Jack Hines Story.
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Big Bad Bern said:
Jack rates as one of the biggest 9ball strokes ever. Everything was at least two or three rail shape for him. He used to play with an 11mm ivory ferruled schon that made the best ping sound you ever heard. I seen him shot stroke shots that were unreal. For a short guy he had a masse shot cue ball frozen on the middle diamond of the head string and object ball froze on the middle diamond foot string. If you bet against 3 shots or gave 3 to 1 on the money you were bust.
I saw Jack play several times. When he had his "A" game going he was scary good. In 88 or 89 at the old Qmasters in Norfork during the US Open, I saw him run through "Hawaiian Brian" Hashimoto for a c note a rack. He fired in balls from everywhere at warp speed! After Brian quit, Jack asked who he was and upon finding out acted awe struck and said that Brian was a legend. I see him again about 7 years later in Lexington and he comes in second at a tourney at Steepleton's. He has this funny hump on his shoulder and I think maybe he is playing with some type of brace on. Finally something peeks its head out from the sweator and its an iguana!!
many years ago I was in a pool hall in one of the southern states.I and another pro player were shooting breeze.Then walks in our jack hines.Soon after entering he saw my friend and said in a very loud voice ``I will give you 6 and out``.My friend was a pro player and was well known.My friend replied ``come out side I will give you some LEAD ( my friend carries a pistol).Then jack shut up and did not say any thing.
JG-in-KY said:I saw Jack play several times. When he had his "A" game going he was scary good. In 88 or 89 at the old Qmasters in Norfork during the US Open, I saw him run through "Hawaiian Brian" Hashimoto for a c note a rack. He fired in balls from everywhere at warp speed! After Brian quit, Jack asked who he was and upon finding out acted awe struck and said that Brian was a legend. I see him again about 7 years later in Lexington and he comes in second at a tourney at Steepleton's.
I wasn't quite up to speed on all of the players in the later 1980's and I had heard little about Jack Hines. He was sitting at the bar at Rackateer's in New Orleans, alone and busted without money to buy a drink. I didn't now anything about him except that I had heard he was good pool player. I asked him if he was interested in trying to make a score at some of the bars across the river from New Orleans and he got a little bright-eyed and said SURE! So we hopped in my new 1988 Jeep Cherokee Laredo and went off bar-hopping. We found very little gambling anywhere we went and he and I both decided to go after the $5 a game eight ball challenge matches that were popular in the bars. On two different tables, after about an hour and half, Jack had lost about $15 and I had won about $25. I didn't understand why he couldn't beat the locals for cheap especially if he needed the money. The entire night Jack played 8 ball so poorly I could have given him ball in hand after the break and still beat him. I just assumed that someone was mistaken and that this wasn't "this good pool player" people were talking about. NO one had mentioned the medical problem he suffers with and so while I was trying to be a good guy and help a poolplayer get a few bucks in his pocket, I was disappointed to see his poor performance and really doubted if he was who he said he was.
Anyway, I give Jack my winnings and let him keep the remaining balance of what was left over from my original stake that I had given him and brought him back to Rackateer's and went home to sleep.
There are some other "accounts" about Jack that don't need to be told because I know that Jack knows who he has become and he doesn't like it either but understands how others might avoid him like the plague. No need to pile on anymore......
JoeyA
JoeyA said:JG-in-KY said:I saw Jack play several times. When he had his "A" game going he was scary good. In 88 or 89 at the old Qmasters in Norfork during the US Open, I saw him run through "Hawaiian Brian" Hashimoto for a c note a rack. He fired in balls from everywhere at warp speed! After Brian quit, Jack asked who he was and upon finding out acted awe struck and said that Brian was a legend. I see him again about 7 years later in Lexington and he comes in second at a tourney at Steepleton's.
I wasn't quite up to speed on all of the players in the later 1980's and I had heard little about Jack Hines. He was sitting at the bar at Rackateer's in New Orleans, alone and busted without money to buy a drink. I didn't now anything about him except that I had heard he was good pool player. I asked him if he was interested in trying to make a score at some of the bars across the river from New Orleans and he got a little bright-eyed and said SURE! So we hopped in my new 1988 Jeep Cherokee Laredo and went off bar-hopping. We found very little gambling anywhere we went and he and I both decided to go after the $5 a game eight ball challenge matches that were popular in the bars. On two different tables, after about an hour and half, Jack had lost about $15 and I had won about $25. I didn't understand why he couldn't beat the locals for cheap especially if he needed the money. The entire night Jack played 8 ball so poorly I could have given him ball in hand after the break and still beat him. I just assumed that someone was mistaken and that this wasn't "this good pool player" people were talking about. NO one had mentioned the medical problem he suffers with and so while I was trying to be a good guy and help a poolplayer get a few bucks in his pocket, I was disappointed to see his poor performance and really doubted if he was who he said he was.
Anyway, I give Jack my winnings and let him keep the remaining balance of what was left over from my original stake that I had given him and brought him back to Rackateer's and went home to sleep.
There are some other "accounts" about Jack that don't need to be told because I know that Jack knows who he has become and he doesn't like it either but understands how others might avoid him like the plague. No need to pile on anymore......
JoeyA
Enogh said,,,,Well said!!!
I've been seeing Jack a lot lately here in Arlington (Click's Billiards). He still plays decently, but I'm sure it's nowhere near what it used to be. I saw him shoot some incredible stroke shots, but when he was gambling he just didn't play "A" player speed.
I heard he recently asked Fat Ralph for the 7 and Fat Ralph replied, "the last time we played you gave me the 6!"
He's offered me outrageous spots, but I'm not looking for that type of game.
I'm suprised he can't find any backers these days, but after hearing some stories, I guess I can understand why. Pool hustling and gambling just isn't what it used to be I guess!
I heard he recently asked Fat Ralph for the 7 and Fat Ralph replied, "the last time we played you gave me the 6!"
He's offered me outrageous spots, but I'm not looking for that type of game.
I'm suprised he can't find any backers these days, but after hearing some stories, I guess I can understand why. Pool hustling and gambling just isn't what it used to be I guess!
KellySnead
Kelly Isaac
That was me and i probably was. I was around 19 or 20 and VERY naive when I met Jack. Going on the road with him was quite possible the craziest thing I have ever done. I almost completely ruined my life and it took me a long time to get away from him and an even longer time to recover. Needless to say my life is WAY different now. Im in good health, happy and JACK FREE. lol
Wow, you dug up this old thread from 2007!
You are obviously still into pool if your reading a pool forum, welcome aboard
Do you recall any good stories of Jack during your road trips?
We all know he got into drugs but sounds like he played really good before that....
Good for you. I searched your other post - are you a personal trainer?
Is Jack..............................?
still alive? I remember in early-mid 90's when he came thru Tulsa. One of those players that had the knack of making the BIG shot when he really needed it. Kind of a nut-job but really entertaining when he got it going.
still alive? I remember in early-mid 90's when he came thru Tulsa. One of those players that had the knack of making the BIG shot when he really needed it. Kind of a nut-job but really entertaining when he got it going.
Here's how Hines used to play, in case anyone wonders. This is the finals of the 1988 Ohio Open vs. Earl Strickland (the match is in 7 parts).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjeO7gm99BE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjeO7gm99BE
KellySnead
Kelly Isaac
Im am not. I am more of a motivator then personal trainer. At least I try to be. My last name is now Isaac (couldn't find a way to change it on here). Going through all the things that I went through because of my poor choices I try to show others that they can change their life. Im not always great with my words but I try my best
KellySnead
Kelly Isaac
Jack made me watch the stupid match 1000 times LOL.... After all those years that shot that Earl made still upset him. I wish I had that Accu-Stats video because the one on youtube is such poor quality
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GoldenFlash
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I am no "goody-goody two shoes".
But, I don't like pool players like this Jack Hines guy one bit. Those type are what has given the game of pool the crummy image it has.....a bunch of unremorseful ex-con, thieving, pool room bums. That's just my opinion and nobody has to agree.
Setting all that aside, however, losing a match because of a lucky shot like Strickland made to get out of that lead pipe cinch snooker would be something I'd probably never 'get over'.
About like a player drawing 3 cards to a flush and hitting it while the other guy has 3 aces going in and doesn't improve.
Ends up being just another bad beat story.
It's wonderful that you've changed your life and have gotten away from that seedy, dead end way of living.
Good for you.
KellySnead
Kelly Isaac
Oh I completely agree with you on everything you said. Even though I know Jack and know more of his personal story it doesnt make it okay or justify any of his behavior one bit. Its sad really. All that talent. Not only that but he had talent in everything he did, from bowling, to golf and one hell of a chess player also. I learned a lot about my game from his but I also learned on how NOT to be in life. I knew the things we were doing was wrong but went along with it anyhow. That makes me just as bad I guess but thank goodness those years are behind me.