Is this Legal?

Carom tangent line

I've seen this in 9ball especially. You have a shot at a carom to pocket the nine. You are looking for the 90 degree path to send the cue ball after hitting the object ball (don't care if OB pockets or not-we're rolling the 9).

So, you lay the cue down on the table; on, or parallel to this desired carom path(you let go of the cue and walk to where you can 'see' the 'right angle' from the cue line to the OB).

From that established carom path line, you work backwards to find the the 90 degree path for the object ball; that gives you the approximate aiming /contact point on the OB.

You pick up cue, shoot, make the 9ball and get ready to break.

Legal?

I don't get it.
 
Is 9-ball popular in HK.

Tiffpoolbum said:
Blowfish didn't say someone said anything about striking the ball, he was just stating his opinion about striking the cue ball only with the tip but nothing else. It is another important thing a player should watch out for other than no letting go of the cue while aiming. I do not see any reason to be so sacastic about it.

By the way, Blowfish, is 9 ball popular in HK? I always thought snooker is the only billiard game there.


Hi Tiffpoolbum,

It only just began about 5 years ago or a bit more by expats before the Efren Reyes and Earl Strickland Color of Money match in HK.

A group of expats(Americans, Germans, Japanese, etc), filipinos and returning chinese started playing in a pub call Skitz in Wanchai about 3 years ago when these bar opened with a 9 footer table. Now there are 2 tables and it's a long wait when you have about 20 or so guys wanting to play. :(

Then a group of Germans setup the very first HK Pool Club (I'm members only) with 2 tables and soon will become 4. They have the best in HK as members when it comes to pool.
Visit their site --> http://www.hongkongpoolclub.com/

Delaneys Bar in Wanchai also has a members only 1 table pool room.

The above are the only places you can play 9 footers in HK Island and no snooker room in HK Island that has pool tables.

In the Kowloon part of HK, there are 4 snooker halls with pool tables.

The Hong Kong 9Ball Team League is just starting it's 2nd League in April 2 and this is a yearly one.

In short, it's not big as big as snooker, but it is gaining momentum. HKBSCC (HK Billiards and Sports Control Council) is not as supportive in pool as it is in snooker.

Anyone Az'ers passing by HK, just PM in advance and we can have a beer or two and shot some pool.
 
DeadStrokeMan said:
Sometimes I can't reach the shot. Rather than using the 'rake' - I lay my cue down on the table ... in line with the shot .... walk around the table - carefully pick up my cue and stroke the shot in.
Currently it is a foul for no good reason. You are in very, very good company in using this technique.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Currently it is a foul for no good reason. You are in very, very good company in using this technique.

It's a foul, but I think there is a good reason behind it. In this case, clearly the cue is being used as an aiming device. It usually is. In this case, it is being laid on the table and let go for the express purpose of aiding in the pocketing of a shot. If that's not the express purpose, why lay it down on the table at all? This is what's illegal. I think the reasoning behind the illegality is if this were legal, then why wouldn't you be able lay the cue down to line up kicks, banks, combos, etc? Then you could extrapolate that to being able to use the mechanical bridge, etc. The rule makes sense to me.

-djb
 
DoomCue said:
It's a foul, but I think there is a good reason behind it....
We will have to agree disagree on this. Placing the stick on the line you need to have it on to shoot a shot is a normal part of the game.
 
DoomCue said:
It's a foul,... clearly the cue is being used as an aiming device...

-djb

In a way - this is totally silly. The Cue - just as "the rifle" *IS* by definition, the AIMING DEVICE. You "aim" your cue at the CB -> OB. If you didn't "aim your cue" - you'd surely miss every time :D
 
DeadStrokeMan said:
In a way - this is totally silly. The Cue - just as "the rifle" *IS* by definition, the AIMING DEVICE. You "aim" your cue at the CB -> OB. If you didn't "aim your cue" - you'd surely miss every time :D
I know, which is why I wrote, "It usually is." I believe laying the cue down is along the same lines as using chalk as a rail target when kicking/banking, which I'm assuming is why the rule was written as it is.

-djb
 
tiffpoolbum

I apologize if I sounded sarcastic but if a person highlights a post and then gives a quote from the rulebook which had absolutely nothing to do whatso ever with what he highlighted in his own post! In post #27 he is talking about placing the tip of his cue on the table and walking around the table holding his cue and blow fish quotes some rule about a legal strike on the cue ball. which was a completely different topic! It isn't my intention to start shit but hell we could be on the same page here,maybe English isn't his mother language. I know my English is getting worse and worse and my German isn't any better. Nothing personal. I'm like everyone else, always trying to keep informed or find something useful which might or might not be of value to me or my company. I have learned immeasurable little tidbits here and there thanks to this forum and to the knowledgeable participants here. Peace


No-sho
 
That is illegal in 48 states, violators can and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. :D
 
DoomCue said:
I know, which is why I wrote, "It usually is." I believe laying the cue down is along the same lines as using chalk as a rail target when kicking/banking, which I'm assuming is why the rule was written as it is.

-djb


Assuming the chalk is left on the rail at the time your shot is made.

I am also making a leap here and saying they mean the same would apply to the cue....you can't leave it there and shoot anymore than you could leave the chalk on the rail and shoot** using it as an aiming device**...

Dave
 
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