J pechauer Cues , Are they decent for a Custom Cue or just another Factory deal

Hello , x


...not looking at any particular model just wondered if they are decent cues for the money ...

Sup PoolFan, just a hack here so grain of salt brotha,
I shoot with a Peach; wrapless, standard maple shaft, proprietary pro joint(stainless). My wife shoots a Viking: linen wrap, Vikore shaft, brassy metal? joint. Peach came with their medium tip, but constantly needed maintenance. I switched it out to a Tiger Everest, which is what the Viking came with so I could eliminate the tip as a variable in "type" of hit.
I would describe the hit of my Pechauer as stiff. Regardless of firmness of hit, unless I skull the ball, all I feel is pressure as I stroke through the cue ball.
From time to time, I'll shoot a few with my wife's Viking. I would liken it to a soft hit. As I stroke through the cue ball it almost feels like there is a spring compressing. Mayhaps it's just because I'm not used to it, but it's a little disconcerting.
As to the cause of the differences... Let me put on my speculation spectacles and gets to spectalating.
Tips: Pechauer tip left a lot to be desired. I get it. You are trying to save money and use scraps of crap to create everything in house. Little Yum-Yum's Everest lasted over twice as long. After changing the "Peach" to same tip didn't notice a marked difference between the two.
Shaft: I'd hope hard rock maple outta the forests of the North Coast would have a straight grain and transfer power. I looked into the Vikore before I got the cue for the little lady; it's a cross between an LD and a standard shaft due to an insert. McDermott has one that is almost identical. *The Vikore does deflect less on a straight on shot to the end rail using sidespin. Final verdict is that I believe the shaft has a great deal to deal with the difference in hit, but I can't interchange them because of the Pechauer proprietary joint, which is kind of a pain in the ass because it makes another measure of difference that I can't measure.
Joint: Pechauer is stainless and Viking is brass colored. I don't know, I ran to the scrap yard a while ago and there was a category labeled "brassy metal". When it comes to the fit the "Peach" wins out. I don't know how the hit is affected, although I would think that softer metal ='s softer hit. I think it's more of a a question of softer metal ='s cheaper to produce.
Wrap: I like the look and feel of a wrapless cues. I also want as little as possible between my fingertips and the cuetip. Pechauer offers a wide variety of wrapless cues. Viking wanted to charge $120 for a wrapless version of my wife's cue. I wish I would have paid it now because she likes the feel of a wrapless more than the Irish Linen, although I believe she prefers a softer hit overall that my Pechauer provides. Either way she prefers my shaft; something about the girth.
 
This pech is my daily shooter...I don't know a lot about cue specifics, but are these considered"rounded" points?
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This pech is my daily shooter...I don't know a lot about cue specifics, but are these considered"rounded" points?
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No. Those are sharp. Your points come to a sharp point, not rounded. Look at a current Schon, those points have rounded ends. Pretty easy to tell.
 
I remember playing a player named Black Larry in dallas

He had a Peach..

Only one I had ever seen

He beat me ,he credited the cue

we adjusted
 
Pechauer

I have two Schons, a Meucci, a McDermott and a Viking (plus my 55 year old Wille Hoppe). And these are what I have kept after 50 years of searching for the "perfect cue."

I know it is completely subjective and personal but here is how I rank the cues in terms of the mythical "hit."

Pechauer
Schon
Meucci
McDermott
Viking

My player is a Pechauer DEC3 with a Pechauer P+Pro shaft and my breaker is a Pechauer break cue.

I have used Predator 314, 314-2 and 314-3 shafts but now prefer the Pechauer P+Pro shaft.

I also have a Predator BK 3 but I prefer slightly the Pechauer break cue.

I also have a Pechauer Black Ice shaft but I can't get consistent good breaks with it but I think that is my fault.

Just my two cents.
 
Interesting insight Logandgriff.

I have a Pechauer that I had custom made back in '92. Before that I was hitting with Schon and Joss. The Pechauer was my main player for about a year until I found a different Schon that hit better.

I still have the Pechauer, but I rarely take it out of the bag. The joint pin has come unglued so when I take a shaft off, the pin comes with. It's a bit tricky to screw it back down into the butt.

From my distant memory - the hit was ok, but felt a bit hollow. The balance was good. The shaft taper was good. This was just as Predator was starting to shake up the shaft market. So, I can't remember if I played with the stock shaft all the time or not.

The one thing that was subpar was the wrap. Within a short time, the wrap became frayed and scratchy. My hands don't sweat that much. It's never happened to another linen wrapped cue that I've owned. I don't know if it was due to installation or some other factor. It's still that way today. If I ever get the joint pin fixed, I'll fix the wrap.

Based on your comments and others here on the forum, the newer Pechauers appear to be decent hitters. Maybe I'll pick up a lower end one and try it out, but I've been a bit gun shy about the brand.
 
Dear Mr BigFish23 -- I suggest you contact Pechauer about fixing your joint pin and putting on a new wrap. They charge very reasonable prices in my experience and do fantastic work.
 
Interesting insight Logandgriff.

I have a Pechauer that I had custom made back in '92. Before that I was hitting with Schon and Joss. The Pechauer was my main player for about a year until I found a different Schon that hit better.

I still have the Pechauer, but I rarely take it out of the bag. The joint pin has come unglued so when I take a shaft off, the pin comes with. It's a bit tricky to screw it back down into the butt.

From my distant memory - the hit was ok, but felt a bit hollow. The balance was good. The shaft taper was good. This was just as Predator was starting to shake up the shaft market. So, I can't remember if I played with the stock shaft all the time or not.

The one thing that was subpar was the wrap. Within a short time, the wrap became frayed and scratchy. My hands don't sweat that much. It's never happened to another linen wrapped cue that I've owned. I don't know if it was due to installation or some other factor. It's still that way today. If I ever get the joint pin fixed, I'll fix the wrap.

Based on your comments and others here on the forum, the newer Pechauers appear to be decent hitters. Maybe I'll pick up a lower end one and try it out, but I've been a bit gun shy about the brand.

Could you just screw the pin out just little and put some epoxy on it then screw it back in and let dry?
 
Could you just screw the pin out just little and put some epoxy on it then screw it back in and let dry?

I thought about that but I had read (I think on here) that it could cause issues because the epoxy or superglue or whatever is used may not have a way to escape and the result may be weakened. I think some cue builders drill an exit hole for the glue to seep out and then fill it in before final finishing the gloss.

I'm probably overthinking it.
 
I have several Pechauers and love them dearly... I prefer the low deflection shaft from Mezz (wx900)
But have the originals and have to say they are interchangeable as far as which shaft for which butt... and I cannot feel any difference in how they hit (at the same diameter of course). I have a couple smaller and they feel different (preferable) to me.
They have some of the prettiest maple I have seen on their cues!
 
Points & Veneers ......Take The Time & Do It Right.......Sharper The Better

Unless you are buying a catalog cue sitting in the cue maker’s inventory, if you request a cue to be made,
if it has points/veneers, they should be sharp or else the cue-maker wanted to save time or was just lazy.
 
I thought about that but I had read (I think on here) that it could cause issues because the epoxy or superglue or whatever is used may not have a way to escape and the result may be weakened. I think some cue builders drill an exit hole for the glue to seep out and then fill it in before final finishing the gloss.

I'm probably overthinking it.

Just need a drop or two.
Epoxy expands a bit so just a drop should hold it.
I would do it.
 
I have several Pechauers and love them dearly... I prefer the low deflection shaft from Mezz (wx900)
But have the originals and have to say they are interchangeable as far as which shaft for which butt...

So does the Mezz have Peach Pro joint or are these earlier models. I always hear about the Mezz wavy joint. I wouldn’t think they would be interchangeable at any production period.

When did Pechauer and Mezz start using their proprietary joints? Was there a time where you just worried about pin six, thread count, and matching diameter?
 
Mezz has two joints: United and Wavy. The United joint is basically a 5/16x14, which is used on many cues, like Schon, Joss, and Pechauer. You can use Mezz United shafts on many 5/16x14 cues, but you can't put 5/16x14 shafts on a Mezz pin.

Wavy is basically a 3/8x11, I think, but isn't really compatible with any joints out there.
 
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