Is It Asking Too Much?
- Thread starter ChrisinNC
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I learned the term as "dead soldiers" for empty beer bottles. Might make their day?
*i always throw my trash in the can* if there is one nearby. im not hauling it across the room because the owner doesnt want to empty five cans himself when full. or i leave it on the side table if that was dirty when i got there. i expect clean equipment or environment if i am going to return clean equipment.
as for tipping people some jobs are tipping jobs and some arent. many expect tips for not doing a personal service. and to me that is wrong.
i do tip about 30% in a restaurant if good service.
if the t.d. isnt getting paid thats his choice for not negotiating it or not having a green fee to cover his pay. which i believe is appropriate.
or the bar pays him for bringing in all those people that wouldnt be there if it wasnt for him running the tournament.
and verbal appreciation is always in order for whomever does a good job at what they do.
as for tipping people some jobs are tipping jobs and some arent. many expect tips for not doing a personal service. and to me that is wrong.
i do tip about 30% in a restaurant if good service.
if the t.d. isnt getting paid thats his choice for not negotiating it or not having a green fee to cover his pay. which i believe is appropriate.
or the bar pays him for bringing in all those people that wouldnt be there if it wasnt for him running the tournament.
and verbal appreciation is always in order for whomever does a good job at what they do.
Coos Cues
Coos Cues
Actually it turned out that they seemed to prefer "dead white racist bastards"
I don't know why an owner would expect a patron to pay for a service and then perform it themselves (i.e. cleaning up after themselves). That cost is (or should be) factored in to the price of goods. It is amazing the corporate giants have social engineered the minds of the public to come to them (i.e. stand in line), get your own drink, pick-up and deliver a crappy, unhealthy product to the table they seat themselves at and then bus their own table at the end (thank you for not throwing the red plastic basket in the waste). All while paying quite high prices in most situations. I choose to always have a waitress and a sit down meal if the situation allows. Yes, I usually pay out of pocket more, but the value and experience is almost always superior. Those who choose to give free labor to these pricks only screw it up for everyone. Oh yeah, on top of all that... the nose picking min wage ass wipe thinks he deserves 2-3 times min wage and tips on top of that. Who the fuck are the fools here?
I'll address your first point, I'm not sure if it's asking too much, but people not having general common courtesy with cleaning up after themselves drives me crazy. I have a 2 and 4 year old and both of them know where the garbage is in our kitchen. Obviously, expectations are low for my youngest and not very high for my oldest, but fortunately he takes after his brother somewhat. For my 4 year old, he at least puts his plate next to our kitchen sink when he's done eating and sometimes dumps what's left in the trash prior. No there's no corporal punishment or anything like that if he doesn't lol, it's just important to me to try to start them out with some basic courtesy and he's more than capable of walking 15' and doing it prior to getting back to normal fun activities like making a mess with his toys all over our house...See that's another thing though, at the end of the day, the kids also help my wife and I pick up all their toys. It took a little bit, but we all have a basic understanding. Now will they continue this as adults? Who the hell knows, but they are on the right path.
I don't care if I'm sitting at subway eating a sandwich, eating at a table at a pool hall, or a table in a park with no one around, if I make a mess or set anything on the table, I'm not leaving it there. Now if I can't spot a trash can or quickly find one, that's a little different. I might leave it at the table under the assumption that it's preferred I do so.
Another thing slightly off topic, I like to fish, both open and hard water. It doesn't matter if it's on the ice, shore, or directly in the water, many fisherman are the worst with leaving their crap everywhere. I've picked up so much of their garbage over the years. Drives me nuts too.
So yes, I can see why you would be annoyed at a minimum for constantly having to clean up after adults. I'm not entirely sure you can expect things to change though.
I don't care if I'm sitting at subway eating a sandwich, eating at a table at a pool hall, or a table in a park with no one around, if I make a mess or set anything on the table, I'm not leaving it there. Now if I can't spot a trash can or quickly find one, that's a little different. I might leave it at the table under the assumption that it's preferred I do so.
Another thing slightly off topic, I like to fish, both open and hard water. It doesn't matter if it's on the ice, shore, or directly in the water, many fisherman are the worst with leaving their crap everywhere. I've picked up so much of their garbage over the years. Drives me nuts too.
So yes, I can see why you would be annoyed at a minimum for constantly having to clean up after adults. I'm not entirely sure you can expect things to change though.
I pretty much always tip the directors that are running things transparently. Those types are getting harder to find unless they are room owners. A quick math check can point out that the "director" is making out better than the winner on many of the smaller weekly deals and often times playing too. I don't really play for the dough so I don't care too much but I'm not tipping anyone that's taking their cut off the top.
25 a person X 20 players
5 greens fess = house only gets a hundred.
100 for 1st
60 for 2nd
30 for 3rd
Nice side gig if you can get away with it.
Well said.
In my experience, it never hurts to ask.
A brief announcement at the start, like: if you have a good tournament experience don't forget to thank the TD at the end, and so on and so forth, can work wonders. Light bulbs go on and often, after doing this for a few events, the desired behavior becomes the accepted norm.
Anywhos, it can't hurt to try. Of course if you're dealing with a true hoard of barbarians, nothing is going to help.
Lou Figueroa
When I was younger I don't think I ever really thanked the TD. I would tip the houseman for holding the stake money, and staying open for us past closing when in matchups.
Now that I'm older, and play more tournaments than gambling, I make it a point to thank the TD for running the event smoothly. They always really appreciate hearing it.
I do the same for the table mechanic. I think those guys probably hear nothing but "this table plays like garbage".
Now that I'm older, and play more tournaments than gambling, I make it a point to thank the TD for running the event smoothly. They always really appreciate hearing it.
I do the same for the table mechanic. I think those guys probably hear nothing but "this table plays like garbage".
And then there was the local TD who would "forget" to tell the people who finished in third and fourth in the weekly 9-ball that they had money coming.
leaving uneaten food around for six hours?
i throw that away for health reasons,
and because it’s rude and mean and lazy
so you paid for the food, great
doesn’t mean you can leave garbage
around in everybody’s way
I was going to mention that in your other tournament thread but it was too far off subject. I have come to the conclusion that most pool players must be the biggest slobs in the world. Our bigger tournaments usually have a banquet table behind each pool table. Every time we walk up to a new table the banquet table is covered with plastic cups, beer bottles, soda cans, food wrappers etc., even if the garbage can is right behind them!!! I will never understand why people cant pick up their garbage and throw it in the trash can. I will admit that I feel for having to clean up after pool players.
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
In the hall I frequent the house cues are behind the counter and you have to leave an id when you grab a house cue. The servers clean up the garbage. Of course I always spend while I’m there. If somebody’s getting water all night and doesn’t clean up or tip that’s kind of bullshit.
if you are seeing food sitting around for hours it is the slob that left it there.
but what about the house person that didnt take the time to clean it up and you have a filthy table to deal with.
who is more wrong.
if the house man gives you a dirty pool table or side table or chair its all on them. few rooms ive played in or presently play in does the houseman go check the table and surrounding area after the last player left or before he gives that table out.
this is what happens in most pool rooms with absentee owners and minimum wage workers who have no vested interest in the place.
but what about the house person that didnt take the time to clean it up and you have a filthy table to deal with.
who is more wrong.
if the house man gives you a dirty pool table or side table or chair its all on them. few rooms ive played in or presently play in does the houseman go check the table and surrounding area after the last player left or before he gives that table out.
this is what happens in most pool rooms with absentee owners and minimum wage workers who have no vested interest in the place.
Goes for any business… owner/responsible manager is not there the business goes away.