That's a great video nice shooting ,, perfect example of you can still play in less than perfect size rooms , I have less than that and enjoy it
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Is an 18' x 13' room a no go for a 9' table?
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That's a great video nice shooting ,, perfect example of you can still play in less than perfect size rooms , I have less than that and enjoy it
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I hope you went hmmm because it is BS. With a 9' table and a 13'9"-wide room and a 58" cue and the cue ball on the cushion on the side of the table, you have exactly -0.5 inches for a backstroke if you're shooting straight out from the cushion. That means that you have to switch to a 52" cue.Hmmm....
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Some people are happy with such a situation. I know I'm not.
Balance Rite
went back and found my receipt. i bought a 48" Trouble Shooter from Seybert's.
it got better reviews, and i loved it once i changed the tip.
probably could've gone with a 52", which would've been even better.
at any rate, the balance was Great, and if you see those 4 shots in the video i posted above, it really works well.
it got better reviews, and i loved it once i changed the tip.
probably could've gone with a 52", which would've been even better.
at any rate, the balance was Great, and if you see those 4 shots in the video i posted above, it really works well.
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Thank you, Bob! That video convinced me that it will work. It looks much more spacious than I was imagining. And if I'm grabbing a short cue a handful of times in an hour, big deal.
Bob, at the end of the video at 25:00 you take a shot that has me confused about the room size. The cue ball is on the rail and the shot is straight across the table, which according to my measurements would not have been possible with a 58" cue. You even take a full back stroke. Was your table not centered in the room?
Looks like he grabbed the Trouble Shooter Short Cue. Note the coloring is different than his shooting cue.
Freddie <~~~ loves the Balance Rite
Fred Agnir -- as usual -- has it right; as i mentioned, i grabbed the short cue 4x in that run, including at 25:00.
it's a little confusing because the Trouble Shooter looks cosmetically similar, at this low resolution, to my OB-122, although if you notice, the "butt" (it's a 1-piece cue) is markedly shorter than the butt of the OB-122.
so that run averaged out to once a rack for the short cue. i might use it less today, as i play several gears higher than when the video was done, but i think it's pretty telling that you didn't even notice when i used it -- because it really doesn't affect things much.
the table was centered in the room.
ps if Freddie likes the Balance Rite that much, i'd go with that, because although i also loved the TS, it's for sure you Must change the tip; the one that comes on it is useless.
it's a little confusing because the Trouble Shooter looks cosmetically similar, at this low resolution, to my OB-122, although if you notice, the "butt" (it's a 1-piece cue) is markedly shorter than the butt of the OB-122.
so that run averaged out to once a rack for the short cue. i might use it less today, as i play several gears higher than when the video was done, but i think it's pretty telling that you didn't even notice when i used it -- because it really doesn't affect things much.
the table was centered in the room.
ps if Freddie likes the Balance Rite that much, i'd go with that, because although i also loved the TS, it's for sure you Must change the tip; the one that comes on it is useless.
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First off there was nothing to be embarrassed about that run great shooting , as for grabbing the short cue you went right to it rather than size up or jack up , your very much in control of your game to many times I've stretched to shoot a shot where I should have used a rake and missed the shot
You effectively learned the limits you play within .. there's another guy who played pool in a confined space turned out to be quite a player Allan something can't remember his last name think he won a couple of turneys
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Ah yes. I don't know how I overlooked that. Thanks again.
Here's the table
I had the table set up yesterday. It's a late model Gold Crown 1. I want to thank WigglyBridge and Onestroke for convincing me it could be done. I've played a few racks now, and the dimensions are no problem at all for me!
I bought two 48" Balance Rite cues that I plan to keep under the table on the bridge holders. Surprisingly, I only needed to use one once in about 4 racks. It's true that my room isn't a strict 18' by 13', since there are open spaces at the foot end on both sides leading to the other areas of the basement and to the stairs.
I got Aramith Tournaments and a measle ball. The cloth is new Simonis 860HR, and although the pockets are ultra tight for 14.1 at 4 1/4" corners and 5" sides, I guess it will force me to become a more accurate shooter.
Sadly, the installer (a well-respected mechanic on the forum) showed me how bad the slate is warped and although he tried, he just couldn't make the table perfectly flat. He said it was the worst slate he'd seen in two years, and he does a ton of tables. It rolls off pretty bad on only one side of the table towards the center. So while I try to learn to play on a wonky table, I'm keeping an eye out for a decent set of slates. Recommendation:
Never buy a table that has been disassembled and can't be tested first!
Anyway, here it is:
I had the table set up yesterday. It's a late model Gold Crown 1. I want to thank WigglyBridge and Onestroke for convincing me it could be done. I've played a few racks now, and the dimensions are no problem at all for me!
I bought two 48" Balance Rite cues that I plan to keep under the table on the bridge holders. Surprisingly, I only needed to use one once in about 4 racks. It's true that my room isn't a strict 18' by 13', since there are open spaces at the foot end on both sides leading to the other areas of the basement and to the stairs.
I got Aramith Tournaments and a measle ball. The cloth is new Simonis 860HR, and although the pockets are ultra tight for 14.1 at 4 1/4" corners and 5" sides, I guess it will force me to become a more accurate shooter.
Sadly, the installer (a well-respected mechanic on the forum) showed me how bad the slate is warped and although he tried, he just couldn't make the table perfectly flat. He said it was the worst slate he'd seen in two years, and he does a ton of tables. It rolls off pretty bad on only one side of the table towards the center. So while I try to learn to play on a wonky table, I'm keeping an eye out for a decent set of slates. Recommendation:
Never buy a table that has been disassembled and can't be tested first!
Anyway, here it is:
no no no.
what you do is measure the playing surface 50 by 100 inches.*****
then add from that your 60 inches needed to hit the cue ball. remember it is a little less as you may be jacked up a tiny bit.
your cue only knows the playing surface as that is where it starts not the table dimensions.
this gives you the minimum that you can function with.
then cut a house cue to fit your size for a short cue if needed. you may only need a couple inches off it instead of those crapping tiny cues.
what you do is measure the playing surface 50 by 100 inches.*****
then add from that your 60 inches needed to hit the cue ball. remember it is a little less as you may be jacked up a tiny bit.
your cue only knows the playing surface as that is where it starts not the table dimensions.
this gives you the minimum that you can function with.
then cut a house cue to fit your size for a short cue if needed. you may only need a couple inches off it instead of those crapping tiny cues.
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Yep............
This is exactly correct. A small Diamond table is still a lot of fun to shoot on and you can practice a lot on it.
At one point in my life, I had a crappy 8 foot practice table in a smaller space, and just moved it up against the wall. I had three good sides to shoot from, and learned a little about banking and kicking.
But if you want to be able to actually play real games, you need to be able to easily get all around the table, and the smaller table in the space would be much more useful and enjoyable as a practice/play table than a larger table in the space.
I appreciate that what you are all suggesting is the ideal, but if you keep the cue ball off of the rails it's really no issue. I'm finding that to be the case. I'd much rather have a 9' table in this room and occasionally have to reach for a short cue than play a small-table game. As long as the shot isn't straight across the table along with the cue ball not being near or on the rail, I'm finding no reason to grab a short cue in my room. Even when inspecting the table layout, I don't feel constrained. I can stand back sufficiently and walk into shots.
Dr. Dave has a lot of free information all linked up for easy access. It's my "GO TO" when I want an answer to a pool question or dilemma.
Since I posted late, the link might not be useful. But here goes;
http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/table.html#size
Dave (Not that one.)
Since I posted late, the link might not be useful. But here goes;
http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/table.html#size
Dave (Not that one.)
I placed my 8' table a bit too close to one wall in my room. It only affects certain shots. I have modified a short cue with additional weight on the butt and it feels like a regular cue.
Every now and then someone will complain. My standard reply is that you use different clubs in golf and you get to do the same in my pool room.
I've been waffling about finishing a 7' table I have which would solve the problem. Maybe this weekend. (I've been saying that since last March)
Every now and then someone will complain. My standard reply is that you use different clubs in golf and you get to do the same in my pool room.
I've been waffling about finishing a 7' table I have which would solve the problem. Maybe this weekend. (I've been saying that since last March)
My room is 15' 9" x15'3" and I have a 7 foot diamond which is actually 7' 10" long in it and have two corners that I need to use a shorty cue on due to the direction I placed the table. I could not have fit a 9 foot in there and been able to get into the room from the house without having an issue. You may want to keep in mind most people like to have some sort of furniture like chairs.