Is this cortland 9
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If it was cortland, it would be the #12. (9 has green specks) hard to tell from pics
But my guess is not cortland.
But my guess is not cortland.
this has green specs
bad pic
The Wrap In The Photo Doesn't Even Look Like Cuttyhunk ......
IMO, the wrap isn't even a close facsimile. Cortland Linen is unmistakable in both feel and appearance.
Cortland Linen #9 (white w/green specks) was the most popular & popularized by George Balabushka.
Here's what genuine Cortland looks like. It's different from Penn & even Blue Mountain that was close
in quality but couldn't match Cortland Linen's overall consistency & uniformity of its hand woven strands.
Matt B.
p.s. The Cortland on the spool is a rare find I came across and it's a white with brown speck fishing
line. I was hoping to use it some day for a new custom but the CA ivory ban now makes that unlikely.
IMO, the wrap isn't even a close facsimile. Cortland Linen is unmistakable in both feel and appearance.
Cortland Linen #9 (white w/green specks) was the most popular & popularized by George Balabushka.
Here's what genuine Cortland looks like. It's different from Penn & even Blue Mountain that was close
in quality but couldn't match Cortland Linen's overall consistency & uniformity of its hand woven strands.
Matt B.
p.s. The Cortland on the spool is a rare find I came across and it's a white with brown speck fishing
line. I was hoping to use it some day for a new custom but the CA ivory ban now makes that unlikely.
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Hay Larry
Blue Mountain? Way better than Cortland. I have always thought Cortland crap. Gets rough and tears with wear.
Cheers,
Nick
Blue Mountain? Way better than Cortland. I have always thought Cortland crap. Gets rough and tears with wear.
Cheers,
Nick
Gotta dispute Nick's experience with my own.......the Cortland on my cues is flat, smooth and isn't fraying. The wraps in the photos aren't experiencing anything like Nick described.
If you take care of your wrap with occasional damp wiping a couple times annually followed by glass burnishing, and periodic burnishing by itself during the year ( 1x mth), the wrap
will actually become better and smoother than the original Cortland wrap ever felt......anyone attending Scott Lee's Billiard academy at Blue Fin Billiards is welcome to examine any
of my cues to see exactly what I mean.
If you take care of your wrap with occasional damp wiping a couple times annually followed by glass burnishing, and periodic burnishing by itself during the year ( 1x mth), the wrap
will actually become better and smoother than the original Cortland wrap ever felt......anyone attending Scott Lee's Billiard academy at Blue Fin Billiards is welcome to examine any
of my cues to see exactly what I mean.
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I'll have to try this. I recently purchased a James White with Cortland wrap and would like to keep it in good shape. Always had trouble with linen wraps.
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Rich Cue
Hi bbb
I have several of Abe's cues. I recently got a couple on ebay from Abe's nephew Howard. He still posts a couple on occasion. Your cue looks like its in as good condition or better than some of Howards' NOS (new old stock).
Abe made a great cue with many different styles, acrylics, color combo wraps and nice rings; but for some reason they seem undervalued.
They've been going for around 250 to 400.
I'd hold onto it rather than accepting only a few hundred.
As to wrap; I think you already got the info from our resident experts. Matt knows his stuff re cortline wrap!
Here's one I was watching, but I got side-tracked when it was ending. Someone got a steal!
The seller is Abe's nephew
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322195581439?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Enjoy
Dave
Hi bbb
I have several of Abe's cues. I recently got a couple on ebay from Abe's nephew Howard. He still posts a couple on occasion. Your cue looks like its in as good condition or better than some of Howards' NOS (new old stock).
Abe made a great cue with many different styles, acrylics, color combo wraps and nice rings; but for some reason they seem undervalued.
They've been going for around 250 to 400.
I'd hold onto it rather than accepting only a few hundred.
As to wrap; I think you already got the info from our resident experts. Matt knows his stuff re cortline wrap!
Here's one I was watching, but I got side-tracked when it was ending. Someone got a steal!
The seller is Abe's nephew
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322195581439?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Enjoy
Dave
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I have talked to Howard myself. I was looking for an extra shaft.
It is smart of him to release the cues slowly to market or he would further depress the value. He often has 2-3 for sale at a time.
AFAIK these are the NOS cues that were found under Abe's wood pile.
dvs: I have to disagree with the typical selling price range you give. Sadly, most of them are going for between $100 and $200, unless they have points or something special. Sad, but true. I guess there are just too many of them.
Just click on completed listings for the seller and you can see the selling prices. I have been following his sales for years.
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It is smart of him to release the cues slowly to market or he would further depress the value. He often has 2-3 for sale at a time.
AFAIK these are the NOS cues that were found under Abe's wood pile.
dvs: I have to disagree with the typical selling price range you give. Sadly, most of them are going for between $100 and $200, unless they have points or something special. Sad, but true. I guess there are just too many of them.
Just click on completed listings for the seller and you can see the selling prices. I have been following his sales for years.
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Rich cues
Hi ChopDoc
Yes, many have gone for under a couple hundred. I saw one for 375 (I think the most expensive) and another for just under 250. Maybe one day we'll say "remember when you could pick these up for a song" .
I think Howard has seen several of them sell for more than he got and has started putting a reserve on some of them.
I have one with the Florida cue label; another has the word RICH on the butt, most of the others I have just have the white sticker on the butt; usually with red ink.
Howard always enclosed a picture of Abe and some other historical info on his uncle's history. I've found his story both interesting and inspirational.
Best Regards
Dave
Hi ChopDoc
Yes, many have gone for under a couple hundred. I saw one for 375 (I think the most expensive) and another for just under 250. Maybe one day we'll say "remember when you could pick these up for a song" .
I think Howard has seen several of them sell for more than he got and has started putting a reserve on some of them.
I have one with the Florida cue label; another has the word RICH on the butt, most of the others I have just have the white sticker on the butt; usually with red ink.
Howard always enclosed a picture of Abe and some other historical info on his uncle's history. I've found his story both interesting and inspirational.
Best Regards
Dave
Just so you know, Cortland does not have specks. It is one continuous colored line of linen wound with other white lines.
It just ends up looking specked when wound on a cue etc, I guess that's why most people say it has specks, even when they know what you are saying.
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duplicate of below post....sorry.
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