Jayson Shaw’s World Record 714 High Run Video

Fatboy said:
All due respect to the BCA, I’m not in need of their confirmation of any record that was recorded. When the 627th ball was pocketed the record was broken. When the 715th ball was missed the record was defined and established.

Good enough for me 68 days ago.

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Fatboy<——-thinks for him self
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I don't want to bring up table specifications in detail, as there is more than enough threads on that here.
I see the previous record was classified in the high run at a exhibition vs. professional play.
Makes me wonder if there should be a couple of categories.

1. High run on non standard equipment, at an exhibition etc. Which is where current and previous record sits in the modern era to compare to a documented World standard (WPA, BCA same thing when you read the specs)
Just means Mosconi's long standing record sits here anyway. Exhibition.

2. High run record on professional standard table. Official record.
Take Snooker for example, all records set are on the same standard tables and they already split records between official and exhibition.

In both cases, it would be good to see some Womans records set as well.
Then some other notable categories, such as Juniors, Seniors etc.

The last couple of events have been, well, a circus.
The last one more so, with all the fuss over John's table, you then don't make it crystal clear and maybe get the table fully specified and documented before the event. Oh dear. Even a pre-submitted set of evidence to BCA would have stopped all the drama over this latest run by Shaw.
Easy these days to measure accurately and even laser scan corner and middle pockets. Nobody would argue with that. Ha ha.
 
What's 626 + 714?
Past and current straight pool world record holders John Schmidt and Jayson Shaw connect.

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John: My threads on AZ Billiards have the most posts!
Jayson: All good buddy, you can have that one.
 
Just curious: Shouldn’t there be some rule/provision relating to pro 14.1 tournaments concerning extending runs after a match victory? Obviously, since few games go past 200 points, records set during competition are limited, and time schedules are generally too tight for 700-plus runs. But, shouldn’t some official provision designate exceptions that would force tournament organizers to allow say, a 150 or 200-and-out run to continue? Sanctioning rules would likely thus put to rest all the petty bickering (?).
 
DynoDan said:
Just curious: Shouldn’t there be some rule/provision relating to pro 14.1 tournaments concerning extending runs after a match victory? Obviously, since few games go past 200 points, records set during competition are limited, and time schedules are generally too tight for 700-plus runs. But, shouldn’t some official provision designate exceptions that would force tournament organizers to allow say, a 150 or 200-and-out run to continue? Sanctioning rules would likely thus put to rest all the petty bickering (?).
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Last year at the American 14.1 event they allowed 100+ ball runs to continue. But since these matches were played on 4.5” diamonds, I don’t think anyone is worried about 700+ ball runs. Or even 300+.
 
Cameron Smith said:
Last year at the American 14.1 event they allowed 100+ ball runs to continue. But since these matches were played on 4.5” diamonds, I don’t think anyone is worried about 700+ ball runs. Or even 300+.
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Any continued run would have to be considered an exhibition run. I think 300 is possible on a 4.5 Diamond, especially if the current set of rotation players start to do better patterns.

In general continuing runs is a problem for scheduling matches. It is interesting to the audience.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Any continued run would have to be considered an exhibition run. I think 300 is possible on a 4.5 Diamond, especially if the current set of rotation players start to do better patterns.

In general continuing runs is a problem for scheduling matches. It is interesting to the audience.
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But think of the publicity coup. If someone broke the ‘competition’ record, your venue would surely benefit. All these ‘exhibition’ pseudo-records’ are just noise.
BTW: 100 balls is nothing, considering current pro talent (even on a Diamond). Schedules be damned. Anyone in sanctioned world-class 14.1 competition that runs over 150/200 (match length) & out should be allowed to continue (mandated). Especially those whose safety play stratagem has them starting in the hole.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Any continued run would have to be considered an exhibition run. I think 300 is possible on a 4.5 Diamond, especially if the current set of rotation players start to do better patterns.

In general continuing runs is a problem for scheduling matches. It is interesting to the audience.
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In just a few days of qualifying at the last DCC 14.1 challenge, on tight Diamond tables, Filler ran 285 and Orcullo ran 260. I doubt either had more than fifteen attempts. I think both are capable of way more than that, even on a tight Diamond.

Agreed that balls run after a match is over constitute an exhibition, not a competitive run.

Darren Appleton's competitive record of 200 will last a long time unless they start playing longer races. Of course, the highlight of Appleton's run was when Bustamante swept the balls after Darren made his 200th to end the match. I once asked Jose Parica what his high run and when he said it was 200, I asked "Exactly 200?" and he then added "the game was over". Pro pool is about winning, not about how many you run, and the Filipinos seem to understand this best.
 
sjm said:
In just a few days of qualifying at the last DCC 14.1 challenge, on tight Diamond tables, Filler ran 285 and Orcullo ran 260. I doubt either had more than fifteen attempts. I think both are capable of way more than that, even on a tight Diamond.

Agreed that balls run after a match is over constitute an exhibition, not a competitive run.

Darren Appleton's competitive record of 200 will last a long time unless they start playing longer races. Of course, the highlight of Appleton's run was when Bustamante swept the balls after Darren made his 200th to end the match. I once asked Jose Parica what his high run and when he said it was 200, I asked "Exactly 200?" and he then added "the game was over". Pro pool is about winning, not about how many you run, and the Filipinos seem to understand this best.
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True that any excess over the official ‘match’ length isn’t considered ‘competition’, but why must that be the case? If someone runs OVER 150/200 & out to win, why not make a rule allowing the opponent to answer after the miss? If HE should then run 150/200+ and exceed the initial record run, and on & on/back & forth, the initial run could then arguably be considered official ‘competition’ (due to the available option). The player with the highest total score before the start of the last run-exceeding failure would be declared the victor.
While admittedly a super-unlikely event, it would probably be such a spectacular milestone in billiards history, that cancelling/rescheduling the rest of the tournament (due to the time lost) might be deservedly justified, and no player lucky enough to be a witness would likely thus complain about the inconvenience😁.
 
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DynoDan said:
True that any excess over the official ‘match’ length isn’t considered ‘competition’, but why must that be the case? If someone runs OVER 150/200 & out to win, why not make a rule allowing the opponent to answer after the miss? If HE should then run 150/200+ and exceed the initial record run, and on & on/back & forth, the initial run could then arguably be considered official ‘competition’ (due to the available option).
While admittedly a super-unlikely event, it would probably be such a spectacular milestone in billiards history, that cancelling/rescheduling the rest of the tournament (due to the time lost) might be deservedly justified, and no player lucky enough to be a witness would likely thus complain about the inconvenience😁.
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Sounds like fun. Count me in!
 

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wrldpro said:

Jayson Shaw’s World Record 714 High Run Video USB or DVD only Now Available for only 60.00​


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*****Now Available***** Jayson Shaw’s World Record 714 High Run on DVD or USB Thumb drive ONLY 60.00 shipping included USA International ADD 20.00 SHIPPING PAYPAL at jaysonshaw88@yahoo.com Or CASHAPP at $JAYSONSHAW714 Please leave your name, address & Your choice of DVD Or USB in comments...
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So, $60 delivered DVD? I’m considering it (seeing is believing).
 
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BTW: What IS the official competition record? Has anyone ever run out from the hole in a 200 point match? My proposed ‘extension’ option (previous post) might more likely tempt players who think they are having a really good day to intentionally foul into a minus score, if the prospect of breaking a world high-run competition record especially appealed (?).
 
DynoDan said:
BTW: What IS the official competition record? Has anyone ever run out from the hole in a 200 point match? My proposed ‘extension’ option (previous post) might more likely tempt players who think they are having a really good day to intentionally foul into a minus score, if the prospect of breaking a world high-run competition record especially appealed (?).
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I think it is pretty widely considered that Darren Appleton holds the tournament record. He ran 200 and out in a semifinal match against Bustamante in the 2013 World Tournament.
 
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