bruin70 said originally that he realized jimbo was coming from a different point of view,,,that of changing ferrule/tip, and not of a simple ss/ivory test,,,,which is why bruin said he edited his original post, because bruin agreed that tip/ferrule DOES disguise the feel of the hit. jimbo was not paying attention as jimbo should. however jimbo later opened the door to current arguement.
From the beginning JimBo was saying that the Joint DOESN'T play as big a roll in the Hit and feel of the cue as other components (tip/ferrule/shaft). JimBo also said there are some cues that you would not be able to tell what type of joint they had.
if jimbo provides 10 cues with different shaft taqpers/ferrules/tips/cuemaker/etc etc,,,then test is rather pointless and unscientific, as variations in all those factors makes the test muddy.
Except for the fact that Bruin said it's easy to tell if you just paid attention. Ex. Sound,feel weight... I think he went as far as to say it would be easy (maybe someone else LOL)
bruin et al are saying we can tell the diff twixt ss and ivory, jimbo is saying "oh yeah, what if i put baby booties over tip/ferrule, can you tell THEN???",
Not at all, I have no need to switch or cover any tips with anything or change them, just some cues that I may or may not already have experience with. The point is either
1) It's easy to tell the difference
or
2) it's hard to tell what joint is on the cue.
The point was never if we can tell the difference if we took the same cue and changed the joint. That just isn't a viable argument.
blindfold not necessary if cues are generic maple/no butt/no wrap jusu sinple piece of wood. tester must cue properly.
Again this was never the point and this just isn't something that is going to happen any time soon, either the joint is a major factor and easy to distinguish or as I contend it's just not that big of a factor in the overall feel of a cue. Until you come up with a universal replaceable joint there is no way to have 2 cues exactly the same with different joints. Butt wood/ shaft wood, even tips are never 100% exact.
jimbo not providing test,,,jimbo wants to trick poor bruin with carnival shenanigans,
bruin70(first time ever refering to self in 3rd person)