Joe Tucker Racking Secrets?

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DrCue'sProtege

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whats everybody's opinion of this book? is it worthwhile? will it help one get better spreads? i notice it says "Racking" secrets and not "Breaking" secrets.

if its shortcuts regarding the tricky little things you can do to a rack that might not be legal i am not much interested. if it tells you the bottom ball and the wing ball in the 2nd row usually come downtable i already know that.

i want to know if its worthwhile to buy. people on here recommended reading "Pleasures Of Small Motions" and it was a completely worthless read.

how about some straight scoop this time, gents. it would be appreciated.

DCP
 
An excellent book and a gret value. Joe shares the results of his research on the rack, shows what information can be drawn from gaps found in the rack, and teaches you how to protect yourself from bad racks.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
if its shortcuts regarding the tricky little things you can do to a rack that might not be legal i am not much interested.
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It does...in a sense. If you know the tricky things that might make a rack illegal, you will know what to look out for. Joe definetely suggest that you personally do not rack illegal. I have not read much of this book, but I know there are a lot of great opinions about it.

DrCue'sProtege said:
people on here recommended reading "Pleasures Of Small Motions" and it was a completely worthless read.
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Personally, I don't understand how anybody cannot find this an interesting read. Yes....it's a little hard to follow and sometimes you have to re-read a sentence here and there to fully understand it, but I am only half way through chapter four and look forward to reading a little every night, right before bed. I think the more open minded you are, the more receptive you will be when reading this great book, but to each his own.

Good luck in your quest,
Mattman
 
If "The pleasures of small motions" was a waste of time for you, any book would be a waste of time for you. Find the best best player you can and bet everything you have on one game and be done with pool.
 
Tucker: the hardest working man in pool

I bought Joe's book some years ago and was amaised at some of the lessons it offered. He has spent so many hours studying break patterns that he has actually offered a system that predicts break outcome. This predates the "repeatable precision" of some modern racks, and takes into consideration the effect of the balls when not perfectly frozen. Reading it allowed me to adjust my break spot to increase the number of corner balls I made. It taught me to guard against the slug rack and it gave me some insights into the order I should rack the balls for 9-ball. Thus making make my opponent's runout more difficult.

I watched Scott Frost play a challenger at the US Open a few years ago and that opponent consistently made a ball and left the one and two ball in the same area of the table...rack after rack after rack. Scott eventually picked up on the move and requested that the 2 ball be placed in the rear of the rack. His opponent failed to runout and momentum never returned to him. Frost won by understanding the racking secret and by running out when he needed to!

Tucker is onto something and has labored to explain it so anyone can understand it. When I met him and talked about his book, he credited Nick Varner as having been one of his readers before publication. The book has something to say. I would be very surprised to hear that you learned nothing from it. For me, it was a very good investment.
 
Drawman623 said:
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I watched Scott Frost play a challenger at the US Open a few years ago and that opponent consistently made a ball and left the one and two ball in the same area of the table...rack after rack after rack. Scott eventually picked up on the move and requested that the 2 ball be placed in the rear of the rack. His opponent failed to runout and momentum never returned to him. Frost won by understanding the racking secret and by running out when he needed to!
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you mean to tell me the Tournament Director allowed the balls to be racked the way Scott Frost wanted them racked???

DCP
 
get the movie

DCP,

From what I have read of your posts you should have been able to benefit from the pleasure of small motions although it isn't a book I'm real fond of because I think it dwells too much on getting rid of the negative and stops short of what you really need to be a champion. You may want to revisit the book if it has been awhile.

Joe Tucker has racking secrets as a two DVD set too if things haven't changed. I think that racking secrets are those things that there is so much visual information involved that the DVD's are better than any book could be. The old adage is "one picture is worth a thousand words" so how much are the thousands of images on a DVD worth.

I can tell you that my percentage of balls on the break went up after watching the DVD's and I like sloppy racks now. Almost always when someone is trying to play racking games you can exploit their actions to your advantage.

Hu


DrCue'sProtege said:
whats everybody's opinion of this book? is it worthwhile? will it help one get better spreads? i notice it says "Racking" secrets and not "Breaking" secrets.

DCP
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Dcp

Hey DCP,

Glad to see you are back to your little posts. Have you ever heard of the search option?

This has been talked about over, and over again!

Oh well I forgot you don't comprehend what you read. I also forgot you already know everything too! I mean you already said you know how to rack them, so why waste your money right? LOL

How about this though, Racking Secrets is too complicated for you and so is this game. Sell your table and take up needle work or something! :D

P.S. It is a really good thing to know the Racking Secrets!
 
txplshrk said:
Hey DCP,

Glad to see you are back to your little posts. Have you ever heard of the search option?

This has been talked about over, and over again!

Oh well I forgot you don't comprehend what you read. I also forgot you already know everything too! I mean you already said you know how to rack them, so why waste your money right? LOL

How about this though, Racking Secrets is too complicated for you and so is this game. Sell your table and take up needle work or something! :D

P.S. It is a really good thing to know the Racking Secrets!
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lol, i think u shouldn't be so hard on our buddy DCP here, after all the guy did go what a week or 2 without really making a new redundant thread? out of respect i think we should at least allow him another redundant thread or 2 until we decide to make fun of him
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Johnson said:
lol, i think u shouldn't be so hard on our buddy DCP here, after all the guy did go what a week or 2 without really making a new redundant thread? out of respect i think we should at least allow him another redundant thread or 2 until we decide to make fun of him
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The redundant thread isn't what really bothered me. What bothers me is that he doesn't listen to anyone anyway. So why is he even asking questions? Why ask questions you don't really want the answer to?

He already stated that he already knows how to rack the 9 ball so that the 1 goes up table and the 2 stays down the table. Sounds to me he doesn't want to learn anything else about the rack. He also sounds like he really wants a book or dvd that is breaking secrets!

So why would he even ask if it isn't what he wants an answer to? This is typical DCP, I mean he even said the Pleasure of Small Motions was a worthless read, so we see again that he can't open his mind enough to see the value of a book like that. Maybe the Pleasures of Small Motions was worthless to him, but I don't want him on here in a week or two crying that Joe Tucker's racking secrets is worthless, and that he didn't get anything out of it. He should quit wasting his money on tools that he isn't going to use!

So I say again DCP forget this game and go crochet or something!
 
txplshrk said:
The redundant thread isn't what really bothered me. What bothers me is that he doesn't listen to anyone anyway. So why is he even asking questions? Why ask questions you don't really want the answer to?
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You know that he will not listen to you, so why are you always answering his thread? I'm a bit tired of reading the same things everytime DCP post a thread. Why are you not leaving him in peace? I'm sure that you are bored when he does'nt post for few days. The redundance of this kind of comment disturb me much more than those of DCP's post. JMO.
 
Racking Secrets DVD is incredible. I have it and it is great... should you take the time to learn the things Joe mentions.

The DVD teaches you about the gaps and what gap has a greater chance of pocketing what ball etc etc, not just racking order, but what to look at when racking. Chances are that right now you make sure the 1 ball is touching the 2 balls behind it and are happy, then wonder why you have slugged yourself or didnt make anything... watching the DVD will change that should you decide to experiment with the things Joe mentions in the DVD. Not everything will go the way Joe makes it go. You have to tweak your own break to know how to make those balls.

Along the lines of saying Pleasures of Small Motions is a worthless read you can read the reviews of the book here...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cu...=283155&qid=1190638342&sr=8-1#customerReviews

I'm willing to bet that you didnt read the entire thing and just dismissed it as a bunch of psychobabble bullshit rather then taking any of it to heart.

You really should quit pool you know... it's not the game for you... get a Wii or something, they are fun.
 
If it is breaking secrets you want look into the book "The Great Break Shot" by Charlie "BreakRak" Bond. There was also a link posted here a while back to the latest BD article on the top 28 breaking tips from the pros. Good stuff. Get the Racking Secrets DVD, Charlies book, and a BreakRak and you will be well on your way to sucessful breaking.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
people on here recommended reading "Pleasures Of Small Motions" and it was a completely worthless read.

how about some straight scoop this time, gents. it would be appreciated.
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I'm predicting that everything you read or hear will be completely worthless, you tend to make it that way. I have just started Small Motions and am looking forward to getting back at it this evening. I do agree that the book is not for everyone, especially those who cannot be honest with themselves.

Dave
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
whats everybody's opinion of this book? is it worthwhile? will it help one get better spreads? i notice it says "Racking" secrets and not "Breaking" secrets.

if its shortcuts regarding the tricky little things you can do to a rack that might not be legal i am not much interested. if it tells you the bottom ball and the wing ball in the 2nd row usually come downtable i already know that.

i want to know if its worthwhile to buy. people on here recommended reading "Pleasures Of Small Motions" and it was a completely worthless read.

how about some straight scoop this time, gents. it would be appreciated.

DCP
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You probably didn't understand the Pleasures of Small Motions because you are, unfortunately, mentally challenged. You either get it or you don't - there is no boring to it! I can tell by all of your questions that you just don't get it - and that includes everything.

And, with that in mind, I would get Joe Tucker's DVDs. Reading doesn't seem to be your forte. I really enjoyed Joe's Racking Secrets DVD.
 
My prediction...

He will get a copy of racking secrets read/watch it and then try it and have it not work out for him because any results in pool are not instantaneous and then declare it was worthless because he thinks he knows better and Joe Tucker has it all wrong.
 
Icon of Sin said:
My prediction...

He will get a copy of racking secrets read/watch it and then try it and have it not work out for him because any results in pool are not instantaneous and then declare it was worthless because he thinks he knows better and Joe Tucker has it all wrong.
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And then he'll suggest he should become a teacher and help out Allison Fisher :)
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
if it tells you the bottom ball and the wing ball in the 2nd row usually come downtable i already know that.
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In 9-ball, the wing ball should be in the 3rd row. If your opponent is racking the wing ball or the bottom ball in the 2nd row, you should ask him to re-rack the balls in a diamond formation. :D
 
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