It's true, Wal-mart IS selling schon cues. There the same price(I guess), until Rollback comes. I wonder if you can buy in bulk at Sam's club
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It's True. What do we do?
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was this already made aware to AZ. I mean the fact that they are for sure selling Schon's. I know there was a rumor...
It's unfortunately very true. We on AZ have known for a month or two now. 'Twas a very sad day. 
I didn't know for sure until today. sorry
There have been at least three or four other threads on the subject. All containing the same "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" emotion.
To save you going and re-reading all the other threads, Wal-Mart isn't selling these cues, these cues are being made available through their website, on a direct delivery system from whoever the distributor of the cues is. Thus you don't have to worry about the "rollback", as the distributor is setting the pricing, not Wal-mart.
It's just another avenue of distribution. The cues aren't in the stores, and won't be. It's like most of the stuff you buy through Amazon or Bing or Overstock or any of dozens of other web businesses. Except it says Wal-Mart at the top of the page.
More to the point of your oiginal post, "It's true, what do we do?" What should you do? Why should you do it? Be a smart shopper, investigate the products you intend to buy, and make your decision. Pretty basic stuff. If the quality of any particular product suffers because the company is lower it's standards to meet Wal-Marts price, then you either accept the lower quality (and price) or you buy a different product. Believe me, if Wal-Mart weren't the big bad guy doing this, some one else would. Just not as successfully as Wal-Mart... Remember, that isn't the case with these cues. That is a web-delivery arrangement only, not any Wal-Mart purchasing-agreement issue.
To save you going and re-reading all the other threads, Wal-Mart isn't selling these cues, these cues are being made available through their website, on a direct delivery system from whoever the distributor of the cues is. Thus you don't have to worry about the "rollback", as the distributor is setting the pricing, not Wal-mart.
It's just another avenue of distribution. The cues aren't in the stores, and won't be. It's like most of the stuff you buy through Amazon or Bing or Overstock or any of dozens of other web businesses. Except it says Wal-Mart at the top of the page.
More to the point of your oiginal post, "It's true, what do we do?" What should you do? Why should you do it? Be a smart shopper, investigate the products you intend to buy, and make your decision. Pretty basic stuff. If the quality of any particular product suffers because the company is lower it's standards to meet Wal-Marts price, then you either accept the lower quality (and price) or you buy a different product. Believe me, if Wal-Mart weren't the big bad guy doing this, some one else would. Just not as successfully as Wal-Mart... Remember, that isn't the case with these cues. That is a web-delivery arrangement only, not any Wal-Mart purchasing-agreement issue.
It's cool. I'm sure you can search for the threads were the potential effects on Schon values have been discussed.
I still can't see how this is bad, effects a Schon cue's quality, or effects the value of a Schon.
Schon is not making WalMart cues....they are making Schon cues plain and simple. If WalMart sold Bose surround sound systems would you say "Oooh I wouldn't buy that piece of crap.....they sell it at WalMart."
I think production cue makers made a very wise move by allowing WalMart to advertise their cues on their site. More exposure means more ppl that could buy what you are selling. I would bet $1 to $.01 that more people walk into WalMart and visit walmart.com than walk into and visit each and every billiard store/site in this country.
Schon is not making WalMart cues....they are making Schon cues plain and simple. If WalMart sold Bose surround sound systems would you say "Oooh I wouldn't buy that piece of crap.....they sell it at WalMart."
I think production cue makers made a very wise move by allowing WalMart to advertise their cues on their site. More exposure means more ppl that could buy what you are selling. I would bet $1 to $.01 that more people walk into WalMart and visit walmart.com than walk into and visit each and every billiard store/site in this country.
Two points:
1. I'll always stick to our independent vendors no matter what. I'll pay the extra, especially when buying a $1,000 cue, just for the customer service. What you would save with a price "rollback", you'll pay double for in the event that you have to deal with their customer service.
2. Doesn't it seem a little odd, buying an expensive cue and then purchasing http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sportcraft-Billiard-Starter-Set/3321547 in the same order? Something is not right about that.
When it comes to pool, please support the smaller guys and give them an opportunity to compete.
1. I'll always stick to our independent vendors no matter what. I'll pay the extra, especially when buying a $1,000 cue, just for the customer service. What you would save with a price "rollback", you'll pay double for in the event that you have to deal with their customer service.
2. Doesn't it seem a little odd, buying an expensive cue and then purchasing http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sportcraft-Billiard-Starter-Set/3321547 in the same order? Something is not right about that.
When it comes to pool, please support the smaller guys and give them an opportunity to compete.
When clicking the link I also noticed that they sell Aramith balls.
I too stick with my normal vendors which are Seyberts, Pool Dawg and cuecomponents.com. If I can't find it on any of those I go to one of the other vendors I have bought from. I get a better price and get it faster from them than I ever would from WalMart.
Maybe we should be happy pool might get a few new converts who realize the game isn't just something you do en route to getting hammered on the weekends.
Your spliced point Schon won't lose value because they still aren't making any, and your newer Schon was never an investment anyway.
Everyone relax.
Your spliced point Schon won't lose value because they still aren't making any, and your newer Schon was never an investment anyway.
Everyone relax.
I mean't my words in a joking manner but in all seriousness, Schon sold out. And we have entered the Wal-Mart Schon era(like the ebay DP era we are also in).
to go with the post above.
Wal-Mart is not making Schon cues. Please explain why the quality would suffer.
You're suffering from reversing the sufficient and necessary conditions of Walmart and the quality of their goods.
By the way, the sky is falling.
Let's be clear on this subject. You can not walk into Walmart and buy a Schon cue. It is on line purchase only.
Let's look from another angle. Say you are a small local business and you make a great product. You can't afford to advertise nationally to get the word out on your product. You get a deal with Walmart to let them put your product on their website. In return you give them 3% to 5% of whatever sells from their website. Sounds like a great deal for the little guy to me.
So....if you buy a cue from Walmart on line, they contact their supplier and the supplier ships it to you. There are no cues on the shelves at Walmart...................yet.
I doubt there ever will be.
I realize that. Thats like saying ebay is making DP cues. Obiviously Ebay doesn't make Dales cues. But it shows he was desperate and willing to lower his reputaion for alittle cash(selling out). The sky is falling for schon.
This is conjecture at best. Why is the sky falling for Schon? You just keep repeating this crap and never come up with anything substantive.
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The problem lies in the massive anti-walmart sentiment in our country today. So anyone who associates with Wal-Mart must automatically be a "sell-out". And thus have reduced quality in their products.
This reputation comes somewhat earned, though significantly exagerrated over time. Not everything sold at Wal-Mart is made to their specs or price. The thing is you have to know what you're looking for, and what you're looking at. I am reasonably certain that Steve Jobs isn't manufacturing a different iPod for Wal-Mart than you get when buying it from Apple direct, or anywhere else that sells iPods. Sony TV's, as well. (Though other, lower tier TV manufacturers do indeed make Wal-Mart versions. There is the rub.) Nintendo Wii, Sony Playstation and Microsoft X-Box, all the same models sold everywhere. Bose was a good example earlier. Brand-named groceries aren't any different at Wal-Mart, from what I've seen. Are they ALL sell-outs? The biggest names in consumer goods today?
If Schon is/was as respected a name as it seems to have been, this will have no bearing on their reputation as a result of their cues being available on a web-portal. To MOST of the population of this country. There will always be those who will use any excuse to rail at "the system", or "the gummint", or Wal-Mart. (Or the Yankees. And in that case we're absolutley right
) And yes, if Schon were to make a different version of their product to be sold in actual Wal-Mart stores, THEN you might have a case. But unless/until that happens, don't worry about Schon, and "what do we DO?"
*** I do not work for Wal-Mart. In truth, they are my companies main competition, and they do me far more harm than good, now that they have cleaned up their acts and their stores. But that is my problem to deal with. Yes, they are the big giant to be dealt with, but until someone does it better than them, that is what we have to deal with. ***
This reputation comes somewhat earned, though significantly exagerrated over time. Not everything sold at Wal-Mart is made to their specs or price. The thing is you have to know what you're looking for, and what you're looking at. I am reasonably certain that Steve Jobs isn't manufacturing a different iPod for Wal-Mart than you get when buying it from Apple direct, or anywhere else that sells iPods. Sony TV's, as well. (Though other, lower tier TV manufacturers do indeed make Wal-Mart versions. There is the rub.) Nintendo Wii, Sony Playstation and Microsoft X-Box, all the same models sold everywhere. Bose was a good example earlier. Brand-named groceries aren't any different at Wal-Mart, from what I've seen. Are they ALL sell-outs? The biggest names in consumer goods today?
If Schon is/was as respected a name as it seems to have been, this will have no bearing on their reputation as a result of their cues being available on a web-portal. To MOST of the population of this country. There will always be those who will use any excuse to rail at "the system", or "the gummint", or Wal-Mart. (Or the Yankees. And in that case we're absolutley right
) And yes, if Schon were to make a different version of their product to be sold in actual Wal-Mart stores, THEN you might have a case. But unless/until that happens, don't worry about Schon, and "what do we DO?"*** I do not work for Wal-Mart. In truth, they are my companies main competition, and they do me far more harm than good, now that they have cleaned up their acts and their stores. But that is my problem to deal with. Yes, they are the big giant to be dealt with, but until someone does it better than them, that is what we have to deal with. ***
Damn. Just when I thought we had closed the book on this thing, someone brings it up again. I been cryin' all day! :sorry:
I would love to see large retailers promoting and selling quality pool related products. Even more so I would love them to be tremendously successful.
Wal-Mart could sponsor a helluva pool tournament. I don't see Schon putting much back into the sport. IMHO.
Wal-Mart could sponsor a helluva pool tournament. I don't see Schon putting much back into the sport. IMHO.