John Barton's exercise routine video

The exercise is not bad way to commit suicide.
 
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No replacing fast walking for a mile and then doing 2-3 sets of dumbell curls with light 25 pound bells, each arm, slowwww.....and squeezing hard at the top of the rep.
This business here is going to result in some bad habits sneaking into the regular pool shooting.
Impossible, there is a mile long cue to get into John's bad habit locker.
 
The one question I'd want to ask John is what benefit he thinks this drill will possibly have on someone's pool game? I don't see ONE constructive thing this would teach or reinforce.
 
Sitting at my desk watching a YouTube video while eating M&Ms and drinking a Coke... I'm not in a position to judge or laugh at all!

If it gets you moving around and gets your heart rate up, go for it! Nothing says you can't enjoy exercising.
 
Lol what the #@%! Have I just watched.

What's wrong with going for a run, or a walk with the family?

Those ball in hand shots are harder than they look, eh?

What's wrong with having fun? It's all in fun and does actually work to get the heart pumping.

I know a guy who made a pretty good living running out racks in about a minute a rack.

And yeah, sometimes when you going really fast the ball in hand shots are not lined up perfectly. Guess you have never seen a person miss with ball in hand? I have seen pros do it so I don't feel too bad if I do it once in a while.
 
The one question I'd want to ask John is what benefit he thinks this drill will possibly have on someone's pool game? I don't see ONE constructive thing this would teach or reinforce.

Who said it was to teach anyone anything about pool? Did I say anything about this helping your pool game?

But since you asked one thing that it definitely helps with is learning to move the cue ball in smaller spaces. You get really good at seeing how to run groups of balls efficiently. That comes by trying to shave seconds off the time. The only way to get the best time is to reduce cue ball travel to the absolute minimum.

So after some reps you start to see how to to run clusters into one pocket while staying in a small space. Clear a group and move to the next group......

I think that helps me in my regular game. I find that I can develop an accurate touch even while shooting very quickly.
 
But since you asked one thing that it definitely helps with is learning to move the cue ball in smaller spaces. You get really good at seeing how to run groups of balls efficiently. That comes by trying to shave seconds off the time. The only way to get the best time is to reduce cue ball travel to the absolute minimum.

So after some reps you start to see how to to run clusters into one pocket while staying in a small space. Clear a group and move to the next group......

I think that helps me in my regular game. I find that I can develop an accurate touch even while shooting very quickly.

Try 14.1. It helps with running balls into two pockets and dealing with clusters.

Any drill that has you grabbing a moving cueball is useless. Period.

If you work up a sweat walking around a pool table, you need to reevaluate your physical fitness regime......just saying.
 
I think that most of us find pool be be highly demanding and a game that requires an unusually high degree of precision. Precision in execution which flows directly from precision and consistency in setup. Part of that is not only doing things the right way but in the right sequence, which brings me to this: part of a good PSR is timing or tempo so that a player gives their body parts time to unfold and get where they need to be.

So don't do stupid shee-at.

It's just like the old timers say: if you're not going to practice/play/compete with full concentration, focus, and commitment -- don't play at all because all you're going to do is introduce bad timing, sequencing, form and execution into your game.

Lou Figueroa
 
Try 14.1. It helps with running balls into two pockets and dealing with clusters.

Any drill that has you grabbing a moving cueball is useless. Period.

If you work up a sweat walking around a pool table, you need to reevaluate your physical fitness regime......just saying.

You all must be bored today.

it's running around a pool table not walking.

Nitpicking something silly and fun like this is a sign of ............................. I don't know what.......just not really worth the effort.
 
What's wrong with having fun? It's all in fun and does actually work to get the heart pumping.

I know a guy who made a pretty good living running out racks in about a minute a rack.

And yeah, sometimes when you going really fast the ball in hand shots are not lined up perfectly. Guess you have never seen a person miss with ball in hand? I have seen pros do it so I don't feel too bad if I do it once in a while.
Last time I worked up a sweat on a pool table was when I put a 6 inch slice in the cloth of my dad's table when I was about 10. I ran around that table so quick he gave up after a few minutes.

I admire that you're putting out content to get pool seen by newcomers, but for us that are already involved in the game that look up to you and respect you and think this is a good idea will very quickly start to develop some bad traits to their game.

The fitness business is a fickle industry. Much like the pool industry. The average Joe wouldn't give a pool instructor the time of day if they played better than the instructor...
 
I think that most of us find pool be be highly demanding and a game that requires an unusually high degree of precision. Precision in execution which flows directly from precision and consistency in setup. Part of that is not only doing things the right way but in the right sequence, which brings me to this: part of a good PSR is timing or tempo so that a player gives their body parts time to unfold and get where they need to be.

So don't do stupid shee-at.

It's just like the old timers say: if you're not going to practice/play/compete with full concentration, focus, and commitment -- don't play at all because all you're going to do is introduce bad timing, sequencing, form and execution into your game.

Lou Figueroa

yawn.

Overanalyzing this really showcases the anal part of it.

It's funny though that you would have an issue with it when guys like Lou Butera would have beaten you in less time than it takes you say you don't want to play. Keith Mcready would have busted you in every game with his wonky stroke and strange characteristics. Bustamante's arm pump and sideways eye aiming would probably induce a heart attack. Watching Luc Salvas and Tony Drago probably causes aneurisms.

What old timers used to say that anyway?

What happened to just hit a million balls?

You guys really know how to take the fun out of things. I would hate to see your after-sex reviews of your partner's performance. Bet that's a great conversation.

Honey, not to be an ass but, it's like the old timers used to say, " if you're not going to practice/play/compete with full concentration, focus, and commitment -- don't play at all because all you're going to do is introduce bad timing, sequencing, form and execution into your game." ;-)
 
Last time I worked up a sweat on a pool table was when I put a 6 inch slice in the cloth of my dad's table when I was about 10. I ran around that table so quick he gave up after a few minutes.

I admire that you're putting out content to get pool seen by newcomers, but for us that are already involved in the game that look up to you and respect you and think this is a good idea will very quickly start to develop some bad traits to their game.

The fitness business is a fickle industry. Much like the pool industry. The average Joe wouldn't give a pool instructor the time of day if they played better than the instructor...

Seriously?

I guess you have missed that speed pool is a real thing. Darren Appleton and SVB and many other top pros have competed in speed pool contests. One paid out 50 or 100k I think.

Now I know that AZB has hit rock bottom. When people are really spending effort to complain that the concept of running around the table trying to pocket balls as quickly as possible is destructive.

Let's introduce the concept of personal responsibility....if anyone out there is SERIOUS about their game then let's just make it a default assumption that they will have enough sense to figure out that trying to run out every rack in less than a minute will not likely produce the results they are looking for.

Maybe if we agree to use that as our common sense we can then stop having this discussion?
 
Seriously?

I guess you have missed that speed pool is a real thing. Darren Appleton and SVB and many other top pros have competed in speed pool contests. One paid out 50 or 100k I think.

Now I know that AZB has hit rock bottom. When people are really spending effort to complain that the concept of running around the table trying to pocket balls as quickly as possible is destructive.

Let's introduce the concept of personal responsibility....if anyone out there is SERIOUS about their game then let's just make it a default assumption that they will have enough sense to figure out that trying to run out every rack in less than a minute will not likely produce the results they are looking for.

Maybe if we agree to use that as our common sense we can then stop having this discussion?
We can't stop the discussion just yet John, we haven't seen you in spandex yet!
 
Let's introduce the concept of personal responsibility....if anyone out there is SERIOUS about their game then let's just make it a default assumption that they will have enough sense to figure out that trying to run out every rack in less than a minute will not likely produce the results they are looking for.

I can agree with that statement John. I have tried Speed Pool. I like it and like watching it even better.

But, if one is trying to extol the virtues of losing a few calories while playing a few games, I don't think that will work, as my time is usually spent with Beer and Chicken wings.

If a person has a heavy meal, you are better off to walk around the block once or twice briskly, pumping their arms like a Speed Walker. Plus, the fresh air will wake you up a bit more than trying to do that in a stuffy old hall. Smoke or not.

Then, when you come back into the hall for your game or whatever, should you be playing a tourney perhaps, you will be refreshed and ready for your opponent.
 
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Reading the title of the thread I was..:

1. Dreading: JB in spandex with a shake weight!:shocked2:
2. Hoping for: JB in a chicken suit, with KFC sponsorship badge:grin-square:
3. Expecting: CTE clickbait:mad:

Come on everybody, why so serious? BTW, I know an aiming system that can help you make the 15 ball;). I'll give you a 6 out of 10 for effort. Speed pool can actually be quite a good workout. Don't know if it's very good for your game, though, and the ball-in-hand idea seems to take away from the pool value it actually does have. I doubt it will do much harm to your game, if you combine it with real training.
 
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The ball in hand is my variation. We did a speed pool contest at a Fury booth in the 2000's and I let people take ball in hand after every shot so we could move through long lines of people faster.

I did it a few times and saw that several reps would induce sweat. Whether or not you actually make balls or whether it has any value for pool training is not really relevant. The whole point is simply to use a pool table and balls as a prop to get a little exercise in.

I will do a follow up video in Richard Simmons shorts and headband with an activity tracker on to actually count the calories used. Ok will forgo the shorts......I do want more than a few chubby chasers as viewers. :-)
 
Variety is the splice of life.

You guys need to lighten up. A little speed pool never hurt anybody. My kids have enjoyed a few rounds of this here and there. It definitely gets the heart pumping so I can see some value in that. I've also messed around with wing shots and I see some value in those as well. I think they both serve as a way to engage tour subconscious.
 
yawn.

Overanalyzing this really showcases the anal part of it.

It's funny though that you would have an issue with it when guys like Lou Butera would have beaten you in less time than it takes you say you don't want to play. Keith Mcready would have busted you in every game with his wonky stroke and strange characteristics. Bustamante's arm pump and sideways eye aiming would probably induce a heart attack. Watching Luc Salvas and Tony Drago probably causes aneurisms.

What old timers used to say that anyway?

What happened to just hit a million balls?

You guys really know how to take the fun out of things. I would hate to see your after-sex reviews of your partner's performance. Bet that's a great conversation.

Honey, not to be an ass but, it's like the old timers used to say, " if you're not going to practice/play/compete with full concentration, focus, and commitment -- don't play at all because all you're going to do is introduce bad timing, sequencing, form and execution into your game." ;-)


I don't expect you to understand.

Guys like Butera, Drago -- that was/is their thing, that's their tempo, *they're the exception.* Besides, posting here, you are addressing amateur players, not pros.

The old-timers are the guys I'd occasionally hang around at The Palace and Cochran's in San Francisco. They always said that if your heart wasn't in it -- if you were bored and just hitting balls for the sake of hitting them -- to stop, you would be doing more damage than good. Don't expect you to understand.

So sure, you still need to hit a million balls but as the books, like Daniel Coyle's "The Talent Code" say, it needs to be "deep practice," focused, purposeful practice, and not running around the table like an idiot.

Don't expect you to understand that one either ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
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