Jay Helfert says 'Every other day to keep your speed up'...

I'm not a great player but when I watch live streams and see world class players practicing between matches they run balls. If they missed a particular shot they will set it up and practice it but mostly they run balls. I don't ever remember seeing a guy doing drills.

I do the same, or might even push the ball(if it hung up) in and keep running just to get into the groove.
Jason
 
I'm looking at it differently. I want to pick my speed up. I'm getting a table. My plan is to work my way through Capelle's Practicing Pool front to back. I'll work on it most everyday.
 
Last edited:
I once asked Dave Hemmah how long it took him to get in stroke. He said about 12 hours.

If you haven't been playing, that's about the quickest way to get back in stroke.
I always like to tell a story relating to a subject if possible. In this case i was playing in the Bank Pool division in Lexington, KY (mid 80's) and drew Earl in the first round. Back then we played a Race to Five 9-Ball Banks. Earl blew me out in maybe thirty minutes! I was so pissed I stayed up all night hitting balls until I found my game. The next afternoon I played Mike Lebron and beat him 5-2. In the evening I played Freddie and won 5-3. The next day I beat Louie Lemke 5-4 to get into the money. My last match was with Dave Bollman. It went 4-4 and I was running out off the break and needed one ball. I could have played safe but felt so good that I went for an off angle long rail bank where I had to turn the cue ball loose. I made it! And scratched three rails in the corner. Dave came back to win the game and knock me out. :frown:
 
I'm not a great player but when I watch live streams and see world class players practicing between matches they run balls. If they missed a particular shot they will set it up and practice it but mostly they run balls. I don't ever remember seeing a guy doing drills.

Depends on a few things like what your definition of "drills" is, but for me drills are something do you as part of your practice routine at the pool room or at home in between bouts of competitive pool. The purpose is to work on certain skills to improve over the long run.

Between or before matches at an event I just like to run balls or shoot some long straight ins to get the feel and to get my arm loose. I'm not really running through my practice routine. PGA Tour players take a similar approach. They work on their swing mechanics and putting strokes when they aren't at an event (mostly), but on the range at an event they are mostly just getting warmed up, reinforcing good habits, and feeling comfortable.
 
To those who responded, are you simply racking balls and shooting them down, or are you doing drills,
or some combination of the two?

When I was playing a lot of 9 ball I just threw the balls out and ran them out. Sometimes I racked and broke but more often then not I just threw the balls back on the table over and over. These days I don't play 9 ball any more and just throw out all 15 balls and run them. Sometimes I go for a Straight Pool key ball and break ball and set up and break and run til I miss and sometimes I just hit the balls. I NEVER do drills and never have.
 
How would Jay know? He plays about once a month if he's lucky.

JoeyA
 
How would Jay know? He plays about once a month if he's lucky.

JoeyA

Less now since arthritis kicked in (elbow and shoulder joints). My pool career is pretty much over, not that it was anything to brag about anyway. Heck, I even lost to Joey A! :thumbup:
 
Last edited:
Less now since arthritis kicked in. My pool career is pretty much over, not that it was anything to brag about anyway. Heck, I even lost to Joey A! :thumbup:

Don't have it in my hands so I would notice, so it's not bad yet, though my knee and hips give me enough trouble:rolleyes:
 
Less now since arthritis kicked in (elbow and shoulder joints). My pool career is pretty much over, not that it was anything to brag about anyway. Heck, I even lost to Joey A! :thumbup:

Who's he anyway?

Send in the Meloxicam. I've been on it for about 8 years. No side effects either. Couldn't play pool without it.

JoeyA
 
Less now since arthritis kicked in (elbow and shoulder joints). My pool career is pretty much over, not that it was anything to brag about anyway. Heck, I even lost to Joey A! :thumbup:

Mine is over. COPD has become quite a bit worse. I was able to play a rack or two a day. Now, I am lucky to shoot one rack a week. Too hard to go down to the basement and back up again. Can't go out anymore, been out of the house twice since Sept. And, one rack is tough enough on the breathing. Yet, yesterday I did get in one rack. Broke it an ran out.

My theory is this- as long as you KNOW just what your fundamentals are, and have practiced them diligently, then layoffs only count towards speed control. However, if one doesn't KNOW their fundamentals, then it will take some practice to get back in stroke. How long that is depends on the individual.
 
I was watching a 2016 USBTC match the other day. While enjoying the match as well as Jay Helfert and Bobby Leblanc's excellent commentary, Jay mentions hitting the balls at least every other day is sufficient to keep your pool playing speed (aka skill level) up. I thought that sounds pretty good. I always told myself, "I've got to hit balls every single day to keep my speed up", which can be a pain. As well as pretty much unobtainable for me, as real-life has a nasty habit of creeping in and taking up my precious pool playing time.

So my query for you guys is, how much play do you need every other day to keep your present speed up?

Just for clarification, I'm not saying improving your play. Just sustaining your current speed. Also, I would assume the better the player the less required practice.

I'm sure there will be lots of "Play as much as you can!". Yes, I know that. I'm posting this question for the sake of argument and to see what others think. I personally make myself practice for an hour when I can get some play in.

I haven't read all the posts so sorry if someone already mentioned this but I think it depends on your mechanics...

If you have textbook mechanics you can probably get away with a few hours a week to maintain your speed; however, those of us with more unorthodox mechanics probably need more like 30 - 60 minutes a day.

My personal experience is that I have unorthodox mechanics and I took a few years off; after 7 months back playing my game is 60- 70% back wondering if I will ever get back to my regular game.

In contrast, my best friend, who has great mechanics, seems to play pretty much the same no matter how often he plays. I am sure, he plays at a higher level when he plays more often but the variance is not as noticeable.

Another example is golf, he quit playing golf for years but came back hitting the low to mid 80's very quickly because he has very good mechanics (for an amateur).
 
I don't know...for me sometimes no pool for awhile is better than 4 hours a day. Like with typing...I stopped completely for a month or so and then typed the fastest speed in my life on typeracer...and now my average speed is my previous high speed.
 
I think that if your game is on the improve, you need to play every day and settle into a practicing groove that works for you. If you are in the maintenance mode and want to retain skills then every other day will work. Lastly, if I'm getting to play a tournament or gamble some then I practice every day.
 
For me, it is all about the quality of the practice time. Striving to practice as I would like to play, it is simply - visualize, commit, and trust.
 
If you already know how to aim, pocket balls, stand, stroke, play position....and all of the above, and if you practice a 100 hours a week....and still miss shots that you should have made, then where is the flaw in your game that a few hours a week of practice won't help over come? The practice of..... concentration and the ability to stay focused, THAT is what you practice!

Amen to that! I can play fairly well for 2-3 hours but if I do well in a tournament that started at 10:30 and after winning three matches and it's 2:00 and they tell me my next match is at 4:30, I usually go home because I know I'm toast. Some lucky dude gets a bye. Wish there was a way to play tournaments in 3-4 hours like a golf round.
Also, my teacher would tell you that you'd be better off to practice with drills like kicking, safeties, back cuts, in the jaws position to every place on the table, etc. instead of "playing" pool. He provides the drills for me but I think they are out there for everyone.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top