John Davis Blanks (Burton Spain)

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I recently received the first dozen sample blanks produced by John Davis in his new operation. After many discussions with John, I am very excited to announce that he has decided to make full splice blanks available in very limited quanities.

For those who may not be familiar with John's work, if you pick up a Balabushka cue with a Burton Spain forearm, John probably made the blank. Burton Spain provided high quality full-splice blanks to many of the top cue makers in the 1960's and 1970's, eventually turning over his business to Joel Hercek. John was Burton's partner and bought out his business (and sold it back to Burton) for a while in the early 1970's. He also built many of the machines Burton used.

The world may not need another cue-maker, but the talents of John Davis are definitely in demand by other cue-makers. Making full splice blanks of this caliber is simply impractical for most cue makers, but John is a true pro and he is back into the fold, once again producing championship full splice balnks and cues using time honored techniques.

Although I am not involved with his business, I have set up a web page for John, and I am helping him to get the word out. You will have to contact him directly for ordering information, prices, etc. because he is just getting started with this, but expect roughly $350 per blank. You may then have your own preferred cue maker use this as a basis for your custom.

Since John's work is hand done, unique, and is steeped in tradition, I would think these blanks will be in high demand.

For more information, including how to contact John, please visit the web page I set up for him:

http://www.palmercollector.com/JohnDavis.html


Chris

Ps. The handles are full length.
 
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That is SOOooo COOoool, I liken it a bit to the return of ernie martinez, a ( stroke ) of luck has opend a window in time to own something special, among the special. I would say if you like titlists then you should just love these!
I am curious, is this vintage old wood from back in the day, or is he starting over?

Thanks, Jay.
 
Tate,

Thanks for posting. Will be in touch with John. I think he will be able to sell all he cares to make at that price !!

Sean
 
cueaddicts said:
Tate,

Thanks for posting. Will be in touch with John. I think he will be able to sell all he cares to make at that price !!

Sean

can u show a whole cue i i like the work so far ..
 
deadstroke32 said:
can u show a whole cue i i like the work so far ..

Sorry, but all I have is the blanks. They're not much longer than what you see there. They are designed to be fabricated into a two piece cue by a cue-maker or by John Davis himself.

Chris
 
Forgive my ignorance, but is it really a FULL-spliced blank, since the same wood doesn't continue from the points all the way to the handle?
 
DJEnD said:
Forgive my ignorance, but is it really a FULL-spliced blank, since the same wood doesn't continue from the points all the way to the handle?

I see your point. This construction is the same type Joel Hercek uses and it is always referred to as "full splice" as far as I know. There are just two splice joints, which is actually more difficult to do than just making the handle one piece.

Perhaps there should be different terminology used. Personally, I refer to any cue with a genuine splice joint as "full splice", even the 18" shorts Burton Spain and John Davis provided Balabushka. The reason why I do this is to differentiate between a spliced cue and a cue with the more common milled points, which I've heard referred to as half-splice.

There is some terminology that I wish were universal and the current terms certainly could be improved upon.

Chris
 
They are full-splice, just like this one.
 

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ScottR said:
They are full-splice, just like this one.


Hi Scott - That's a pretty shot of Joel Hercek's incredible work.

I just spoke with John and he is going to make some blanks with full length handles for my own order. So when he has those ready, I'll post some pics.

Chris
 
I spoke to Mr. Davis today, and threw my hat into the ring for one of his cues. We worked out the details so I can take delivery after my return...and he was VERY accomodating about taking me on.

Super nice guy...and his wife is a real sweetheart to talk to as well.

Now all I need to do is design the thing!!! :)

Rat
 
8-ball Rat said:
I spoke to Mr. Davis today, and threw my hat into the ring for one of his cues. We worked out the details so I can take delivery after my return...and he was VERY accomodating about taking me on.

Super nice guy...and his wife is a real sweetheart to talk to as well.

Now all I need to do is design the thing!!! :)

Rat

Thanks, Rat!

I'm having him make up some custom blanks for me and I and just putting them away for awhile.

I want to keep a couple of his samples I will always keep intact as examples of his work, then I've got some blanks ordered I'm going to put away for the future for custom cues. At some future date, I'll just have them around to use for "custom fever".

I'm going to have some blanks done in the classic Spain colors, some reverse, and I think I'm going to have John make a couple of Titlist style blanks - using rosewood, maple, and the Titlist colors. Maybe one with blue and gray veneers too.

If you noticed, these cues may be spliced but have nice long points - gotta love it!

Chris
 
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zeeder said:
They are full-spliced twice...lol. A double splice if you will.
This, I can't comprehend. :confused:

ScottR said:
They are full-splice, just like this one.
I can definitely see the similarity between this and John's, but Joel's one is rounder at the edges.

I've ordered a ebony on ebony from him and am still deciding about whether to have someone else make the cue, or him.

Maybe I'll order another blank and have him make the cue.;)
 
So here is my question. Say we buy this blank, then whats next? How much would it run me to get the cue finished up by a top cue maker? Can anyone throw a range or the type of costs involved. I am interested..but no idea of what i am getting myself into.
 
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If you are talking "top"---you are looking somewhere between
1000 and 2000 to finish the cue (plus the cost of the blank)---and it depends on what type of work (inlays, etc) you are looking to have done.
 
paulybatz said:
If you are talking "top"---you are looking somewhere between
1000 and 2000 to finish the cue (plus the cost of the blank)---and it depends on what type of work (inlays, etc) you are looking to have done.
Which cue makers would take on such a challenge?

Myron
 
Hi, I had my Davis blank finished by a top cuemaker and have talked to other cuemakers also, I paid what the cuemakers normal cost minus what he would charge for making the blank. One thing I have to say about John Davis blanks is, and I'm no cuemaker, the cuemaker I chose said that the blank was fabulous. Another cuemaker I spoke to said that he would finish the cue for around 1700 but he would not sign it or use his top grade shafts for it either, so I chose not to go with him.
 

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