Jayson Shaw 714 World Record 2 years ago

Willie’s 8’ table & bucket pockets are always mentioned.
What I’ve never seen mention of is whether the balls & table were cleaned for him through out the run.
 
maha said:
... the new world records which have beaten his were not open to the public to watch as they were happening in person. why?
and the pocket sizes and other conditions were not inspected nor divulged.
in essence there is no world record for high run of balls. and cant be until they set a standard which will endure for time and each whom attempts it will follow it.
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Both Schmidt's and Shaw's runs were open for viewing for anyone who was interested. For John's you would have had to go to Monterey, CA, and gone into the pool room. I'm sure you would have been welcomed, especially if you had brought muffins. Jayson's run was streamed live and I believe you could have witnessed live if you had gone to the venue.

I have seen the video recordings of both videos unedited. I am satisfied that both runs are legit (with Jayson's shortened to 669 due to the minor touch foul on shot 45).

The BCA has published guidelines for such exhibition high runs in Dec 2022 (after both runs) and I think both runs complied with those requirements.
 
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bob, please publish or a link to the guidelines for a world record high run.
that includes pocket dimensions, table size, cloth, equipment, starting position of balls, and fouls allowed or not, and some kind of weather conditions.
and whether it must be played in a tournament or a public place, or exhibition of some kind.

in other words a comprehensive set of conditions that all must follow to be equal.

and i do believe both can beat the present number if they put in the time and effort. but why not make it so it isn't disputable.
 
based on attempts and some of the longer runs. a rough guess would be 200 attempts for players of his caliber to get to 700 balls
would be relatively easy.
 
maha said:
and the pocket sizes and other conditions were not inspected nor divulged
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Those conditions and more were certainly divulged in Jayson’s run; did you read the article?

Jayson Shaw’s new high run record was played at Street Light Billiards Academy in Alexandria, Virginia, with an all-wood Peri Cue, Kamui chalk and a Kamui glove and played on an unheated 4.5’ x 9’ Brunswick Gold Crown III pocket billiard table on Green Simonis 760 cloth with 4.9” corner pocket openings and 5.3” side pocket openings. Shaw used Aramith TV Tournament pool balls, with a perma-rack and a standard 14.1 outline on the cloth.
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yes i did. and are those standard conditions for high runs now? if so fine. but also fine tune them a bit and then its certainly okay.

also should high run attempts count on equipment that isn't used in tournament play ?
to be clear i am asking for making a standard to follow for it, not saying it wasn't the high run.

should 4.9 inch pockets be the standard" and 5.3 sides. super fast 760 cloth. and perhaps the room was temperature and humidity set up for the event. i dont know.
 
Texas Carom Club said:
Ever heard of fox? Lol

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To be fair, that looks like it was a local Fox affiliate (Channel 61) in Connecticut, near where Jaysons pool room is. So while its cool that it was covered, that is a local interest story to that area. If you weren't in CT, you wouldn't have seen that. Now that story from them is on YouTube, but that wasn't a national story for "Fox".
 
justadub said:
To be fair, that looks like it was a local Fox affiliate (Channel 61) in Connecticut, near where Jaysons pool room is. So while its cool that it was covered, that is a local interest story to that area. If you weren't in CT, you wouldn't have seen that. Now that story from them is on YouTube, but that wasn't a national story for "Fox".
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Doesn’t need to be national story nor was this a news coverage competition
 
maha said:
yes i did. and are those standard conditions for high runs now? if so fine. but also fine tune them a bit and then its certainly okay.

also should high run attempts count on equipment that isn't used in tournament play ?
to be clear i am asking for making a standard to follow for it, not saying it wasn't the high run.

should 4.9 inch pockets be the standard" and 5.3 sides. super fast 760 cloth. and perhaps the room was temperature and humidity set up for the event. i dont know.
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Yes this will be the standard for all the legends of Pocket Billiards events. The weather was terrible as we had a snow and ice storm and it was very cold out side and Inside the room. Definitely not ideal conditions and no air adjustments at all. And certainly no table heaters.
 
Oikawa said:
Is there a commonly agreed upon maximum pocket size for 14.1 record attempts? Obviously I can't create a table with 20 inch pockets and make a 1000 ball run on it and be taken seriously, but where's the upper limit of what's commonly accepted?
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Standard gold crown 3 specs were used for Jaysons 714, Shane's 308 and Ruslans 266.
 
maha said:
based on attempts and some of the longer runs. a rough guess would be 200 attempts for players of his caliber to get to 700 balls
would be relatively easy.
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Id give you all the players you can find 200 attempts to break 700 and you can bet any amount you can post up.
 
so you would bet against him as well to do it in 200 attempts? that is what you are saying.
 
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