Jam

[JimBo]

Erm, what did you think "people like JAM" meant? I meant that there have been a few high profile posters who have taken breaks from posting or cut down the amount of posts they've made here of late. I was using JAM as an example of someone who is taking a break/cutting back on her posts.

Chris.

I wasn't sure, maybe you've met her or read her other stuff, say on RSB. But YOU meant *high profile*

OK?

Jim

 

[chrstc]

I wasn't sure, maybe you've met her or read her other stuff, say on RSB. But YOU meant *high profile*

OK?

Jim

Hello,
Look I'm Mr. Swiss neutrality here- I don't like making enemies full stop. When I said high profile I simply meant that JAM is one of the most recognisable posters around here because of her tournament reports etc. By high profile I certainly DIDN'T mean attention seeking, self-obsessed or whatever else you might be trying to suggest I did. I hope that's perfectly clear to all concerned.
I was just trying to calm everything down a little bit with that post this evening. Obviously I failed!

Thanks,
Chris.

 

[JimBo]

[/B]

You state that I am "always crying about how the pool world" is doing me wrong. Most of the time when I participated on AzBilliards Discussion Forum on a regular basis, I tried to contribute some upbeat threads, laced with pictures and trip reports. Is there a reason that you desire to make me out to look as if I am "always crying about how the pool world" is doing me wrong?

You cry about things you have no clue about (pool and racks)

My opinion is, in fact, that you are coming onto a thread entitled "Jam" and attempting to flame me, no matter how subtle or how direct.

No flame, just a different opinion sorry I don't think that people should keep giving Ronnie money because he was once a great pool player and is a great story teller. Sorry I think people who can't make money doing something they love should get JOBS. Sorry I don't feel so bad for a group of people who wreck every great oppertunity they've ever had.



I love being a big shot? A big shot at what on a pool forum, pray tell? I don't even shoot pool anymore. Please explain how it is that I "love being a big shot."

And BTW, who cares if you'll know that I'll always be here? What in the hell does that mean?

JAM

Yes a big shot, you get to write an article in a magazine pretending to be someone you are not, you've carried it over to here and you pretend to have a clue about pool. It's clear you have no clue, but as I've already said your reports from the road are great, stick to those and you have no problems. The perspective of a girlfriend of a player and the pictures are what you are good at, when you pretend to know who's cheating and the other pool stuff you will be outted as the clueless person you are.

Jim

 

[JimBo]

Hello,
Look I'm Mr. Swiss neutrality here- I don't like making enemies full stop. When I said high profile I simply meant that JAM is one of the most recognisable posters around here because of her tournament reports etc. By high profile I certainly DIDN'T mean attention seeking, self-obsessed or whatever else you might be trying to suggest I did. I hope that's perfectly clear to all concerned.
I was just trying to calm everything down a little bit with that post this evening. Obviously I failed!

Thanks,
Chris.

I didn't assume to know what you meant, that's why I asked. Please don't read into what I am trying to suggest, my posts are often quite clear and if not just ask and I'll explain. I am not one to beat around the bush.

Jim

 

[JAM]

Okay. Let me try to understand this thoroughly. I see that you have modified or edited your above post after I replied by adding some more negativity to this thread.

JimBo says to me: Because I agree with another posters comments?? My style is honest Jenny, something you are not used to. Your posts and thoughts are all slanted and in many cases rediculous. Sure your recaps and tourney updates are great stick to them since the rest is clueless.

I interpret the above post to be derogatory in nature and intentionally targeted at me. I don't appreciate you, JimBo, stating to me that I am not used to honesty. It is insulting to me, to say the least.

I also resent you stating my posts and thoughts "are all slanted and in many cases rediculous [sic]." My thoughts and posts are just that, mine. I do not, however, post in a manner to target somebody, like you are currently doing to me, in an effort to cause anger or hurt feelings. There is nothing wrong with being honest, but when you target me, the way in which you have on this thread, it is insulting and I am not going to read it and not respond, as I have in the past, without commenting.

JimBo says to me: That's good, it's hard to debate what I say when anyone with common sense would agree with me, but you can keep lending money to RA.

I never stated on this thread or on any other thread that I have loaned money to RA. Is there a reason that you would state that I "keep lending money to RA"? I don't understand your comment here, other than it is sarcastic and nasty.

JimBo says to me: You can ignore or reply, but I stand behind my opinions, sorry I don't kiss your ass like many here.

It is this ending comment that I find very insulting and, in some respects, it is harassment. You can certainly stand behind your opinions and I can choose to ignore or reply, but to state "I don't kiss your ass like many here" is in very poor taste, IMHO.

You know, I don't want to turn this thread into a flame. I find it very distasteful and offensive, though. I'm not sure what the recourse is, but I will not ignore the negative comments directed at me anymore.

JAM

 

[chrstc]

I didn't assume to know what you meant, that's why I asked. Please don't read into what I am trying to suggest, my posts are often quite clear and if not just ask and I'll explain. I am not one to beat around the bush.

Jim

Hello,
Ok. Fine. As I say I don't want to make any more enemies than I already have I've obviously made the situation worse when I was hoping to help cool it down. Time for bed methinks!

Thanks,
Chris.

 

[JAM]

Yes a big shot, you get to write an article in a magazine pretending to be someone you are not, you've carried it over to here and you pretend to have a clue about pool.

Let me understand this thoroughly, once more.

You are stating that I think that I am a big shot because of my association with InsidePOOL as a writer with Keith. Is that what you are referring to? And if so, how have I carried it over here?

I do resent you saying that I am pretending to have a clue about pool. In some instances, I may know quite a bit more than you, only because of my age. However, why would you make such a rotten statement about me? This doesn't have anything to do with honesty or stating one's opinion. This is intentional harassment on your end towards me.

It's clear you have no clue, but as I've already said your reports from the road are great, stick to those and you have no problems. The perspective of a girlfriend of a player and the pictures are what you are good at, when you pretend to know who's cheating and the other pool stuff you will be outted as the clueless person you are.

I actually will continue doing what I like doing, JimBo, but for you to state that I am pretending and that I am clueless, it is truly offensive to me personally.

JAM

 

[uwate]

I read AZB forums alot and JAM remains one of my favorite posters because she truly loves the game and it shows. The pics and the tournament and action reports she gives are great. In fact, while im thinking about it Im going to give her some positive rep right now.

JAM just use the ignore feature.

 

[JAM]

I read AZB forums alot and JAM remains one of my favorite posters because she truly loves the game and it shows. The pics and the tournament and action reports she gives are great. In fact, while im thinking about it Im going to give her some positive rep right now.

JAM just use the ignore feature.

I used to just ignore this particular poster manually when his posts had been directed at me or about me on AzBilliards Discussion Forum in the past, but no more. I do not think it is customary for one to post in this manner when their only intent is to flame, but when it happens on a repetitive basis, I think, as they say, the record speaks for itself.

Thanks for the kind words, Uwate. BTW, if I've never said it before, I love that avatar of yours!

JAM

 

[JimBo]

I read AZB forums alot and JAM remains one of my favorite posters because she truly loves the game and it shows. The pics and the tournament and action reports she gives are great. In fact, while im thinking about it Im going to give her some positive rep right now.

JAM just use the ignore feature.

I agree with you 100% on both accounts.

Jim

 

[straybullet]

I used to just ignore this particular poster manually when his posts had been directed at me or about me on AzBilliards Discussion Forum in the past, but no more. I do not think it is customary for one to post in this manner when their only intent is to flame, but when it happens on a repetitive basis, I think, as they say, the record speaks for itself.

Thanks for the kind words, Uwate. BTW, if I've never said it before, I love that avatar of yours!

JAM

JAM

I think the problem is in people's perception of how you write certain things. I have never met you or Keith, I have never spoken to you. All I know is the words you put here. To me, sometimes it comes across as syrupy and phony, but then again, I don't know you at all and my opinion is flawed because of that. You an I had a big disagreement a few months back over something extremely silly and in the end I was brutalized by other forum members for disagreeing with you and before the week was over I was banned. I look back now and I can see where I was wrong, and hopefully you can recognize your part as well. For me its just history and I leave it there. I hope that its not a major forum offense to disagree with another person and to express that honestly. IMO, you take some opinions to heart. Just remember - its just words on a screen.

Now I am not the best example of pristine-angelic-sinless forum behavior . That's not a secret. I do, however, speak my mind. I'm honest and that's the only way that I know how to be. That's just me. I make no excuses for that. Some people enjoy my participation here, some people think I'm a bytch and that I should stay on RSB fighting with Looney Toon Bubba (FL). FWIW, that's life - it doesn't bother me really - my life is not defined by what people think about me in an internet pool forum. I think by this point in your life you should care less what people think about you - hold your head high - and do what you do and the hell with providing anybody an explanation for it. You bring a lot to this forum, especially when you write from your gut and from your heart. Just be yourself and if people don't like it, screw 'em.

 

[JimBo]

I actually will continue doing what I like doing, JimBo, but for you to state that I am pretending and that I am clueless, it is truly offensive to me personally.

JAM

I hope you do, your posts when doing an update from the tournament are some of the best. I enjoy to read them myself. What bothers me is when you make silly claims as if you know something about pool on a pro level. You insulted people for telling *TRUE* stories about RA stealing (yes it's stealing) money from them. Is it not ok for these people to share their stories or just for you? Are their stories more derogatory then your story about young guns on pills or giving bad racks, or trying to hustle on a golf course?? The fact is it's no surprise to anyone that your rants revolve around bad racks since the weak part of KM's game is his break. Sure there are drugs on the pool scene, do you think they weren't there when KM or RA were the age of the kids you are bad mouthing?? Cory (I forgot, you won't name names LOL) is trying to hustle on a golf course?? This is a bad thing?? Do you really believe RA and KM never tried to hustle anyone?? Oh it was on a pool table that makes it fine I guess. If you want to take my post as a Flame then I guess there isn't much I can do and if you read these words about your post and can't see where one might take your words as hypocritical. I'm really sorry you feel my opinions are so bad or disrespectful, but opinions are like @$$holes...

Jim

PS you keep saying you aren't going to ignore my posts anymore, but all you are doing is copying them in an attempt to cry about me to the moderator, if you have issue with anything I've written above feel free to PM me and get this off the forum. Keep up the good posts Jenny.

 

[JAM]

JAM

I think the problem is in people's perception of how you write certain things. I have never met you or Keith, I have never spoken to you. All I know is the words you put here. To me, sometimes it comes across as syrupy and phony...You bring a lot to this forum, especially when you write from your gut and from your heart. Just be yourself and if people don't like it, screw 'em.

Interesting thoughts, and your opinion is duly noted. Thanks for contributing your opinion on the Jam thread.

It seems that you are stating the words I put here, sometimes coming across as syrupy and phony, also bring a lot to this forum, especially when I write from my gut and from my heart.

I am myself, Straybullet, and to date, the only one who brings up the "incident" between you and me is, quite frankly, you.

I don't take issue with people stating their opinions, Straybullet. Maybe I didn't choose my words as carefully as I thought I had in the previous posts on this thread. I think it is great that there is a forum which invites back-and-forth about a variety of pool topics, but when a poster, such as JimBo, targets me personally on a repeated basis, I choose not to ignore him anymore.

So, in sum, Straybullet, I am being myself, I don't like it, and, yes, screw him. I will not ignore and hope the continual harassment will cease. I certainly do not think it is appropriate for me to ignore if I am being targeted in the manner in which JimBo has chosen to post about ME on this thread.

JAM

 

[1pRoscoe]

Ladies, ladies!!! You're both pretty!!!

and for the record, I really love lamp...

 

[JimBo]

I don't take issue with people stating their opinions, I think it is great that there is a forum which invites back-and-forth about a variety of pool topics, but when a poster, such as JimBo, targets me personally on a repeated basis, I choose not to ignore him anymore.

, screw him. I will not ignore and hope the continual harassment will cease. I certainly do not think it is appropriate for me to ignore if I am being targeted in the manner in which JimBo has chosen to post about ME on this thread.

JAM

I love how in the first paragraph you *claim* you think it's great to have back and forth, but then you go on to say unless it's me disagreeing with you LOL. Also you keep making this claim that I am targeting you, and continually harassing you. I doubt in the past year you can find 3 threads where I even posted in that were about you or started by you, so how much am I really *targeting* you???
Again honest escapes you and the term hypocrite comes to mind.

Jim

 

[JAM]

Now comes the time when JimBo will dissect my very words of every post on this thread, and I will respond in kind.

I hope you do, your posts when doing an update from the tournament are some of the best. I enjoy to read them myself. What bothers me is when you make silly claims as if you know something about pool on a pro level.

I know a little bit about something on the pro level, having attended a few events in my time, and for you to state I am making "silly claims" may be your opinion, but it is insulting, as is the tone of the rest of the posts you have made on this thread.

You insulted people for telling *TRUE* stories about RA stealing (yes it's stealing) money from them.

Who did I insult? Before you tell me I have a reading comprehension problem, something you are wont to do when one disagrees with you, please name the person that I insulted.

Is it not ok for these people to share their stories or just for you? Are their stories more derogatory then your story about young guns on pills or giving bad racks, or trying to hustle on a golf course?? The fact is it's no surprise to anyone that your rants revolve around bad racks since the weak part of KM's game is his break.

Well, not quite, JimBo. There are other aspects that revolve around the bad rack which doesn't have anything to do with KM's break. I thought I posted about it earlier in the thread. At this juncture, am I supposed to cut-and-paste the quoted material and then wait for another nasty response from you? Seems like a waste of time.

Let's see. Let me address the next issue.

Sure there are drugs on the pool scene, do you think they weren't there when KM or RA were the age of the kids you are bad mouthing??

Actually, JimBo, there were more drugs on the scene when KM and RA were of the age of the kids you state I am bad-mouthing. I know this because I grew up in the same era as Keith, the Woodstock generation. Need I say more?

Cory (I forgot, you won't name names LOL) is trying to hustle on a golf course?? This is a bad thing??

Maybe you didn't get a chance to read earlier in the thread, but I was not stating anything about Corey Deuel at all as it pertains to the rack. In fact, I stated I admired his ability to perfect his break. Maybe you just missed that portion of this thread in your haste to flame the fire on this thread currently.

Do you really believe RA and KM never tried to hustle anyone?? Oh it was on a pool table that makes it fine I guess. If you want to take my post as a Flame then I guess there isn't much I can do and if you read these words about your post and can't see where one might take your words as hypocritical. I'm really sorry you feel my opinions are so bad or disrespectful, but opinions are like @$$holes...

As it pertains to RA and KM hustling, it doesn't have anything to do with my post that you initially addressed. Yet, you have taken my words, twisted them around, and now come up with this slop.

Is that word "hypocritical" a favorite of yours? You seem to use it quite often.

PS you keep saying you aren't going to ignore my posts anymore, but all you are doing is copying them in an attempt to cry about me to the moderator, if you have issue with anything I've written above feel free to PM me and get this off the forum. Keep up the good posts Jenny.

Why should I PM you privately and off the forum, JimBo, when you are posting on this thread labeled "Jam"? I think it appropriate to respond to you directly in the manner in which you posted to me.

Do you think I am copying your negative and harassing statements to me, JimBo, in an attempt to cry about you to the moderator? Maybe you should refrain from the intentional harassment of me. That may help calm the waters, but I can tell you this, I ain't ignoring your ugly comments about me or mine anymore.

JAM

 

[JimBo]

, yes, screw him.
JAM

I find this hurtfull and profane, I wish something would be done to stop these types of words from being used here. I disagreed with some of what you wrote but I never lowered myself to swear words like this. Where will it end?

Jim <-----When it turns to this I'm done.

 

[JAM]

I love how in the first paragraph you *claim* you think it's great to have back and forth, but then you go on to say unless it's me disagreeing with you LOL. Also you keep making this claim that I am targeting you, and continually harassing you. I doubt in the past year you can find 3 threads where I even posted in that were about you or started by you, so how much am I really *targeting* you???
Again honest escapes you and the term hypocrite comes to mind.

Jim

JimBo, where you may have a slight misunderstanding is that what is going on now in this thread is not a "back-and-forth." It is, in fact, you creating a flame and fanning the fires. Normally, as I have stated repeatedly on this thread, I have chosen to ignore you in the past when you have targeted me and/or mine. However, since you continue post on this thread in a derogatory manner, I think the "back-and-forth" has been replaced with intentional harassment. Let the reader of the thread decide for themselves.

Ah, there's the word "hypocrite" again. I wish I had a quarter for every time I have read that word in one of your posts.

JAM

 

[1pRoscoe]

When the game is over, can we have some ring-dings and milk?

 

[JAM]

When the game is over, can we have some ring-dings and milk?

The game is over.