Is Shane the best American ever at both

btw, i know its not race to 100 winnerbreak but in case some of you have already forgotten, a little reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XpqRlQQEwk

Yep. Those boys from Qatar are really taking over the pool world.


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lol. Shane made more in one tournament this year than both of them combined have made their entire careers.
 
lol. Shane made more in one tournament this year than both of them combined have made their entire careers.

uiuiui u dont get it eh? its like talking to a wall........
so,u want to tell me that the participation of SVB and MD made the US open field tougher than the world 9b field? didnt they both play in quatar? didnt we talk about those countless b-players in the US open who would get whopped badly by those you posted above? do you know those middle east guys practise like crazy with phillipino coaches? seriously, even the kuwait open had probably a deeper field than the US open and not to talk about the china open, theres no easy meat there, my not so sharp friend!
 
U.S. Open has 10-20 Filipinos that could win it. World 9 ball only allows like 4-5 that's why they are harder. Alex Pagulayan, said this and Dennis Orcollo and Roberto Gomez both said they qualifiers might be harder than the main event. I agree I think Americans are way behind Europe and Asia. But I think are top 5 here are really really close in skill level with the top Europeans. Asians well they are too good. Europe just has I would say 20 guys that could compete with our top 5.

Anyway U.S. Opens has 10-20 Filipinos that could finish high at U.S. Open, almost every top Euro is in, very descent American player (90 percent or more), a lot of the best Taiwanese, and Chinese except Wu, by the way I think he is prolly best player in the world.

World 9 Ball, only has 4-5 top players from each country and a lot of times it's not even that countries best player. I would much rather win the U.S. Open 9 ball than the World 9 Ball.. Maybe 15 years ago when Mathroom ran the World 9 ball, I would say maybe then but even still U.S. Open has the toughest field in the world for 9 ball.
 
uiuiui u dont get it eh? its like talking to a wall........
so,u want to tell me that the participation of SVB and MD made the US open field tougher than the world 9b field? didnt they both play in quatar? didnt we talk about those countless b-players in the US open who would get whopped badly by those you posted above? do you know those middle east guys practise like crazy with phillipino coaches? seriously, even the kuwait open had probably a deeper field than the US open and not to talk about the china open, theres no easy meat there, my not so sharp friend!

Whatever you say, champ.
 
U.S. Open has 10-20 Filipinos that could win it. World 9 ball only allows like 4-5 that's why they are harder. Alex Pagulayan, said this and Dennis Orcollo and Roberto Gomez both said they qualifiers might be harder than the main event. I agree I think Americans are way behind Europe and Asia. But I think are top 5 here are really really close in skill level with the top Europeans. Asians well they are too good. Europe just has I would say 20 guys that could compete with our top 5.

Anyway U.S. Opens has 10-20 Filipinos that could finish high at U.S. Open, almost every top Euro is in, very descent American player (90 percent or more), a lot of the best Taiwanese, and Chinese except Wu, by the way I think he is prolly best player in the world.

World 9 Ball, only has 4-5 top players from each country and a lot of times it's not even that countries best player. I would much rather win the U.S. Open 9 ball than the World 9 Ball.. Maybe 15 years ago when Mathroom ran the World 9 ball, I would say maybe then but even still U.S. Open has the toughest field in the world for 9 ball.

thats maybe a point..... they surely make the field deeper, only that filipinos dont win a thing atm (there was even a thread about it not long ago) and then theres still those 20-30 b-entries to the US open, which you wont find in any other worldfield + a absent wu! i dont buy it.......... but i understand ofc that your hometourney is the most important for you!
 
U.S. Open has 10-20 Filipinos that could win it. World 9 ball only allows like 4-5 that's why they are harder. ...

The 2016 WPA World 9-Ball Championship had 13 Filipinos in the field of 128 (after the qualifiers) -- Biado, Chua, Corteza, De Luna, Felicilda, Gabica, Gallego, Gomez, Ignacio, Kiamco, Orcollo, Pagulayan, and Sotero.

The 2016 US Open 9-Ball Championship had 8 Filipinos in the field of 149: Biado, Centeno, Corteza, Gallego, Kiamco, Lining, Orcollo, and Pagulayan.

[The counts are based on looking at the brackets for each event. Note that Pagulayan was representing Canada and Gabica and Felicilda were representing Qatar.]

[[Obviously, these numbers vary from year to year.]]
 
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The 2016 WPA World 9-Ball Championship had 13 Filipinos in the field of 128 (after the qualifiers) -- Biado, Chua, Corteza, De Luna, Felicilda, Gabica, Gallego, Gomez, Ignacio, Kiamco, Orcollo, Pagulayan, and Sotero.

The 2016 US Open 9-Ball Championship had 8 Filipinos in the field of 149: Biado, Centeno, Corteza, Gallego, Kiamco, Lining, Orcollo, and Pagulayan.

[The counts are based on looking at the brackets for each event. Note that Pagulayan was representing Canada and Gabica and Felicilda were representing Qatar.]

[[Obviously, these numbers vary from year to year.]]

ohhh thx, i was too lazy to check that! that means in words of alex and dennis that the world 9b is almost twice as hard when there are almost double the filipinos in it lol
guess mr bergmann needs to do a first hand realitycheck!
 
U.S. Open has 10-20 Filipinos that could win it. World 9 ball only allows like 4-5 that's why they are harder. Alex Pagulayan, said this and Dennis Orcollo and Roberto Gomez both said they qualifiers might be harder than the main event. I agree I think Americans are way behind Europe and Asia. But I think are top 5 here are really really close in skill level with the top Europeans. Asians well they are too good. Europe just has I would say 20 guys that could compete with our top 5.

Anyway U.S. Opens has 10-20 Filipinos that could finish high at U.S. Open, almost every top Euro is in, very descent American player (90 percent or more), a lot of the best Taiwanese, and Chinese except Wu, by the way I think he is prolly best player in the world.

World 9 Ball, only has 4-5 top players from each country and a lot of times it's not even that countries best player. I would much rather win the U.S. Open 9 ball than the World 9 Ball.. Maybe 15 years ago when Mathroom ran the World 9 ball, I would say maybe then but even still U.S. Open has the toughest field in the world for 9 ball.

LOL

So much crap in this post, I wouldn't know where to begin with.



The 2016 WPA World 9-Ball Championship had 13 Filipinos in the field of 128 (after the qualifiers) -- Biado, Chua, Corteza, De Luna, Felicilda, Gabica, Gallego, Gomez, Ignacio, Kiamco, Orcollo, Pagulayan, and Sotero.

The 2016 US Open 9-Ball Championship had 8 Filipinos in the field of 149: Biado, Centeno, Corteza, Gallego, Kiamco, Lining, Orcollo, and Pagulayan.

[The counts are based on looking at the brackets for each event. Note that Pagulayan was representing Canada and Gabica and Felicilda were representing Qatar.]

[[Obviously, these numbers vary from year to year.]]

Don't be a party pooper AtLarge and let Bergman ridicule himself some more.
 
The 2016 WPA World 9-Ball Championship had 13 Filipinos in the field of 128 (after the qualifiers) -- Biado, Chua, Corteza, De Luna, Felicilda, Gabica, Gallego, Gomez, Ignacio, Kiamco, Orcollo, Pagulayan, and Sotero.

The 2016 US Open 9-Ball Championship had 8 Filipinos in the field of 149: Biado, Centeno, Corteza, Gallego, Kiamco, Lining, Orcollo, and Pagulayan.

Solid reality right there. Not only did the world event have more Filipinos, with Chua and Ignacio in the Worlds the Filipino contingent was clearly stronger in the Worlds.

Sorry Justin but you cannot just skip playing on the big stage and then pretend your little stage is every bit as tough...
 
Why all the focus on the Filipinos?

Sure they are better as a whole than the Americans. But what, worth noting, have they won in recent times?

The biggest events outside the US are being won by Tawainese, Chinese, and the Euros. They had a pretty good showing at the US Open, and I think that is a much more accurate representation of the field's strength.
 
76 US player took part in the US open, guess thats proof enough that the USopen field is nowhere near the world 9 ball or china open! + wu was missing and LESS filipinos than in qatar!
 
76 US player took part in the US open, guess thats proof enough that the USopen field is nowhere near the world 9 ball or china open! + wu was missing and LESS filipinos than in qatar!

Plenty of dead money in the W9B as well.

Why don't you list who the top 20players in the world are and what major events they've won in the last 3 years.

Then we'll see which players participated in each event.
 
Plenty of dead money in the W9B as well.

Why don't you list who the top 20players in the world are and what major events they've won in the last 3 years.

Then we'll see which players participated in each event.

top 20 based on what? since were talking about majors we take the WPA rankings ofc (that works as excact as fargo lol)
and as you never will get it you can do the research!
 
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Shane best pool player in US - perhaps!

Best ever US playe - No, It should be Earl in my opinion.
 
I can't believe Archer doesn't get more respect. He was the player of the decade in the 90's when HOF caliber players like Buddy, Earl, Varner, Efren, Parica, & Bustamante were all playing great and were a threat to win any tournament. Plus he had a winning gambling record in the Philippines when he went in the 90's. everyone talks about him losing 2 sets to 1 gambling with Bustamante but he did win more games during that session 35 to 26. Plus Grady Matthews said once that Archer was the best 9ball player he had ever seen in his life and Grady had seen many of the greats.


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