Is it dishonest?
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No. This is there mistake.
It is a show of being a real gentleman and shows you know you can win even giving them a bit of a helping hand, but in a competition part of the game is keeping track of what balls you are aiming for, if you make a mistake it costed you that ball.
It is a show of being a real gentleman and shows you know you can win even giving them a bit of a helping hand, but in a competition part of the game is keeping track of what balls you are aiming for, if you make a mistake it costed you that ball.
If its a small tournament of say 50.00 entry fee or less I will tell my opponent. I have never played in a professional tournament (no where good enough) but at that level you get no help!
I play league in the APA and its consider good sportsmanship to tell your opponent and I always do. I have also offered a re-rack if I accidently gave my opponent a slug rack and I have lost a match or two because of it.
I play league in the APA and its consider good sportsmanship to tell your opponent and I always do. I have also offered a re-rack if I accidently gave my opponent a slug rack and I have lost a match or two because of it.
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You are not obligated to tell them, but this is a gentleman's game. Doesn't matter what the stakes are. If your morale compass is pointing you to say something, then say something. Don't sell your dignity out for a few of dollars. What goes around comes around.
Voodoo Daddy
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Always tell your opponent, there are certain unwritten rules to follow. Morals and Ethics aside...its the right thing to do!!
I personally have been on both sides of this,and have never felt like my opponent is obligated to make sure that I'm paying attention.If competing, and someone calls this on me,it sucks,but it is less likely that this will happen to me again.Just my take...
rep to you. well said!
Its not my job, man.
Oh, if only this were true. I agree that at least it USED to be a gentleman's game. And well it still should be.
But whenever this subject comes up I think of that display that Earl put on in a televised tournament. He clearly committed a foul. Everyone saw it - the attendees, the opposing player, the TV commentators and the viewing audience. Everyone that is, except the ref, who was standing behind Strickland and his view was blocked. Even Earl didn't deny it but insisted that since the ref didn't see it he cannot call it and since there is a ref, if there is no call there is no foul and he was allowed to continue to shoot. Fortunately he lost the match anyway.
This kind of instance does not do well for the game.
Happened to me last saturday at our weekly 9 ball tourney. My opponent pointed out that I was lining up for the wrong ball. Apparently I didn't watch enuff Sesame St. when I was younger and forgot how to count. I thanked him and said that was very sportsmanlike.
If it happened to me personally if he was a friend , I would definatly tell them, If they were just a opponent it would have to comedown to how the person treated me as far in the game. If they came off very cocky and airigant, no I would not say nothing, but if they seemed to be a good person yes I would tell them ,,jmo.<<ED
I have been in this situation before.
It was in a ACS tourney I was in this past may. I was stripes, he was solids, I had all my stripes off the table, he had 1 solid left, it was a race to 7, I was 6 he was 3, he took a time out to use the rest room, when he came back, he got down to shoot the 8ball. I couldnt say something fast enough cause I had a bouth full of water and I threw my towel at his back. He turned around pissed as you could get. I told him he was solids and had 1 ball left to shoot......he called me a smartass. he won that game, but I cam back to run the last rack to win the set.....I told him I wasnt trying to be a smartass, I just didnt want him to foul by shooting the wrong ball and giving me ball in hand on the 8....he stated he wouldnt have said anything to me..I just told him I would have felt bad if I had beaten him with me having BIH on the 8.....
I would even do it in a pro tourney...I just think its the right thing to do...
It was in a ACS tourney I was in this past may. I was stripes, he was solids, I had all my stripes off the table, he had 1 solid left, it was a race to 7, I was 6 he was 3, he took a time out to use the rest room, when he came back, he got down to shoot the 8ball. I couldnt say something fast enough cause I had a bouth full of water and I threw my towel at his back. He turned around pissed as you could get. I told him he was solids and had 1 ball left to shoot......he called me a smartass. he won that game, but I cam back to run the last rack to win the set.....I told him I wasnt trying to be a smartass, I just didnt want him to foul by shooting the wrong ball and giving me ball in hand on the 8....he stated he wouldnt have said anything to me..I just told him I would have felt bad if I had beaten him with me having BIH on the 8.....
I would even do it in a pro tourney...I just think its the right thing to do...
I don't remember this ever happening to me but if my opponent is ever kind enough to tell me when I am about to foul, I think I will do one of two things:
If I think that I reasonably might have ended up noticing by myself, I would simply thank him for the generous display of sportsmanship, and continue my turn.
On the other hand, if I'm sure that I wouldn't have noticed, I would also thank him, but then I would take an intentional foul to give him ball in hand.
I simply wouldn't feel right if I were to beat my opponent as a result of him coaching me out of my own careless mistakes. :shrug:
If I think that I reasonably might have ended up noticing by myself, I would simply thank him for the generous display of sportsmanship, and continue my turn.
On the other hand, if I'm sure that I wouldn't have noticed, I would also thank him, but then I would take an intentional foul to give him ball in hand.
I simply wouldn't feel right if I were to beat my opponent as a result of him coaching me out of my own careless mistakes. :shrug:
When you play Chess, is it unethical not to tell your opponent his move will land him in checkmate?
The Answer is no, if you want to tell go ahead. Ive told people many times. But the game is about concentration, if you slack for a second you deserve to be loose.
ive come upon this situation several times over the years, i always tell them, but i think its funny when your opponent clearly see's your shooting the wrong ball then acts shocked! when you do it and is like i would have told you i didn't see it. It's like you either tell them or you don't, don't pretend to be ethical then put on an act.
unbelievable
2 days on the best pool forum in the US and no one called this correctly!
The correct answer is that you say nothing. The reason why is that if it was a pro pool match with a referee, the refs job is to only call fouls and good hits. The ref would NOT warn the player if they were about to shoot the wrong ball. In a non refereed match the player sitting plays the role of the ref, and therefor should not tell the opponent which ball to shoot. This isn't dishonest. Part of the game is being in the moment and thinking clearly.
2 days on the best pool forum in the US and no one called this correctly!
The correct answer is that you say nothing. The reason why is that if it was a pro pool match with a referee, the refs job is to only call fouls and good hits. The ref would NOT warn the player if they were about to shoot the wrong ball. In a non refereed match the player sitting plays the role of the ref, and therefor should not tell the opponent which ball to shoot. This isn't dishonest. Part of the game is being in the moment and thinking clearly.