Jayson Shaw’s 832 World Record is Official

Scrunge19 said:
I don’t think there’s a pro alive outside of maybe John Schmidt who spares a second thought about Jayson having this record. Fair play to Jayson, it’s certainly an impressive feat, but I don’t think most of the pool world really cares about this record. Certainly not enough to spend time trying to beat it.
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I think the obsession re: a total run # has produced a perverted outlook. The object of straight pool is to WIN, and running 150 & out from the break is the epitome, something that seems entirely feasible on the V.B. Diamond tournament tables, BTW.
I‘ve always aspired to become a ‘hundred ball runner’, but running out from the break on a tough table would likely be a prouder accomplishment for me than any personal high-run record #. I would like to see pro player stats on how many have done THAT!
 
wrldpro said:
What are buckets?
Jaysons 832 was on a standard gold crown 4.9 corners and 5.3 side pockets.The same tables we all grew up playing on and are still in more poolrooms than any other pool tables made.
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I kind of doubt that either of those statements are true. I have never in my life played on a table with 4.9" pockets. Even rarer in the south to even see a gold crown.

Not that any of that has anything to do with the run. The original record was set on a similar table, so this record is just as legit.

Jayson didn't do 832 in 2 days either, this was his second attempt at a record. Again, zero to do with the record breaking run, give credit where it is due.
 
Fatboy said:
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With permission I’m posting this pic from Jayson’s run.

This is the only real trouble Jayson had after his break shot about 500 balls into the run. I don’t have my notes with me to give the exact rack number that I have written down. Was under 526 balls but over 500.

Can you find the shot? I actually saw it before he shot it. Which was pretty cool I thought, I’m not a good 14.1 player. But once in a while I get lucky.

Best
Fatboy😃
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Wow, it looks like he is stuck, within that cluster, with no shot, other then a thin cut on that one stripe (looks like it might be the 13 ball?). Wow, I wonder how he got in that position, and how he was able to get out of it.
 
Windows open!

Nobody is gonna get up and run 1000 this week, month, year
vintagecollectibles831 said:
Wow, it looks like he is stuck, within that cluster, with no shot, other than a thin cut on that one stripe (looks like it might be the 13 ball?). Wow, I wonder how he got in that position, and how he was able to get out of it.
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that was his only bad break(as I can recall) and yes he crosses the 13 and it goes/ it was about the only real trouble he was ever in. When he missed it was a lapse in judgment not in a bad trap like here.

You’ll see when the video comes out this week or next week. They are working on that now-player review from Jayson which is being recorded very soon.

It’s worth the watch and seems like a hour, it’s not a slow boring grind.

Best
Fatboy 😃😃
 
Fatboy said:
that was his only bad break(as I can recall) and yes he crosses the 13 and it goes/ it was about the only real trouble he was ever in. When he missed it was a lapse in judgment not in a bad trap like here.
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there was another bad break / leave where he played a carom, iirc. one of the last racks?
 
skogstokig said:
there was another bad break / leave where he played a carom, iirc. one of the last racks?
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Possibly, I don’t have my notes here and I’ve only watched it twice. Nothing was serious as that trap in the pic I posted.

He did have one other break that wasn’t easy and one early on that he could have ended up glued to the rack(around rack 14 or 15) the CB got knocked away last second.

Otherwise what stood out to me watching it live was the BIH shape on almost every break, adjusting the break ball ball as Bob correctly noted. I knew something special was happening and it did. Sure he got lucky a couple times, but to run 800+ anyone has to catch a roll now and then. How few Jayson caught was amazing and ofc zero bad rolls.

It was the perfect storm, proper equipment (all balls always rolled straight) no funny bounces, properly hand racked, didn’t wipe the CB off one time. Nothing got wiped, juiced, cleaned (except his shaft) it was pure pool room style pool. Not a laboratory experiment. That impressed me.

Sure the table is soft by modern standards, but 14.1 has been played 70-&0+ years on similar equipment. The cloth is faster now and yes that helps a lot. But it’s a fair setup and a real run. And no I’m not a shill or paid for saying this. I’m a life long pool player who was lucky to see it happen. And hell yeah I’m pumped up💪💪.

Best
Fatboy🤩
 
ChrisinNC said:
I don’t know if any player has the perseverance or stamina to match Jayson’s. It would have to be a very fast paced player like Filler.
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That’s what I find amazing. Making balls on these tables with the size pockets compared to the 4 inch pockets he’s used to is child’s play. It’s like playing on a valley for him. The focus and stamina to do it our goat level. I know I said it before but the most my misses in straight pool are silly misses that wouldn’t happen in 8 ball or 9 ball because they are short games and your focused But it’s so easy for your brain to let down in straight pool because it’s a marathon not a sprint.
 
wrldpro said:
What are buckets?
Jaysons 832 was on a standard gold crown 4.9 corners and 5.3 side pockets.The same tables we all grew up playing on and are still in more poolrooms than any other pool tables made.
Diamonds are not the only tables made. Some tourneys are even played on 4 inch pockets.
It’s all pretty simple if anybody has anything to complain about they can get any table with the same specs or smaller and get whoever they want to beat Jaysons 832.
I’m willing to bet any sizeable wager that no one can do it in 2 days like Jayson did. How about 100k bet and I’ll put up 250k to yours or anybody else’s 100k.
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Well they play on 4 inch pockets now so they are buckets to him. He barely has to aim. lol hell I play on 4.25 with my home table. they focus and stamina are what‘s impressive . He barely has to aim on pockets that size.
 
trob said:
Well they play on 4 inch pockets now so they are buckets to him. He barely has to aim. lol hell I play on 4.25 with my home table. they focus and stamina are what‘s impressive . He barely has to aim on pockets that size.
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josh filler was asked in commentary yesterday (EC final konrad vs kasper) if he had attempted a high run in straight pool. he said he had some years ago, 311 on his table with 4.125" pockets. i presume it's his gabriels griffon table.

were some interesting takeaways from mr filler. he didn't compete in the EC because his federation didn't support him. but is there for pia. also said he loved 14.1 most growing up but that his favorite game now is:

one pocket

as it should be 😀
 
skogstokig said:
josh filler was asked in commentary yesterday (EC final konrad vs kasper) if he had attempted a high run in straight pool. he said he had some years ago, 311 on his table with 4.125" pockets. i presume it's his gabriels griffon table.

were some interesting takeaways from mr filler. he didn't compete in the EC because his federation didn't support him. but is there for pia. also said he loved 14.1 most growing up but that his favorite game now is:

one pocket

as it should be 😀
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By the way it didn’t say it in that post. I wasn’t crapping on the accomplishment . Anyone who has played straight pool knows that concentration is the hardest part. It’s so easy to get lackadaisical and miss an easy shot you would never miss playing 9 ball. The focus to run that many balls is beyond comprehension.
 
trob said:
By the way it didn’t say it in that post. I wasn’t crapping on the accomplishment . Anyone who has played straight pool knows that concentration is the hardest part. It’s so easy to get lackadaisical and miss an easy shot you would never miss playing 9 ball. The focus to run that many balls is beyond comprehension.
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yea no doubt. i was just connecting the pocket size discussion to what filler said in the commbox. 311 on 4" is impressive, but it didn't sound like he was into high runs. i like his 14.1 game a lot, probably my favorite to watch (aside from his tendency to do the toastie break).
 
Bob Jewett said:
Yup
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He may have.

But... he has never released -- in spite of a serious financial proffer -- an unedited recording of his run for a thorough examination. Yes, the BCA reviewed it but it has never been given the same level of scrutiny that Shaw's runs have.

Not only would I be looking for fouls but I would especially be looking at whether the balls were racked high, low, and/or twisted to accommodate his break balls. There is at least one video out there that shows, that on occasion, he has been way less than exacting in this regard and, IMO, that would bring things into question.

Lou Figueroa
 
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