Real classy there tramp. You are wrong, so you insult me to feel better.
Jesse james one handed player
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Real classy there tramp. You are wrong, so you insult me to feel better.
I don't think Jesse was attempting to fool anybody with the video from the first post. I am certain he would be the first to admit it took many takes spliced together to look like it was continuous. In fact, I think he assumed that fact was so abundantly obvious (his cutaways were super obvious plus nobody would every really believe this was possible etc) that there was no need to explicitly state it.
Each shot was very impressive on it's own, and to splice them altogether as if there were no missed attempts was done tongue in cheek just to make a cool looking video. He knew good and well that it would obvious to everybody that it wasn't one continuous take, and that was his intent. Make something cool from a lot of individual shots that were impressive on their own.
Each shot was very impressive on it's own, and to splice them altogether as if there were no missed attempts was done tongue in cheek just to make a cool looking video. He knew good and well that it would obvious to everybody that it wasn't one continuous take, and that was his intent. Make something cool from a lot of individual shots that were impressive on their own.
He's the best player in his area with two hands at most games....
....and he hung with Martinez ( 4 games down after a few hours) at one-pocket.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=236871
I have found him to be honest...with a good sense of humor....
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...=C4mVJJotSBqf5AxZDkVA9w&bvm=bv.99804247,d.cWw
I watch Ronnie Allen play Efren Reyes 15 ball rotation in the late 80s for 1,300 a game (as I recall) at the Sports Arena in Anaheim Hills, CA. They were playing one hand in the air (including the break) and I saw Efren break and run out to 61 points. Efren won the match as Ronnie Allen quit.
I know Jesse Allred very well and he played on the same APA Master team as I did. Jesse is a very good player (short stop speed - and could be world class if given the opportunity). His one handed game is exceptional and is probably one of the best in the world today. I don't know how he would do gambling big money however since I haven't seen him play for big money.
You couldn't ask for a nicer guy than Jesse Allred. I have felt very luck to meet Jesse in my life and only look forward to see him again someday. He is the nicest guy I have ever met in the pool world.
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He also placed well in the 2002 Reno open (his first big tournament) using two hands. See post #3 in this thread for the payout list and look at all the quality players he had a higher finish than in a pretty tough field.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=250967
I recall several mentions of it in Freddy's Encyclopedia of Pool Hustlers
I guess you guys think we're weird for using undersized cue balls 
This post of his needs to be read again by many...
05-19-2011, 07:39 PM
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It depends on what stage of things you are in. If you are in the learning stage, as in trying to incorporate something new into your game, your practice time should be about 80% of your table time. If you are practicing to maintain your game, about 20% does fine. And if you have hit a problem you are trying to fix, shift back to that 80% until you resolve the problem.
Remember that the purpose of practice is to get better. But the purpose of all of it is so you can play the game. That's where the competition comes in. If someone spent a year, locked in their basement practicing, what would be the point? They might get really good at practicing, but so what? If you aren't playing, there is no point in practicing.
Steve
Steve, although that seems like it would make sense and it is what almost everyone advocates I don't entirely agree with you. If you are trying to fix any fundamental errors in your game, practice has to be 100% of the time until that error is fixed and a new muscle memory pathway is created. As soon as you go back to playing another person, for money, tournament or fun for that 20% of the time you slip back into your bad habits and undo any progress made.
After ten years of trying to practice and incorporate it into gambling with better players, etc I was getting nowhere and was an average player. 6 months of nothing but drills and I returned to playing as one of the top players in the area. I made $7,000 gambling and in tournaments the first month back from my training break and from then on I was one of the top players wherever I moved to. There is no faster way that I can think of to become a great player. The other method may keep the majority of people interested in the game, but it will take 10 times as long to improve.
click here to check out the amazing new video!
The One-Handed Pool Hustler
Last edited by JesseAllred; 05-19-2011 at 07:46 PM.
05-19-2011, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pooltchr View Post
It depends on what stage of things you are in. If you are in the learning stage, as in trying to incorporate something new into your game, your practice time should be about 80% of your table time. If you are practicing to maintain your game, about 20% does fine. And if you have hit a problem you are trying to fix, shift back to that 80% until you resolve the problem.
Remember that the purpose of practice is to get better. But the purpose of all of it is so you can play the game. That's where the competition comes in. If someone spent a year, locked in their basement practicing, what would be the point? They might get really good at practicing, but so what? If you aren't playing, there is no point in practicing.
Steve
Steve, although that seems like it would make sense and it is what almost everyone advocates I don't entirely agree with you. If you are trying to fix any fundamental errors in your game, practice has to be 100% of the time until that error is fixed and a new muscle memory pathway is created. As soon as you go back to playing another person, for money, tournament or fun for that 20% of the time you slip back into your bad habits and undo any progress made.
After ten years of trying to practice and incorporate it into gambling with better players, etc I was getting nowhere and was an average player. 6 months of nothing but drills and I returned to playing as one of the top players in the area. I made $7,000 gambling and in tournaments the first month back from my training break and from then on I was one of the top players wherever I moved to. There is no faster way that I can think of to become a great player. The other method may keep the majority of people interested in the game, but it will take 10 times as long to improve.
click here to check out the amazing new video!
The One-Handed Pool Hustler
Last edited by JesseAllred; 05-19-2011 at 07:46 PM.
Keith came into my office yesterday and said, "Have you read AzBilliards today?" I replied, "Well, yeah, sort of. I scanned it to see if there was any new pool news or happenings." He then said, "You gotta see this thread about the one-handed player. I've never seen anything like this before." I said, "Come on. He can't be as good as Geese or Ronnie Allen." Keith retorted, "Oh, yes, he is. You got to see it. Best I've ever seen. This guy is the real deal. It was phenomenal."
So there you have it from the mouth of a not-so-shabby one-handed player himself, the Earthquake.
So there you have it from the mouth of a not-so-shabby one-handed player himself, the Earthquake.
Ask Keith if he would like to get into action with this guy and let me know his answer.
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He's always impressed me, if no one else. And I'd like to know which drills he did for 6 months..
Thanx for the info on Jesse.
...but I would like to point that Ronnie Allen in the 80s was not Ronnie in his prime....
...he was not a good aged player....had a rough lifestyle.
Thank you for posting...some of the people on this board amaze me (not in the good way). I read some of his posts on here and he seemed like a nice down to earth player.
I agree with Neil....this post needs re-reading.
I had experience with this method when I was 20....took three months off from gambling.
....just practice and thinking ....came back three levels higher.
I remember when I first watched Jesse's videos, I was so impressed I called in my children and my wife to watch them with me and none of them really play pool at all. All them were like wtf? omg!
Watching them again, im still impressed. I dont care if he edited them and took 1000 tries to get the shot, im still impressed. He has a helluva stroke one handed and plays jacked up one handed better than anyone I have ever seen.
There is one guy in south florida, Shawn Fortin, that use to show off firing in jacked up one handed behind the back length of the table draw shots. He also shot one handed jacked up jump shots where he would jump a ball in and draw the cueball back 15 feet back and up. And Ive watched guys at the derby gambling one handed so its not like ive been living in a cave and have never seen incredible one handed shots either.
Watching them again, im still impressed. I dont care if he edited them and took 1000 tries to get the shot, im still impressed. He has a helluva stroke one handed and plays jacked up one handed better than anyone I have ever seen.
There is one guy in south florida, Shawn Fortin, that use to show off firing in jacked up one handed behind the back length of the table draw shots. He also shot one handed jacked up jump shots where he would jump a ball in and draw the cueball back 15 feet back and up. And Ive watched guys at the derby gambling one handed so its not like ive been living in a cave and have never seen incredible one handed shots either.
He openly admits that they are edited, so I wouldn't say they can not be trusted.