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jalapus logan

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My final answer... The arrow doesn't matter much. I've never played with low deflection anything nor carbon fiber. I played with both this past week exclusively in the Vegas BCAPL event in the tournament using a borrowed cue. Ran out just fine. The lighting level was low beside the tables and I grabbed my teammate's cue on accident and used it to complete a break and run. He asked me how the cue shot, lol, I didn't even notice it wasn't the loaner cue I was given to play with. I'm convinced, the cue barely matters. Again, final answer. Play with whatever you want. Peace ✌️
 
jalapus logan said:
My final answer... The arrow doesn't matter much. I've never played with low deflection anything nor carbon fiber. I played with both this past week exclusively in the Vegas BCAPL event in the tournament using a borrowed cue. Ran out just fine. The lighting level was low beside the tables and I grabbed my teammate's cue on accident and used it to complete a break and run. He asked me how the cue shot, lol, I didn't even notice it wasn't the loaner cue I was given to play with. I'm convinced, the cue barely matters. Again, final answer. Play with whatever you want. Peace ✌️
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Troll post of the week nominee...lol. I'll bite. I can play fine with either. I had someone comment just the other day that based on my video I posted it looks like I would've run out with a broom stick. That doesn't mean the advantage that technology provides isn't real. Consistency can be measured in fractions of a percent and confidence in your equipment can be the difference between winning and going two and out.

When I was in Viriginia years ago and went to meet up with and play with, crap I can't think of his handle now. He was dating Pink Lady and she lived with him at the time. An older friend of his had a really nice traditional cue at the time and I was explaining BHE to them. The older gentleman stated that he just couldn't adjust to low deflection and I explained the pivot point and he let me shoot with his cue. I shot a few shots to find the pivot point and then ran out a rack and they were both surprised that I could pick up a cueand adjust to it and use it with lots of side spin that quickly.

Knowledge and experience are the ultimate arbiter of results I guess is what I'm getting at, but how you get there and how confident you are with what you use shouldn't be discounted either.
 
The BEST cue for YOU is one you can TRUST to DO what YOU are CAPABLE of DOING.

It is NOT a spec, a type, a brand, etc.

If I can TRUST the cue to do what I am INTENDING to do, it is a GOOD cue.

You have to have a cue that you can COMMUNICATE with.

Some cues can NOT be TRUSTED.
 
HawaiianEye said:
The BEST cue for YOU is one you can TRUST to DO what YOU are CAPABLE of DOING.

It is NOT a spec, a type, a brand, etc.

If I can TRUST the cue to do what I am INTENDING to do, it is a GOOD cue.

You have to have a cue that you can COMMUNICATE with.

Some cues can NOT be TRUSTED.
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I stand corrected. When I miss, it is entirely the cue's fault and I give it a stern scolding.
 
Jaden said:
Troll post of the week nominee...lol. I'll bite. I can play fine with either. I had someone comment just the other day that based on my video I posted it looks like I would've run out with a broom stick. That doesn't mean the advantage that technology provides isn't real. Consistency can be measured in fractions of a percent and confidence in your equipment can be the difference between winning and going two and out.

When I was in Viriginia years ago and went to meet up with and play with, crap I can't think of his handle now. He was dating Pink Lady and she lived with him at the time. An older friend of his had a really nice traditional cue at the time and I was explaining BHE to them. The older gentleman stated that he just couldn't adjust to low deflection and I explained the pivot point and he let me shoot with his cue. I shot a few shots to find the pivot point and then ran out a rack and they were both surprised that I could pick up a cueand adjust to it and use it with lots of side spin that quickly.

Knowledge and experience are the ultimate arbiter of results I guess is what I'm getting at, but how you get there and how confident you are with what you use shouldn't be discounted either.
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I don't know much about pivot point and I don't know what BHE is, but I am unconvinced that we can say that a stick with a peice of leather glued on the end of it can contain much technology.

I even played with a "forward weighted" carbon fiber cue at one of the vendor booths. Made balls per the usual with that too.

I'm just saying that there's not much there there concerning cues. Again, final answer.
 
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jalapus logan said:
I don't know much about pivot point and I don't know what BHE is, but I am unconvinced that we can say that a stick with a price of leather glued on the end of it can contain much technology.

I even played with a "forward weighted" carbon fiber cue at one of the vendor booths. Made balls per the usual with that too.

I'm just saying that there's not much there there concerning cues. Again, final answer.
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What is your FARGO rating? Your post is interesting?
 
HawaiianEye said:
The BEST cue for YOU is one you can TRUST to DO what YOU are CAPABLE of DOING.

It is NOT a spec, a type, a brand, etc.

If I can TRUST the cue to do what I am INTENDING to do, it is a GOOD cue.

You have to have a cue that you can COMMUNICATE with.

Some cues can NOT be TRUSTED.
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This here is the whole ball game
 
jalapus logan said:
My final answer... The arrow doesn't matter much. I've never played with low deflection anything nor carbon fiber. I played with both this past week exclusively in the Vegas BCAPL event in the tournament using a borrowed cue. Ran out just fine. The lighting level was low beside the tables and I grabbed my teammate's cue on accident and used it to complete a break and run. He asked me how the cue shot, lol, I didn't even notice it wasn't the loaner cue I was given to play with. I'm convinced, the cue barely matters. Again, final answer. Play with whatever you want. Peace ✌️
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...but <play>.
 
Some people believe the cue doesn't matter. It's true with some players but not all.

Back in around 2000 or so there was a pool cue sale at a place I'd played before. I walked in with an idea that I'd pick a cue I liked by looking at it. I had been playing with an old Adam exclusively for the previous 10 years or so.

The seller was a really knowledgeable guy. An icon. Well-known in the circuit. He had over 500 cues including some that had a value well over $20,000.
When we got there he had a blank table and 4-5 tables with cues laying on them. I saw a couple I liked and he wouldn't sell them to me without going through his process.

His process was as follows.

Pick 4 cues. Shoot 10 balls with each cue. Whichever you shot best with, put it aside.
Repeat.
When you have 4 cues set aside, play those 4 cues.
Then play them again.

Then decide what cue you want.

I ended up with a Meucci 97-11. Which was NOT one of the ones I looked at and wanted at first. I paid $169 for it with a generic shaft.
But I still played better with my Adam.

I weighed my Adam and weighed the Meucci. They were within a gram of each other. The balance point, though, was different.

So, I played the Meucci when I played my friend. When someone challenged the table, I would break out the Adam. I kept the table 90% of the time.

The thing about the Adam is it was well-played. The tip was right at12mm but the working point of the shaft had been worn down and was just shy of 11.2mm. Yeah, it was a wobbly tip. The other thing was that the shaft had a slight warp to it. I clocked it so the warp went upward on my shot. I would put the logo at the butt at 10:00 and it was like shooting with a straight cue with built in English.

So, no, you can't shoot the same regardless of the cue. At least that's the hill I stand on.
 
You meant the archer.
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jalapus logan said:
My final answer... The arrow doesn't matter much. I've never played with low deflection anything nor carbon fiber. I played with both this past week exclusively in the Vegas BCAPL event in the tournament using a borrowed cue. Ran out just fine. The lighting level was low beside the tables and I grabbed my teammate's cue on accident and used it to complete a break and run. He asked me how the cue shot, lol, I didn't even notice it wasn't the loaner cue I was given to play with. I'm convinced, the cue barely matters. Again, final answer. Play with whatever you want. Peace ✌️
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I played some of the best pool in my life with a 18oz bar cue that had a slight ting from a loose screw at the bottom (or maybe that was the other stick.) Either way, playing with a borrowed cue, a house cue, or your favorite cue, it's still the shooter.

Can you work the magic you've worked with your daily player using a borrowed stick sure, will it happen all the time probably not, because of your comfortably level with your daily player.

I feel lucky that my daily player is also my breaker, masse'r, one pocket, and 9 ball stick. No jump cue. The stick is just unreal. Wait for it,


It's a monster.
 
I can shoot the lights out with a mop handle if I had to. Doesn't mean I want to.

I would never say a specific cue makes me shoot better. But damn if some cues don't just feel better in the hands..
 
Jaden said:
Troll post of the week nominee...lol. I'll bite. I can play fine with either. I had someone comment just the other day that based on my video I posted it looks like I would've run out with a broom stick. That doesn't mean the advantage that technology provides isn't real. Consistency can be measured in fractions of a percent and confidence in your equipment can be the difference between winning and going two and out.

When I was in Viriginia years ago and went to meet up with and play with, crap I can't think of his handle now. He was dating Pink Lady and she lived with him at the time. An older friend of his had a really nice traditional cue at the time and I was explaining BHE to them. The older gentleman stated that he just couldn't adjust to low deflection and I explained the pivot point and he let me shoot with his cue. I shot a few shots to find the pivot point and then ran out a rack and they were both surprised that I could pick up a cueand adjust to it and use it with lots of side spin that quickly.

Knowledge and experience are the ultimate arbiter of results I guess is what I'm getting at, but how you get there and how confident you are with what you use shouldn't be discounted either.
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Wonder who that could've😉 been??
 
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