21-30, 2006
Prize Money: $2,000,000
1st Prize: $350,000
IPT World 8-Ball Open Championship Date: October 13-29, 2006
Prize Money: $3,000,000
1st Prize: $500,000
If your truly that good, and feel you can compete and beat half or more of the field then enter both opens, beat those players and win a some money and then play in the qualifier for next year.
But if you can't get over the selection then your going to miss out. I would congratulate those selected and concentrate all my energy on showing everyone who I was and what I could do in the Opens. And with the extra few months before the Opens I would practice and play all the time to be ready, the World 8-ball Open is $500,000 for 1st
Competition will be fierce!Good luck buddy
I hope you take my advice and move on and concentrate on the opens, count all things that happen, only happen for your best.
unknownpro said:
Contrary to what you may believe, the world does not owe you anything. If the list actually consisted of best players in the world in order of skill, I am afraid you, as well as many on the players already on the list would not be there anyway, so it is a moot point. Of course this is conjecture on my part so I will ask you, Do you believe you are one of the top 150 players on the planet, top 500 or 1000 or even 5000, be honest? Stop all the jealously and feeling sorry for yourself, if you play so well, get in the open tournaments and let your play speak for itself.
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satman said:I have a female friend who is on the list and she doesn't play the WPBA any more. She is not real high profile, but a very solid 8-ball player and I believe she will give most of the people on the list a very competitive run for the money. She has won numerous womens tournaments thru the years, and pretty much dominated the old Mcdermott tour womens events. Don't under-estimate any of the talent on the list. They got in for a reason. Like they said earlier in this thread, there are only so many spots and let's just hope this is the tour that will finally get our sport the recognition it deserves. Best of luck to all of you who didn't get in this year, I hope you get in next time around. Sam
There are a couple players that are not even shortstops, what about them?
snub snub snubity snub snub, snubo snubu, IPT snubs the good players exept the cuetec users. moral of the story is not take a shower before the game