Pushout said:
I have a question, what would shooting 65 equate to in a run of pool? I agree with Pushout that running 125 balls is TOUGH. I do not think I could ever do that, but I am fairly confident that shooting a 65 is within my golf ability.
Is pool or golf tougher??
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I have a question, what would shooting 65 equate to in a run of pool? I agree with Pushout that running 125 balls is TOUGH. I do not think I could ever do that, but I am fairly confident that shooting a 65 is within my golf ability.
metallicane said:
I think it is opposite.....I think that I am phisically limited in Golf than in Pool.....Which is part of the reason I gave up pursuing competive Golf....Arizona is very popular for Golf Professionals and or Aspiring Players working on thier game for a future on a mini tour or the PGA.
I played in section events and on a majority of the longer courses and even the medium length courses, I felt like I was almost spotting quite a few players 3-4 strokes before we ever teed off.
I hit the ball (with roll) right around 300 yards off the tee...That is routinly about 25-50 yards short of the better players.....At some point you run into physical limitations in Golf...One of the reasons Tiger is so hard to beat is because of his length off the tee and with his irons...Sure he works out etc. etc...but he is also 6-2 with "perfect" technique. I could equal his "technique" but I would physically be at a disadvantage due to size (at 5-9)
Sure there is some physical limitations in pool...you need to be tall enough to properly bride over the rail (reach shots) and you need relativly good eye sight..and a degree of eye hand coordination.... The rest is technique....
Shooting 64 vs 74 on a golf course is a HUGE difference.....Running 25 vs 125 is also a HUGE difference.
However...if you have the technique to run 25 you can refine your technique to run 125...(it is up to you)........Shooting a 64 vs a 74 in Golf has more than technique involved to pull it off.
It depends on what I am playing at the time.
hi
you know there both super hard to play world class.but if p[ool is so much easier than why doesnt everbody on here run 100 at 14.1 ,4-5 racks of nineball.for the record if you go on the golf sites people that play golf everyday and some pool say pool is harder.you know why cause there good at golf and bad at pool.boo weekley off the pga tour is friends with me.weve played pool and he says golf is easier and pool is impossible to play like me.thats because hes bad at pool. shooting 65 is not harder than say running 300 at 14.1 and for the record ive done both more than a few times,.shot 62 twice,63 twice and 100 more rounds in my life under 70 with many witnesses on a course that was normal difficult from 62-6600 yards. i play golf part time and frankly dont find it any harder than pool to be good at.only more expensive.and for all the people that are going to say john why dont you give up pool and play golf.believe me if i could i would.ive played 20 something rounds with boo weekley and he can match my lowest scores.the difference is he can do it from 7300 yards,under pressure,fast greens ,tough pins,thick rough and did i mention walking no cart lol..
you know there both super hard to play world class.but if p[ool is so much easier than why doesnt everbody on here run 100 at 14.1 ,4-5 racks of nineball.for the record if you go on the golf sites people that play golf everyday and some pool say pool is harder.you know why cause there good at golf and bad at pool.boo weekley off the pga tour is friends with me.weve played pool and he says golf is easier and pool is impossible to play like me.thats because hes bad at pool. shooting 65 is not harder than say running 300 at 14.1 and for the record ive done both more than a few times,.shot 62 twice,63 twice and 100 more rounds in my life under 70 with many witnesses on a course that was normal difficult from 62-6600 yards. i play golf part time and frankly dont find it any harder than pool to be good at.only more expensive.and for all the people that are going to say john why dont you give up pool and play golf.believe me if i could i would.ive played 20 something rounds with boo weekley and he can match my lowest scores.the difference is he can do it from 7300 yards,under pressure,fast greens ,tough pins,thick rough and did i mention walking no cart lol..
wrong question
Which is tougher is just to vauge a question. People are arguing about completely different question. Let's list the questions being answered:
Which game is more difficult to execute at the highest lever? (vote goes to golf)
Which game is more difficult to make a living at? (pool)
Which game is more difficult to dominate? I find this the most interesting question, and have to go with pool.
In a pro golf tournament everyone gets to play for days and the cumulative score wins. In pool it is short sets, double elimination. In golf if a player gets hot for three holes then dogs his brains out it would never affect anyone else. In pool a shortstop can beat a world champ then go two and out and wreck the other guys tournament. In golf it is all about long term consistancy. In pool there is so much luck in the short term that upsets are commonplace. Finally, in golf you always get to the green. In pool you never know when your last shot is.
Imagine this: Suppose golf tournaments were now double elimation tournaments. The matches would be a race to 5 par holes. The players would flip for first attempt. He would then attempt to shoot a par on the first hole. If successful he would score 1 game and go on to attempt par on the second hole. If he parred 5 holes in a row then he 'ran out the set' and the other guy doesn't get to shoot.
Now suppose pool consisted of four days of each player receiving equal starting opportunities, and the most consistent player takes the title. Perhaps predetermined 9 ball racks that everyone could attempt with ball in hand. Best run out % after 4 days wins. Much harder for a shortstop to outrun the nuts.
Get my drift?
Which is tougher is just to vauge a question. People are arguing about completely different question. Let's list the questions being answered:
Which game is more difficult to execute at the highest lever? (vote goes to golf)
Which game is more difficult to make a living at? (pool)
Which game is more difficult to dominate? I find this the most interesting question, and have to go with pool.
In a pro golf tournament everyone gets to play for days and the cumulative score wins. In pool it is short sets, double elimination. In golf if a player gets hot for three holes then dogs his brains out it would never affect anyone else. In pool a shortstop can beat a world champ then go two and out and wreck the other guys tournament. In golf it is all about long term consistancy. In pool there is so much luck in the short term that upsets are commonplace. Finally, in golf you always get to the green. In pool you never know when your last shot is.
Imagine this: Suppose golf tournaments were now double elimation tournaments. The matches would be a race to 5 par holes. The players would flip for first attempt. He would then attempt to shoot a par on the first hole. If successful he would score 1 game and go on to attempt par on the second hole. If he parred 5 holes in a row then he 'ran out the set' and the other guy doesn't get to shoot.
Now suppose pool consisted of four days of each player receiving equal starting opportunities, and the most consistent player takes the title. Perhaps predetermined 9 ball racks that everyone could attempt with ball in hand. Best run out % after 4 days wins. Much harder for a shortstop to outrun the nuts.
Get my drift?
memikey said:That's fine and perfectly understandable Terry, but when followed by this....
........you will appreciate it invites a question.....given the first quote and given that your view/enjoyment of golf may have considerably changed during your transformation into someone who is equally skilled at them both, how could you possibly know that for sure you would still choose the pool option 100% of the time
This "which is harder?" question has been flogged to death on here in the last month alone and there is no definitive answer because there are no definitive terms of reference. They are very different and are both superb games in their own right, let's all just enjoy what we enjoy, be it one, the other or both
Mike,
You make a good point in the question you posed....I guess it would be possible to fall in love with something if you were devoted to trying to reach your personal best at it. In other words, without ever trying it, how would I know? And if I did, I may like it a lot, right?
That makes a lot of sense to me because over the years I tried to tell lots of people how great pool is but they say it's boring without ever have played.
I whole heartedly agree with your last sentence as well.
9 ball.....hill hill.Guy breaks and sinks the 9 ball for the win.......I can't seem to remember a golf tournament when a golfer was 175 yards from the pin and shanks it into the crowd hitting a spectator in the head,ball then rolls on the green into the hole for the win.
senor said:
senor,
I was trying to be funny, but my wife says that lots of times, I'm the only one who thinks I'm funny....
Being serious, I have no idea who the first two guys you named are. Never heard their names. The last guy I'm sure is a golfer because I've watched golf for a little bit here and there. It looks like a real peaceful game and it has nicer background than a poolroom does.
Senor and anyone else who was disappointed in my sardonic comments about a sport that you love, I apologize for whacking golf. If someone bashed pool, I would chime in also, so I know where you're coming from.
Peace and I'm going to back out of the clubhouse now. I get the impression that "my kind" are not wanted there!
Hey Terry - there is no problem with trying to be funny - you just have to figure out a way for it to actually be funny sometimesTerry Ardeno said:senor,
I was trying to be funny, but my wife says that lots of times, I'm the only one who thinks I'm funny....
Being serious, I have no idea who the first two guys you named are. Never heard their names. The last guy I'm sure is a golfer because I've watched golf for a little bit here and there. It looks like a real peaceful game and it has nicer background than a poolroom does.
Senor and anyone else who was disappointed in my sardonic comments about a sport that you love, I apologize for whacking golf. If someone bashed pool, I would chime in also, so I know where you're coming from.
Peace and I'm going to back out of the clubhouse now. I get the impression that "my kind" are not wanted there!
BVal
Your welcome anytime, Terry.For $20 a skin.Terry Ardeno said:senor,
I was trying to be funny, but my wife says that lots of times, I'm the only one who thinks I'm funny....
Being serious, I have no idea who the first two guys you named are. Never heard their names. The last guy I'm sure is a golfer because I've watched golf for a little bit here and there. It looks like a real peaceful game and it has nicer background than a poolroom does.
Senor and anyone else who was disappointed in my sardonic comments about a sport that you love, I apologize for whacking golf. If someone bashed pool, I would chime in also, so I know where you're coming from.
Peace and I'm going to back out of the clubhouse now. I get the impression that "my kind" are not wanted there!
jimmy-leggs said:9 ball.....hill hill.Guy breaks and sinks the 9 ball for the win.......I can't seem to remember a golf tournament when a golfer was 175 yards from the pin and shanks it into the crowd hitting a spectator in the head,ball then rolls on the green into the hole for the win.
I'm not lurking (I said I was leaving) but I, uh, I forgot my towel and had to come back in here for a minute.
Jimmy, NOW somebody is saying that in golf, a guy shanks someone in the crowd and hits someone else in the head with a golf ball! Maybe there are some tough guys in golf.
If you keep posting like that, you're going to draw in guys like JohnnyT
I might even be tempted to go to WalMart & get myself a set of clubs.
Ok, ok...I'm leaving....
Brady, Jimmy, come on guys. I already stirred the pot here in this thread. Let's not hijack it any more than it is already.
Please, settle down now. (That's what Michaela Tabb says in pool, what do they say in golfdom?)
Sssshhhhhh!
Please, settle down now. (That's what Michaela Tabb says in pool, what do they say in golfdom?)
Sssshhhhhh!
They scream "IN THE HOLE".Terry Ardeno said:Brady, Jimmy, come on guys. I already stirred the pot here in this thread. Let's not hijack it any more than it is already.
Please, settle down now. (That's what Michaela Tabb says in pool, what do they say in golfdom?)
Sssshhhhhh!
Walmart????You could probbly get a full set of Top-Flite's including bag for $99.
I have Callaway X series=$4,000 complete set.
Double skins for birdies and TRIPLE for EAGLES.BRKNRUN said:Heck with that!!! I was thinking more like $20 two downers
(unless you assuming carry overs)
BRKNRUN said:
Shooting 64 rather than 74 has more to do with putting. If you are shooting 74 you can shoot 64 if some putts fall. And as John Schmidt said, you need to play the right tees.
john schmidt said:
Obviously your are considered well above average in both sports...
Its your last point that you make that you should consider....
You are no doubt world class at pool and can run 100s with your eyes closed... At the same time Boo is world class and can shoot the 65s on a short course with his eyes closed.
The difference is that he can also do it on standard "tour length" courses.
when you compair your "world class" pool abilities to "standard" golf abilities...its not quite a fair assesment.
In my opinion...both require mad skills when you are compairing 62s on a tour length (and set up) course compaired to a world class 14:1 player that can run 200 plus.
I tend to throw out the middle spectrum of comparison and look at the complete novice level and the pro quality level.
Novice - I can teach someone to pocket a pool ball much quicker than I can teach most to get a golf ball airborn.
Pro - Here it is a combination of "gods gift" and "dedication" to that particular sport but I still think that Golf requires a more demanding "physical" gift than does pool....For that reason is a harder sport.
Mentally (at the Pro level) I would think they are equal
What is more fun to play? If you throw out the weather factor...I think they are equal here as well.
Sorry for hi-jackingTerry Ardeno said:Brady, Jimmy, come on guys. I already stirred the pot here in this thread. Let's not hijack it any more than it is already.
Please, settle down now. (That's what Michaela Tabb says in pool, what do they say in golfdom?)
Sssshhhhhh!
Back on topic. I think both of them are very tough in different ways.
BVal
metallicane said:
Well...frankly I feel like I am cheating if I did not play the back tees... and typically (when I played. and especially on older "shorter" courses) we used the (1 foot in the rough tee box)...meaning very back of the tee box....These days I don't care cause I typically don't even pick up a club unless it is a special occaision....but for a pro quality player...they are going to score "way" better from the up tees...(they will know how to take advantage of the additonal scoring opportunities that might not be available from tees further back.
Sure putting has something to do with it...(and so does the greens your putting on..not just speed wise but quality) but when you are consistenly hitting 8 iron into a green from 150 vs a 6 iron from 170 you should be getting much better "scoring" chances.
Also When jokers that hit the ball 350 off the tee have irons into a par 5 vs a wood...they should be getting more scoring chances....
Sure they have to drop puts, but I am going to make many more 8-10 footers than I will 15-20 footers.....Just like I would make many more easy pool shots vs difficult shots.