john schimdt runs 266

Poolplaya9 said:
The only person that has been called out is you and all the rest that claim near zero risk for it being broken any time soon because of the your claims that "not one single person alive today or that has lived in the last 60 years has had the talent/ability to break it because if they could have they would have" but yet are unwilling to back up something you feel is near zero risk with a thing.

Why don't you and the rest just be honest and tell the truth about what you really think and believe. What you all really believe, but just can't bring yourself to admit, is that you don't think it is probable that someone would do it in the next year even if there were say 30k on the line for it, but still a pretty good likelihood that it could and would be done even though you don't see it as likely. In other words more likely than not that it won't be broken and that is about it and not anywhere close to the near impossibility that you like to suggest.

And the reason you don't truly believe there is a near zero chance for it being done is that you don't really and truly believe that theory you profess of "nobody today or in the last 60 years had the talent to break it because if they could have they would have". You realize other factors besides talent (like it just wasn't worth it to break it) could have actually been in play all along and still today. Everything I said is true, isn't it?
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Yes let's talk about the truth, shall we?

Truth is, as I have explained before ad naseum , I have no doubt that the record can and will be beat. But I do have doubts that anyone has been able to do it thus far simply based on the fact that very few players have shown the extra-ordinary abilities that Willie had. In other words, who alive today has a resume even remotely near to that of Mosconi?

What American player alive today has spent over a decade consistently winning matches on 10 ft tables? ( and with a 309 run)

Anyone?

What player alive today has 19 world titles in ANY game ?

15 Titles?

10 titles?

It's easy for you to dismiss his record by claiming "that was then, and this is now" but again, if you want to dwell on the truth, you yourself said :

" I don't think there is anybody that believes that they can break the record on a tough 9 ft table in any length of time.."

So that pretty much rules out anyone dominating on actual 10 foot tables, as Mosconi clearly did.

Has any player alive today run 125 (or more) and out, 58 times in competition?
John?
Anyone?


Then there's the issue of the players he played against.
According to you, 14.1 is a dead game with very few players..so it should be much easier to dominate the field and take home 19 titles easy peezy. But who has done this ? Who has come even close?

Anyone?

Let me guess, no incentive to win world titles either ? Not worth it?

The truth is, you can't wrap your head around the phenom that was Mosconi. You either don't understand or don't want to understand, that there is nothing on earth to prevent someone from having been a greater player in the past.

Moreover, you have the nuts to chastise ME for not raising a prize fund, basically just to prove that you aren't wrong, yet you yourself, who believes that there is a "very strong" possibility that the record will be beat, won't pony up a dime on it? What kind of hypocritical stance is that?

Too scared to back up your own claim are we? Or maybe, just maybe, the reality of Mosconis record is finally starting to sink in. Keep in mind that you're the one claiming that it can be beat. I'm only claiming that Mosconi's record speaks for itself..the proof is already there.

How about this, start with some simple logic and go find a player with a record remotely similar to Mosconis and let's compare notes. Show us all who deserves the same respect that Mosconi earned, if such a person even exists.
 
Mr. Bond said:
Yes let's talk about the truth, shall we?

Truth is, as I have explained before ad naseum , I have no doubt that the record can and will be beat. But I do have doubts that anyone has been able to do it thus far simply based on the fact that very few players have shown the extra-ordinary abilities that Willie had. In other words, who alive today has a resume even remotely near to that of Mosconi?

What American player alive today has spent over a decade consistently winning matches on 10 ft tables? ( and with a 309 run)

Anyone?

What player alive today has 19 world titles in ANY game ?

15 Titles?

10 titles?

It's easy for you to dismiss his record by claiming "that was then, and this is now" but again, if you want to dwell on the truth, you yourself said :

" I don't think there is anybody that believes that they can break the record on a tough 9 ft table in any length of time.."

So that pretty much rules out anyone dominating on actual 10 foot tables, as Mosconi clearly did.

Has any player alive today run 125 (or more) and out, 58 times in competition?
John?
Anyone?


Then there's the issue of the players he played against.
According to you, 14.1 is a dead game with very few players..so it should be much easier to dominate the field and take home 19 titles easy peezy. But who has done this ? Who has come even close?

Anyone?

Let me guess, no incentive to win world titles either ? Not worth it?

The truth is, you can't wrap your head around the phenom that was Mosconi. You either don't understand or don't want to understand, that there is nothing on earth to prevent someone from having been a greater player in the past.

Moreover, you have the nuts to chastise ME for not raising a prize fund, basically just to prove that you aren't wrong, yet you yourself, who believes that there is a "very strong" possibility that the record will be beat, won't pony up a dime on it? What kind of hypocritical stance is that?

Too scared to back up your own claim are we? Or maybe, just maybe, the reality of Mosconis record is finally starting to sink in. Keep in mind that you're the one claiming that it can be beat. I'm only claiming that Mosconi's record speaks for itself..the proof is already there.

How about this, start with some simple logic and go find a player with a record remotely similar to Mosconis and let's compare notes. Show us all who deserves the same respect that Mosconi earned, if such a person even exists.
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you sir need to relax;) you sir need to understand that some people are just stupid! Lol;) anyway, don't let these retarded imbeciles that have no concept of what pocket billiards is get you down!

My opinion, only 2 players come to mind for breaking the record. John being 1 and old efren! Not putting anyone down as far as ability, but hitting the 400 mark is a feat in it of itself! Never mind 526! It really is test of endurance of the mind! And that's what most people don't understand! Until people can figure that out, you will always have some pool players who think they can put a 2 pack of 9-ball together and think "oh, this is so easy"!

There is another world of pool that most don't know:( the game is truly beautiful, it is intriguing, it's a way of life to some:) I feel sorry for those who play our great game when there asked "what else do you play"? And they respond "what do you mean? What is there besides 8-ball and 9-ball????" Oh well, maybe this is why the game will never reach new heights! Maybe because some of the players we have today don't know much about anything!?!? I don't know and I don't care, all I know is Willie is one of the all time greats!

A line from the hustled comes to mind "I'm the best, I'm the best there is! Even if you beat me, I'm still the best"! I think that's gonna be Willie's legacy! It doesn't matter if his record is broken, HES STILL THE BEST!!!!
 
And to think that all this talking would be moot if Thomas Engert had been able to hang in there for 36 more balls beyond his personal high of 491. Why is his name not being bandied about as one of the potential greats/candidates to break the record ?

All that said, I do want John Schmidt to be the one to break the barrier.
 
TorranceChris said:
And to think that all this talking would be moot if Thomas Engert had been able to hang in there for 36 more balls beyond his personal high of 491. Why is his name not being bandied about as one of the potential greats/candidates to break the record ? ...
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An excellent question. There are several players I think would have a chance if the conditions were right including Schmidt, Appleton, Hopkins (with a little more time on the table and not the desk), Immonen, Engert, Harriman, Ortmann, Feijen, and probably several players from China that few here have ever heard of. But by "a chance" I mean a month or so of attempts.

Hmmmm.... maybe a series of charity events in shopping malls. Pledge a penny a ball for all balls pocketed in a weekend and 10 cents per ball for the highest run. I think the "Send Bob to Summer Camp" would be an excellent charity.:groucho:
 
Mr. Bond said:
Yes let's talk about the truth, shall we?

Truth is, as I have explained before ad naseum , I have no doubt that the record can and will be beat. But I do have doubts that anyone has been able to do it thus far simply based on the fact that very few players have shown the extra-ordinary abilities that Willie had. In other words, who alive today has a resume even remotely near to that of Mosconi?

What American player alive today has spent over a decade consistently winning matches on 10 ft tables? ( and with a 309 run)

.
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David, you had me at 10 foot tables ;) The 309 run was just icing on the cake !!!!
 
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