Joe Rogan wanting to help support our sport and TAR
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How about each of the 4 guys all travelling to different cities each week for matches against pre determined players. Each match being worth say $5000. If they win they accumulate the cash to their bank roll. If they lose they deduct it. If the guy they meet up against wins he gets the cash(that way there is incentive for him to win). They travel around to 5 or 6 cities each and all meet up at one location in the end to see who has the biggest bank roll. Along the way you could talk to the guys on the road about who they are going to play. If they've ever played them before ect. Im sure at each pool hall they visited they'd have no problem generating a crowd to watch the match. With 4 guys in different locations each week you'd have plenty of clips to fill up an hour show. The first part of the show talking about where they're going and who there playing. Then them getting to the hall, meeting everyone and setting up the match. Play the match and show them hitting the road for the next stop.
At the end whoever has the biggest bank roll gets to keep it. They could even have a mini tourney at the end for bonus cash to add to the bank roll.
At the end whoever has the biggest bank roll gets to keep it. They could even have a mini tourney at the end for bonus cash to add to the bank roll.
ScottW said:
u could do the show with ring games where everyone pays after each game instead of just keeping track on a scorecard or whatever. but how would gambling on tv work tho? im thinking u cant just get on tv and start gambling. and if there are permits and stuff involved then each player's winnings get taxed?
ScottW said:What happens when they lose it all the first night?
They would either have to obtain a "walking stick" or hock their cue. Remember this is reality show, and that is REALITY!
I really like IBA's idea, but I do not think that it would have enough fan base/viewers to support it. IMO
I think in a BD couple of years back was mention of a pool with the stars type thing, not sure if it's the same show. Some random B and C level stars were playing with a player partner. What they need to do is to integrate some nice billiard related storylines in tv shows or movies. Not in a "lets go to the pool hall to find the bad guy" but a full story. Maybe a Law and Order where some pool player gets killed outside a hall with 5,000 on him, or a Lost episode where a pool table mysteriously appears on the beach. Well.. maybe not the Lost idea...
BANK POOL RING GAMES!!!
1. Fast and easy for non pool players to understand and watch.
2. Big money. When poker became big on tv, a lot of non players got in
to it because of the big prize money.
3. Watch last years DCC Bank Pool Ring game (part 3) on utube, when
Brian Gregg makes a big come back. I still get goose bumps when
I watch it.
For pool to make it on tv, it has to be appealing to non pool players also. If you really think about what made poker take off, you can do the same with pool.
1. Fast and easy for non pool players to understand and watch.
2. Big money. When poker became big on tv, a lot of non players got in
to it because of the big prize money.
3. Watch last years DCC Bank Pool Ring game (part 3) on utube, when
Brian Gregg makes a big come back. I still get goose bumps when
I watch it.
For pool to make it on tv, it has to be appealing to non pool players also. If you really think about what made poker take off, you can do the same with pool.
Harley316 said:
I think part of the excitement that would bring viewers would be a lack of predetermination. Sure have it set for guys there willing to match up, but don't prearrange games.
Part of the fun would be to see the woofing. Basically, seeing what player could best get the cash. The games making will come into play as well. The local player will offer a game that they think they can win and try to take the cash.
This type of thing might make the local player not want to give the money away and make a harder game for the guys on the show. This will also help to eliminate players as they stick their neck out trying to win a game they can't.
This might even be a way to replace guys that go bust, let the local player that beat them replace them.
Here's few problems I had with the latest IPT Match.
Having the audience sit around the Pool Table, with their legs or arms crossed, reminded me of 6-8 Army Colonels court-martialing a Private. That was a bad scene & the people were obviously uncomfortable with that scenario. I would have
them sitting behind a nice set of Bar Tables, on Bar Stools, standing up, leaning on one another or whatever people do in that situation. Let them drink their Cocktails, Beer or Coca-Cola & light their Cigarettes & Cigars, if they so choose.
Have some nifty ambient lighting so the atmosphere is an Upscale Speak-Easy, with a Gambling match going on, while the surrounding sweaters are watching. Interview the Players & the audience & talk about their families, their Pool Gear & their lives. Get personal?
Grady & Mike bantered back & forth, just like they do in any Pool Venue, they have their quotations they have to repeat, ?Watch this, he?s gonna shoot the 4, 7, 3, 5 & go two rails for the 8 in the side?. If this Run-Out is accomplished in this manner, then Mikey is right on target with the winner of the game. If this isn't the sequence, then Mikey has to cover his tracks & reiterate the correct sequence. That kind of commentating is nonsense & it?s a carbon-copy of yesterday?s losing commentary. Those two clowns may be yesterday?s Pool Players, but they ain't commentators. Their egos won?t let them be upstaged by the performing players on the stage.
Get rid of Pool Players for commentators. Forget about a sterile environment. This is a Pool Game, for money. The LOSER get's nothing, not even an after-match interview. Get 3-4 good conversationalists (with lapel-mics & understand Pool) & let them roam around through the seated audience & discuss the game & the bet. Let the Stakehorses & other members of the audience (betters) talk about the game & the way the match is proceeding. Show the money being bet on each & every game & the final payout. They can even use some bad-language (semi-bad) to describe the goings-on. Maybe a few jokes about yesteryear's matches, player personalities, player likes or dislikes.
Talk with the player's & their coach between games, allow the audience to become part of the game & the goings-on. That will develop a scenario for the TV audience to be incorporated into the scene. When that happens, you are a winner.
Sell the next match's seating on the AZ Website. There a lots of folks that would give their eye-teeth to be there & put their 2 cents in. Involve some real Stakehorses in this venue. Let somebody else put up the money to pay for Johhny & Earl to fly in & eat at the Ritz. Have a Pro-Am Partner's match for a starter, maybe a short race to 5. There are lots of Amateurs that will pay a nice sum to be part of that format. Let them send their money in & draw the winner from a hat (by some high breasted bimbo)
This is just a few ideas to ponder, let's see some action...
Having the audience sit around the Pool Table, with their legs or arms crossed, reminded me of 6-8 Army Colonels court-martialing a Private. That was a bad scene & the people were obviously uncomfortable with that scenario. I would have
them sitting behind a nice set of Bar Tables, on Bar Stools, standing up, leaning on one another or whatever people do in that situation. Let them drink their Cocktails, Beer or Coca-Cola & light their Cigarettes & Cigars, if they so choose.
Have some nifty ambient lighting so the atmosphere is an Upscale Speak-Easy, with a Gambling match going on, while the surrounding sweaters are watching. Interview the Players & the audience & talk about their families, their Pool Gear & their lives. Get personal?
Grady & Mike bantered back & forth, just like they do in any Pool Venue, they have their quotations they have to repeat, ?Watch this, he?s gonna shoot the 4, 7, 3, 5 & go two rails for the 8 in the side?. If this Run-Out is accomplished in this manner, then Mikey is right on target with the winner of the game. If this isn't the sequence, then Mikey has to cover his tracks & reiterate the correct sequence. That kind of commentating is nonsense & it?s a carbon-copy of yesterday?s losing commentary. Those two clowns may be yesterday?s Pool Players, but they ain't commentators. Their egos won?t let them be upstaged by the performing players on the stage.
Get rid of Pool Players for commentators. Forget about a sterile environment. This is a Pool Game, for money. The LOSER get's nothing, not even an after-match interview. Get 3-4 good conversationalists (with lapel-mics & understand Pool) & let them roam around through the seated audience & discuss the game & the bet. Let the Stakehorses & other members of the audience (betters) talk about the game & the way the match is proceeding. Show the money being bet on each & every game & the final payout. They can even use some bad-language (semi-bad) to describe the goings-on. Maybe a few jokes about yesteryear's matches, player personalities, player likes or dislikes.
Talk with the player's & their coach between games, allow the audience to become part of the game & the goings-on. That will develop a scenario for the TV audience to be incorporated into the scene. When that happens, you are a winner.
Sell the next match's seating on the AZ Website. There a lots of folks that would give their eye-teeth to be there & put their 2 cents in. Involve some real Stakehorses in this venue. Let somebody else put up the money to pay for Johhny & Earl to fly in & eat at the Ritz. Have a Pro-Am Partner's match for a starter, maybe a short race to 5. There are lots of Amateurs that will pay a nice sum to be part of that format. Let them send their money in & draw the winner from a hat (by some high breasted bimbo)
This is just a few ideas to ponder, let's see some action...
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How does this stand up?
Why not let the public put a friendly wager on the match? Could be consider the vote, If I put $50 even up on lets say SVB. He wins I get $80 back and he get $20 from the friendly wager. Just a thought. It could get the $$ way up and the players would get a piece whatever % that is. Any thoughts on that? Is it legal?
Why not let the public put a friendly wager on the match? Could be consider the vote, If I put $50 even up on lets say SVB. He wins I get $80 back and he get $20 from the friendly wager. Just a thought. It could get the $$ way up and the players would get a piece whatever % that is. Any thoughts on that? Is it legal?
What pool needs is a good, exciting TV show, preferably about gambling.
That's what the public is interested in when it comes to poker, and that's what they're interested in when it comes to pool.
The idea that some have that gambling is seedy and low class only really applies to gambling that IS seedy and low class.
If done with personality and professionalism the way it's handled in poker I think it could be what gets people interested in it.
That, and maybe somehow work hot chicks into the equation
That's what the public is interested in when it comes to poker, and that's what they're interested in when it comes to pool.
The idea that some have that gambling is seedy and low class only really applies to gambling that IS seedy and low class.
If done with personality and professionalism the way it's handled in poker I think it could be what gets people interested in it.
That, and maybe somehow work hot chicks into the equation