"It's the Indian, not the arrow" the most nonsense I've ever heard.....

[billiards_watch]

Thats like me!!!!! When I get to the table to shoot the room goes silent and everyone turns their heads to watch me "spin the rock". All I hear is ooohhhhhh and aaaahhhhhhh and lots of applauding.

You should see me at people's houses.

I was invited to a house warming party and the owner proceeded to give us a tour of his house. He then tells me he has a game room. He opens the door to his game room and there was a pool table. 8' footer that you normally see in Costco catalogs with the slow red felt. I just acknowledge how nice the room is then one of the girls said I played pool and threw some balls on the table. So I grabbed a sticked and ran out the balls.

The look on everyone's faces. They thought I was some magician. LOL

I made sure to incorporate a stun shot, a draw shot, a bank shot and one behind my back because its my favorite. I made sure to lift one leg and pose a bit too.

 

[JPB2]

This voice of reason doesn’t belong with most of the posts in this thread…..they would send Doc Holliday to the OK Corral with a Saturday Night Special.

I will say this at the risk of sounding like I’m arguing with myself. You can’t be so fastidious about equipment that you collapse mentally if conditions aren’t right. I had that come up in a 3C tournament where my opponent, through his own fault, had to borrow a cue for our match. I won’t go into all the details, but he did not handle the situation well at all. I liked my chances against him at that point. Ironically I used a cue I bought from him to win.. Some players get so worked up about balls, cloth etc… they hurt their chances when competing.

I bet that if you took Hu’s perfect 1911 away and sent him to the OK Corral with an off the shelf pistol he’d focus more on the gunfight than the fact the ergonomics or sights etc… were different. That doesn’t mean ignoring equipment, it means that competitors pay attention to their equipment AND compete with what they have that moment.

 

[billiards_watch]

So who is more of a serious player? The guy with the Gina or the guy with the Mezz?

 

[Zerksies]

I have had a few things that were too good for everyday use. Never used any of them. Regret not using them. I strongly advise playing with and enjoying the cues or at least the very best one. The day will come when you are glad you did!

Hu

I used it for 20 years. I had my time with it

 

[gregcantrall]

Way back in "the day", I knew of 2 players that used their $20 cues as a prop. Drunk Act Kelly was known for taking the allowance of beginners. He always showed up near finish time of the local B tournament and stagger in. His cue probably came from Sears. The butt was painted black and the paint was worn away where he gripped the cue. Caromshots were his special skill. Peona was a road player that carried a similar cue in the cheapest vinyl envelope style cue case. If Fargorate had existed back then he would have probably been mid 700s.

 

[pt109]

I will say this at the risk of sounding like I’m arguing with myself. You can’t be so fastidious about equipment that you collapse mentally if conditions aren’t right. I had that come up in a 3C tournament where my opponent, through his own fault, had to borrow a cue for our match. I won’t go into all the details, but he did not handle the situation well at all. I liked my chances against him at that point. Ironically I used a cue I bought from him to win.. Some players get so worked up about balls, cloth etc… they hurt their chances when competing.

I bet that if you took Hu’s perfect 1911 away and sent him to the OK Corral with an off the shelf pistol he’d focus more on the gunfight than the fact the ergonomics or sights etc… were different. That doesn’t mean ignoring equipment, it means that competitors pay attention to their equipment AND compete with what they have that moment.

You are talking to a decent road player in his prime….I’ve busted action rooms playing out of the rack…but. …If there was a player that had a
chance of busting me, I went to my car and got a playing cue. Some of those house cues had me going all out to scrape out a win…..all the better when the action heated up….I probably won’t post this way again….I don’t come here to beat my chest.

 

[SmoothStroke]

They only made a couple hundred before the went to the 1911A1 after ARMY testing.
Do you really have a pre-A 1911 ???

No sir that’s a little steep for me.

 

[SmoothStroke]

Knowledge is power ... If you don't have knowledge the arrow is useless no matter the cost

Then I’m screwed all the way around.

 

[GoldCrown]

We buy beautiful cues because we love them. Aside from the custom specs fashion matters. It does not help my game ...just love the look. You like it, want it, can afford it..buy it. Otherwise a 1piece Dufferin will do the job. I have a converted red label from 1998...feels as good as anything out there.

 

[Cue Alchemist]

and steven hendry won his 7 world championships (and everything else) with a £40 cue he got as a teenager

That cue was brought from a sports shop, where he saw it in the window, because it been sitting there for sometime, the butt was warped. He just learnt to use it like that.being age 12 or 13 i doubt he really cared.he just really liked his new cue. It was maple one piece. he certainly mastered it. 7 worlds says it all.

 

[ShootingArts]

I will say this at the risk of sounding like I’m arguing with myself. You can’t be so fastidious about equipment that you collapse mentally if conditions aren’t right. I had that come up in a 3C tournament where my opponent, through his own fault, had to borrow a cue for our match. I won’t go into all the details, but he did not handle the situation well at all. I liked my chances against him at that point. Ironically I used a cue I bought from him to win.. Some players get so worked up about balls, cloth etc… they hurt their chances when competing.

I bet that if you took Hu’s perfect 1911 away and sent him to the OK Corral with an off the shelf pistol he’d focus more on the gunfight than the fact the ergonomics or sights etc… were different. That doesn’t mean ignoring equipment, it means that competitors pay attention to their equipment AND compete with what they have that moment.

Well, to be truthful, I would rather be the one with the 1911! I had just bought some chinese food and returned to my Suburban in an almost empty parking lot. A guy was walking towards me from some apartments across the street. As he passed under a light I saw he had a 1911 in his right hand but with his hand holding it by the muzzle and dust cover. He was trying to conceal the pistol behind his hand and arm. Crapola! I can't leave before arranging the chinese food or I am going to have a hell of a mess. I have my 357 snubby with me but I'll be the first to admit I wasn't thrilled to be sitting the the SUV with a snubby revolver to go against a 1911. I had to shoot across my body and be careful not to get hot gases and bullet fragments in my eyes. Gonna be noisy as hell too, I would be stone deaf after shooting, been there before and I didn't hear for three days.

I rolled my window down to have a little more room to maneuver and shoot. At the time I was a master class shooter and in competition at least a half dozen times a month. I was alert and ready, snubby in hand although out of sight. I had been watching his right arm for awhile. If his hand started up things were going to hell in a hurry because I was emptying the snubby. He got about thirty feet away and didn't like the window down with it pretty cold and my general alert attitude watching him. He veered away and the incident was over. Later I realized that I should have tore out of there and had the car detailed the next day but I was concerned that he might start shooting and my position was better with him approaching me at mostly a side angle instead of shooting from the back.

As for pool cues, my MO was to shoot off the wall. I might have welcomed a hinged cue shooting against strong opposition shooting a custom but mine was back home. I left it in the car if I carried it and I wasn't willing to risk heat or theft.

Hu

 

[Chopdoc]

 

[ShootingArts]

They only made a couple hundred before the went to the 1911A1 after ARMY testing.
Do you really have a pre-A 1911 ???

I don't know about serial numbers which I thought started with C on the original Colt but there were over 600,000 1911's produced before the 1911A1 was introduced in 1926. They left a gap in serial numbers I believe with the 1911A1's starting at 700,000 in case they needed more 1911 serial numbers. I never liked the swelled mainspring housing and it was the first thing I changed on a 1911A1.

Hu

 

[billiards_watch]

Man's hoarding all the Cobras.

 

[Fore Rail]

This is the biggest nonsense I have ever heard and I have a rebuttal to people saying I shouldn't spend thousands on a cue. Personally, I can play with anything. I can grab a cue off the wall and play it. I can play with any production cue on the market. I just want to play with something nice. I can play fine with anything but I choose a fancy cue with inlays. Built by an expert.

"It's the Indian, not the arrow" cliche doesn't apply to me or many on here.

It's like the go-to argument whenever a new cue or expensive cues enters the chat. Nobody needs a sports car but we want one. LOL

I can’t stress this enough. Nobody gives a shit that you say I can play with anything. Secondly nobody gives a shit about your fancy cue with inlays built by an expert.

Of course it’s the player, it’s always the player. When the cue starts making the decisions please let me know.

Let your game do the talking, not your mouth.

 

[billiards_watch]

I can’t stress this enough. Nobody gives a shit that you say I can play with anything. Secondly nobody gives a shit about your fancy cue with inlays built by an expert.

Of course it’s the player, it’s always the player. When the cue starts making the decisions please let me know.

Let your game do the talking, not your mouth.

I already said I can play with anything and can play well with something off the wall.

I choose a cue built by an expert. Nothing more. Nothing less.

It's nonsense to think the cue made by the expert will make me a better player. I'm choosing to play with one.

 

[Chopdoc]

Man's hoarding all the Cobras.

 

[billiards_watch]

You guys know this saying is only said when the conversation of "buying a new cue" or "wanting a new cue" arises right?
Its used to put down people that buy expensive cues or have an overall liking for cues.

Me: "Oh have you seen that new cue from XYZ company....."

Debbie Downer: "you know its the indian and not the arrow right?"

Me: "No shit you idiot! I just want a new cue."

I hope this clears things up. Its not some philosophical saying and never really used in conversation except to put one down. I just want a new cue damn it. LOL

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

I am sure Hu can confirm a story like this.

I too, have been a Master class shooter in my chosen discipline and have trained, formally and informally, many many people in the use of firearms. Inevitability a student/friend/etc will shoot at a target, miss and blame the gun. I then ask to see their firearm and proceed hit, over and over, the same target they have been missing. Proving again it’s the carpenter not the hammer…

 

[GoldCrown]

Do better condoms make a man a better lover?