You got to lay off the old Ricki Lake reruns with that palm stuff.
''Oh no you di-int'':smile:
Is there anybody wants to play for high stake against csin shun yang ?????
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''Oh no you di-int'':smile:
Lmao. Chris Melling!
Some good laughs in this thread, keep it coming guys. If you want a good idea of how strong Yang plays, or how strong he is perceived to play, just pay attention to the posters who actually know what they're talking about.
-roger <---knows a guy who knows a guy who will play Yang even in Russian billiards.
I'm sure Efren would play him some one pocket, Blomdahl would play him some 3 cushion, and Ronnie would play him some snooker. But as far as 9 or 10 ball goes, even in his semi-retired state, nobody is a favorite over him, and you can count the players who would be even bets against him on one hand.
Melling plays a great game and Daz would be another
great choice imo.Chris has a great game and is getting better and better playing 9ball.
Strange that if somebody has a different opinion that they have no
idea what there talking about,according to you.
If your saying Melling has no chance,makes me laugh as-well.
I'm glad we could make each other laugh,this is like a big tickle fight
Well get that ****er over here!!!
Melling is a steam roller.
Jeremy Jones will give him 9-8
Melling is a steam roller.
Jeremy Jones will give him 9-8
Wrong Question!!!
You are asking the wrong question! It's not whether anybody that wants to play Yang high stakes. It is whether anyone here wants to back high stakes any player against Yang.
Daren Johnson, knows many players that would play him on your money!:grin-square:
You are asking the wrong question! It's not whether anybody that wants to play Yang high stakes. It is whether anyone here wants to back high stakes any player against Yang.
Daren Johnson, knows many players that would play him on your money!:grin-square:
yang crushed dennis in a race to 60 9 ball a couple years back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byqAHEJDil4
nobody will beat him playing 9 ball. 10 ball, the only people in his stratosphere would be dennis, svb, or ko pin yi. i heard yang wanted a game last time he was here but i dont know if he got one. rack your own with a delta i think shane might win, but the guy plays pretty much perfect from what ive seen. would be fun to watch him match up though
nobody will beat him playing 9 ball. 10 ball, the only people in his stratosphere would be dennis, svb, or ko pin yi. i heard yang wanted a game last time he was here but i dont know if he got one. rack your own with a delta i think shane might win, but the guy plays pretty much perfect from what ive seen. would be fun to watch him match up though
I think Jones plays great as well and these type of guys can beat each
other on any given day.
I really like Mellings game,he's a big guy that floats around the table
like he has wings.
Pools like boxing,certain styles matched up makes for a great match.
For all the conversation about Yang, Chang Jun-Lin is the best player out of Taiwan ATM. He's the reigning world #1.
Ko and Chang YL are probably tied for 2nd.
Yang 2012 isn't Yang 2000~2008. It's something to do with motivation and desire to play. He did take almost 2 years off from competition.
Ko and Chang YL are probably tied for 2nd.
Yang 2012 isn't Yang 2000~2008. It's something to do with motivation and desire to play. He did take almost 2 years off from competition.
I like Yang better than Ko and Chang Yu Lung even now. Although I agree, Chang Jun Lin is probably the best player in the world at the moment, but still a coin flip with Yang.
You are right what he needs is motivation. And I think a race to 100 for 50k should solve the problem
.There was a time people called him "the money king" and nobody wanted to played with him.
Melling plays a great game and Daz would be another
great choice imo.Chris has a great game and is getting better and better playing 9ball.
Strange that if somebody has a different opinion that they have no
idea what there talking about,according to you.
If your saying Melling has no chance,makes me laugh as-well.
I'm glad we could make each other laugh,this is like a big tickle fight
Saying Melling has "no chance" against Yang is very different from saying Melling is the overwhelming underdog in that game.
It's okay to value opinions, and I suppose it fosters a very positive environment to say everyone's opinion is valid. My opinion, based on your nomination of Chris Melling in this thread, is the following:
either you are not familiar with Yang, his game, his history, his extraordinary talent,
or,
you cannot distinguish between a good showing in a race to 7 format and a long session for the cheese.
Yang is a feared money player. He has that reputation. Does Chris Melling even gamble? If he does, who has he played for money? Who has he beaten for money?
In any case, I maintain that this thread is highly entertaining.
-roger
What he needs is to wipe that little smirk off his face and find the desire to win again. You can tell he can't take losing, and when the younger Taiwanese kids started to run racks on him he just gave up.
I grew up watching him play on Wai-Lai tv. When he's on his game is pure perfection.
when you say rotation u need to specify 9ball. Because when he came to the BCA last year his 10 ball break was no good. His 10 ball break will not get the cabbage, sorry.
Now his 9 ball break on the fast cloth, maki.g the wing ball. he may never lose. I watched him alot in vegas as i booked action on the event.
Now his 9 ball break on the fast cloth, maki.g the wing ball. he may never lose. I watched him alot in vegas as i booked action on the event.
For a few years there, Yang was a magical player, able to run racks where everyone else was looking to play safe. He made shot after difficult shot where most players would be looking to duck. His unbelievable run outs sometimes fostered on the near impossible. He moved the cue ball multiple rails through small openings to break up clusters and play shape that was remarkable. And he just kept doing it, over and over again, until you began to believe he was really that good. And he was, maybe the best pool player ever at 9-Ball. I can't say that I ever saw anyone else play his speed for a prolonged period of time.
But those days may be gone, another great player relegated to history. Like so many before him, he will still play good, but no longer the magical game that made him legendary and deadly. He isn't that old, still in his early 30's, but the question remains if he can elevate his game to his previous high level. Only time and a few high stakes games with top players will tell. I for one, would like to see more of the old Yang. Unfortunately, history has shown that once a great player retires for any period of time they never can regain the old magic. I refer to Canella, the great Mexican champion from the late 70's and early 80's; Mark Tadd, who took on anyone with a cue for any amount they cared to play for; even the great Mike Sigel who retired at 40, one of the best tournament champions ever; Denny Searcy who was a lot like Yang, looking to play the best for the cash and taking them off, and even our Mosconi Cup coach CJ Wiley, who was chasing Efren and others all around the country playing for super high stakes and winning.
Only Buddy Hall, Efren and Parica maintained that super high level of play for an extended period of time. To a lesser degree, Varner and Hopkins could still play with the best players for decades. Anyway that's the way I see it and the way I viewed Yang on the several occasions I got to see him in action. I do know he has played money games in the Philippines during the last year (against the top players) and won and lost. He may not be the money king anymore, just another good player. That's how pool is. I believe among the Americans, Shane would love to play him, especially Ten Ball. But it's doubtful that Yang wants any of that. He might play anyone else though.
But those days may be gone, another great player relegated to history. Like so many before him, he will still play good, but no longer the magical game that made him legendary and deadly. He isn't that old, still in his early 30's, but the question remains if he can elevate his game to his previous high level. Only time and a few high stakes games with top players will tell. I for one, would like to see more of the old Yang. Unfortunately, history has shown that once a great player retires for any period of time they never can regain the old magic. I refer to Canella, the great Mexican champion from the late 70's and early 80's; Mark Tadd, who took on anyone with a cue for any amount they cared to play for; even the great Mike Sigel who retired at 40, one of the best tournament champions ever; Denny Searcy who was a lot like Yang, looking to play the best for the cash and taking them off, and even our Mosconi Cup coach CJ Wiley, who was chasing Efren and others all around the country playing for super high stakes and winning.
Only Buddy Hall, Efren and Parica maintained that super high level of play for an extended period of time. To a lesser degree, Varner and Hopkins could still play with the best players for decades. Anyway that's the way I see it and the way I viewed Yang on the several occasions I got to see him in action. I do know he has played money games in the Philippines during the last year (against the top players) and won and lost. He may not be the money king anymore, just another good player. That's how pool is. I believe among the Americans, Shane would love to play him, especially Ten Ball. But it's doubtful that Yang wants any of that. He might play anyone else though.
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I agree with you...
Great thread, all in all.
Great thread, all in all.
Jay, I was talking to a pool room owner in Taipei, who was on the pro circuit during Yang's heyday and he told me Yang's "secret" was his mastery over center ball. You'll hear the Taiwanese commentators call him the best "high low" cueist in the world, sending the CB multiple rails with no side english whatsoever.
I think you're right that it's unlikely Yang will regain his place at the top. IIRC he went to the final 8 in the WPC 4 or 5 years in a row, but never won. The closest he came was the year Earl won, I think 2002, when Yang played nearly flawless only to meet a Bustamante who played even better. I think he definitely felt the pressure at home, where for many years he was expected to win a world title. When that didn't materialize, and the younger kids started to catch up...he lost whatever spark made him special.
I still hope to see him make a comeback.
Thank you all for your opinions.I wish that some big match shows and I think it will,but also think it is not right time.There is not enough challenge for him at this moment,or whatever shows in some age of life.However,he is a high class player and one of the greatest of all time,so no doubt he,as many before on that or similar level of playing,would come back and plays again on the level he could play.Beside that,there are no many who watched him play for some money last days,or better to say months or years.So,there are no many those who could give real objectiv conclusion or statemant.However I appreciate all yours opinions and wish, as all of you do that one big match shows so we could enjoy in it.