John Davis cues???

[lenoxmjs]

The cue he is asking the question about I believe is the one I have up on ebay at the moment. The shafts have Ivory as does the joint so its an Ivory to Ivory joint.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=190269332868

 

[Mr Hoppe]

Several have offered to help Mr. Hoppe, but it is clear he doesn't want help. He wants to voice his displeasure with Mr. Davis in every thread about Mr. Davis. Airing publicly his dirty laundry in every one's thread but his own is the path he has chosen to take. Maybe Arnot can build him a blank, they seem to be like minds.

Wow! Well, this turned nasty unnecessarily . . .

Tommy, let me be clear about this, the original poster asked for "any opinions or experiences" about Davis cues, and I shared my experience. I am NOT launching a smear campaign, and I don't know why you feel the need to take such an attitude, but that's your problem, and I'm just going to ignore it.

To others who had asked if I had direct contact with John and/or his wife, yes, I have spoken to each of them multiple times. Thank you for your offers to put me in direct contact, I appreciate the gesture.

I don't know why there has been such a large delay on this job, but John simply told me after about 20 weeks, "if you still want it, it's going to take a few more weeks." He then left on a fishing trip, and that's the last I've heard. At this point, I don't care if he ever makes the blank. I'm not worried about it, and I'm not upset about it. However, that doesn't mean that I'm not going to share the story when asked . . .
Mr H

 

[hangemhigh]

Wow! Well, this turned nasty unnecessarily . . .

Tommy, let me be clear about this, the original poster asked for "any opinions or experiences" about Davis cues, and I shared my experience. I am NOT launching a smear campaign, and I don't know why you feel the need to take such an attitude, but that's your problem, and I'm just going to ignore it.

Total BS. In this thread (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=120728&highlight=davis) that did not ask for any opinion you go on the same rant, totally unsolicited and detrimental to the poster's sale. It is obvious you did intend to smear Mr. Davis, and I am glad you have come to your senses and will cease this unwarranted behavior.

 

[cubswin]

Wow! Well, this turned nasty unnecessarily . . .

Tommy, let me be clear about this, the original poster asked for "any opinions or experiences" about Davis cues, and I shared my experience. I am NOT launching a smear campaign, and I don't know why you feel the need to take such an attitude, but that's your problem, and I'm just going to ignore it.

Total BS. In this thread (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=120728&highlight=davis) that did not ask for any opinion you go on the same rant, totally unsolicited and detrimental to the poster's sale. It is obvious you did intend to smear Mr. Davis, and I am glad you have come to your senses and will cease this unwarranted behavior.

If he has been waiting 9 months, for something that was supposed to be delivered in 4 months how is bringing it up unwarranted? Especially without communication from the builder?

Just curious, as I've seen people like Varney and Wheat and cue sellers harassed about this very thing. I've seen you harass sellers for not delivering on time.

Now if no money has exchanged hands, then who really cares how long the wait is. No harm no foul in my opinion.

 

[Mr Hoppe]

Total BS. In this thread (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=120728&highlight=davis) that did not ask for any opinion you go on the same rant, totally unsolicited and detrimental to the poster's sale. It is obvious you did intend to smear Mr. Davis, and I am glad you have come to your senses and will cease this unwarranted behavior.

Tommy, I'm glad that you value my opinion so much that you actually search for my posts. That makes me feel good inside.

IMO, four sentances is hardly a rant, and my comments were in no way detrimental to this person's sale. In fact, since I had quoted the post that I was addressing, you can see that I wasn't addressing this person's sale at all. You do have me on one point though, it was unsolicited. If it makes you feel better, I reserve the right to express my opinion on my own business transactions whenever and wherever I like. That statement may seem obvious to most (if not all) but you seem to think that we should all not speak unless spoken to. The fact is Tommy, that these are details about my own transaction that I can share whenever and wherever I feel appropriate, and in this case I was speaking to another person who is also waiting on a cue from Mr Davis. My intention was simply to let him know that he may be waiting longer than he thought. One of the benefits to the members of this forum is the sharing of information, ideas, and experiences, and that is what I was doing here.

You are certainly welcome to your own opinion on the matter, but it sure feels like you're trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. You may want to find something more productive to do with your time. I, for one, don't need such drama.

Mr H

 

[rhncue]

If he has been waiting 9 months, for something that was supposed to be delivered in 4 months how is bringing it up unwarranted? Especially without communication from the builder?

Just curious, as I've seen people like Varney and Wheat and cue sellers harassed about this very thing. I've seen you harass sellers for not delivering on time.

Now if no money has exchanged hands, then who really cares how long the wait is. No harm no foul in my opinion.

I agree and disagree with different parts of your statement. The last sentence:

"Now if no money has exchanged hands, then who really cares how long the wait is. No harm no foul in my opinion."

If a promise is made for a delivery date then that date should be respected whether money was put up or not, in my opinion. People don't live forever. If they have waited for a product or service, for any length of time with no delivery then that time has stolen from them. They may have passed up other purchases or placed an order with another cue maker and been that much closer to a finished deal.

I'm not commenting on this particular case as I know none of the details but I feel if the agreed to deal has been established and then not completed by the maker, it is as bad, if not worse, than when the purchaser reneges on a deal and refuses to pay for the finished product.

Dick

 

[hangemhigh]

If he has been waiting 9 months, for something that was supposed to be delivered in 4 months how is bringing it up unwarranted? Especially without communication from the builder?

Just curious, as I've seen people like Varney and Wheat and cue sellers harassed about this very thing. I've seen you harass sellers for not delivering on time.

Now if no money has exchanged hands, then who really cares how long the wait is. No harm no foul in my opinion.

No money has changed hands, so he really has no beef, which is the point. I've seen you harass sellers for non-delivery of paid for items, just as I have, and the harassment was well founded in both instances. This is a different matter, and he has only an axe to grind, because we both know he will never get the blank now.

 

[Mr Hoppe]

No money has changed hands, so he really has no beef, which is the point. I've seen you harass sellers for non-delivery of paid for items, just as I have, and the harassment was well founded in both instances. This is a different matter, and he has only an axe to grind, because we both know he will never get the blank now.

If that is your point, then why are you bringing it up only now??? I certainly would purchase the blank if/when it ever gets completed. I committed to the purchase by placing the order, and I will keep my word.

Tommy, it feels like you're making this stuff up as you go... are you just creating drama to reach a daily post quota? This is really quite ridiculous.

Mr H

 

[cubswin]

I agree and disagree with different parts of your statement. The last sentence:

"Now if no money has exchanged hands, then who really cares how long the wait is. No harm no foul in my opinion."

If a promise is made for a delivery date then that date should be respected whether money was put up or not, in my opinion. People don't live forever. If they have waited for a product or service, for any length of time with no delivery then that time has stolen from them. They may have passed up other purchases or placed an order with another cue maker and been that much closer to a finished deal.

I'm not commenting on this particular case as I know none of the details but I feel if the agreed to deal has been established and then not completed by the maker, it is as bad, if not worse, than when the purchaser reneges on a deal and refuses to pay for the finished product.

Dick

That was my quote Dick. The reason I personally don't care if money hasn't been exchanged is simply because no one is out anything. I tend not to do business with people that don't hold to their word, but I do keep it to myself. Feel a lot different when someone is paid either in full, or partially up front for items and then are way behind on delivery. Just my opinion mind you.