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Island Drive

Island Drive

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Center left or Center right....Is there a term for striking a cue ball dead center, but finishing a little left or a little right of Center ?

I do not want to talk about aiming of any type. But....there's enough technical dialogue out there, I was hoping a new terminology was being used to describe this intended swing finish.
 
It's aways been a swipe stroke to me even if it starts out off center.

That is, if it is intended. If not intended, it is simply called a bad stroke.:wink:
 
I watched the video, the shot I'm mentioning is what I'd call ''pinching the cue ball''. The swoop video was Not it....tho it may be some type of toi thinking I'd guess. But I like outside toi's too.:thumbup: Where's my boat keys ;).
 
Your original description sounds more like backhand English (BHE). People take it too far and decide a "swoop" is even more gooderer for super-dooper Engrish spinny stuff.

Dr Dave also has some videos on BHE if you're interested, just search his site.
 
If your stick moves in a straight line, and it hits dead center, then it finishes dead center too.

The only way your stick hits dead center, but finishes to the left or right of the shot line,
is if you steer the stick after contact. So I'd call it steering and I'd say it's a symptom of a bad stroke.

You used the word "intentional" in there. What's the intent?
There's no reason to do it... Steering does not affect the cue ball in any way after contact.
You might as well try talking to it.
 
Island Drive said:
For;

Center left or Center right....Is there a term for striking a cue ball dead center, but finishing a little left or a little right of Center ?

I do not want to talk about aiming of any type. But....there's enough technical dialogue out there, I was hoping a new terminology was being used to describe this intended swing finish.
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I have heard it call "swerving" the cueball.
 
The important part of Dr. Dave's video is at 1:25 where he mentions that the 'one thing it does do is compensate for squirt if you haven't already done so with your aim'

Once you learn how to come off about one tip on your last stroke you no longer have to guess where to aim to compensate for deflection or squirt.

You aim it directly into the pocket - come off one tip on the last stroke the ball goes dead in and you get the action you desire on the CB.

Bert Kinister has an entire video on the subject titled "The Deflection Video" - this technique was taught to Bert by Tony Robles who also mentions Nick Varner, Earl and Efren all do this.

It changed the way I play - your mileage may vary and I expect many arguements over it.... Enjoy.:p
 
bigshooter said:
The important part of Dr. Dave's video is at 1:25 where he mentions that the 'one thing it does do is compensate for squirt if you haven't already done so with your aim'

Once you learn how to come off about one tip on your last stroke you no longer have to guess where to aim to compensate for deflection or squirt.

You aim it directly into the pocket - come off one tip on the last stroke the ball goes dead in and you get the action you desire on the CB.

Bert Kinister has an entire video on the subject titled "The Deflection Video" - this technique was taught to Bert by Tony Robles who also mentions Nick Varner, Earl and Efren all do this.

It changed the way I play - your mileage may vary and I expect many arguements over it.... Enjoy.:p
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The issues with this is that it won't work for inside with shorter or longer bridges(there is a sweet spot) The other problem is that with backhand, for outside English, you will overcut the OB without compensating for it which brings us back to square one.

There is a solution for outside
 
jasonlaus said:
The issues with this is that it won't work for inside with shorter or longer bridges(there is a sweet spot) The other problem is that with backhand, for outside English, you will overcut the OB without compensating for it which brings us back to square one.

There is a solution for outside
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Sorry I'm being vague.
Front hand English solves the problem.
Speed of the shot dictates everything, both front and back hand English.
 
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