John Schmidt's and Corey Deuel's comments on aiming systems

[CJ Wiley]

it's been going on for over 2 years - a lot has happened since then

Neil, Why are you still chasing CJ around the forum with these needless attacks? I just don't get it.

As you can tell from this thread, it's been going on for over 2 years. A lot has happened since then and it's leading to one of the greatest Game promotions in pool's history.

PS: I haven't played anyone for $200 a game in many years. I always play sets and the money is put up - we, as a rule won't play by the game unless it's $100 a game or less.

Even then we will require them to put up the first $100. as a deposit for the last game.

 

[Neil]

Neil, Why are you still chasing CJ around the forum with these needless attacks? I just don't get it.

I'm not. But, if you really think I am, then I guess you are still chasing me around with needling attacks too.

 

[Neil]

As you can tell from this thread, it's been going on for over 2 years. A lot has happened since then and it's leading to one of the greatest Game promotions in pool's history.

PS: I haven't played anyone for $200 a game in many years. I always play sets and the money is put up - we, as a rule won't play by the game unless it's $100 a game or less.

Even then we will require them to put up the first $100. as a deposit for the last game.

I can take my friends word for it, who I have never had any reason to doubt his word. Or, I can take your word for it. The one on the opposite side of the coin. Guess who I believe??

 

[CJ Wiley]

I can take my friends word for it, who I have never had any reason to doubt his word. Or, I can take your word for it. The one on the opposite side of the coin. Guess who I believe??

I presume you would take your friends word for it, instead of the source.

 

[eezbank]

I'm not. But, if you really think I am, then I guess you are still chasing me around with needling attacks too.

That doesn't even make sense. I asked you a direct question one time. As I suspected you just deflect and pretend that you aren't in fact needling CJ.

You used to really add some great content to this forum. I wish you would let this feud go and start getting back to the old Neils way of posting.

 

[Mr. Wilson]

On two now.


Third will be permanent.

You actually resurrected a year old thread just to pat yourself on the back??

Drab? Not at all, in fact, there was the feeling of family on here before you started spamming your schtick. That's now gone, as you have driven away most of the good posters. Rather than stand up to your spamming and arrogance, they just left. As far as thousands benefiting, that's only in your dreams. Time to wake up to reality.

By the way, I heard you played some A player for a couple hundred a game a couple of weeks ago. Guess you don't quite have that TOI down pat yet, huh? Keep on trying though, you just might figure out how to play again.

 

[Mikjary]

This was the thread that led me to posting on azbilliards, it's ironic, I have some of the same "critics" following me around saying the same things. LoL - after over two years would you say this is "normal" or should I get a "internet restraining order".

There is a lot of great information in this thread, it precedes the 'Touch of Inside' DVD, so players get some of the purest of the TOI knowledge.

It might take a week to reread it fully. Or a short time without all the squabbling. :grin-square: People resist change, that's normal.

Best,
Mike

 

[Neil]

On two now.


Third will be permanent.

And what rule did I break?

 

[CJ Wiley]

Corey and John Schmidt would agree with a lot of the points.

It might take a week to reread it fully. Or a short time without all the squabbling. :grin-square: People resist change, that's normal.

Best,
Mike

It's got a lot of excellent stuff, I went through it and was really impressed.

I'm pretty sure even Corey and John Schmidt would agree with a lot of the points. We all have to keep an open mind to continue to improve and evolve as players.

 

[Straightpool_99]

It's one of the many bitter sweet ironies of life that a thread about a pro player basically calling aiming systems hokum, became a vehicle for people to unload their aiming systems...This world is a funny place sometimes, it's just sad that i sometimes forget to laugh... I got to agree with John Schmidt on his views. There are not a 1000 players shooting like Corey all of a sudden...Aiming systems work in the way they were designed. They get you to the shot line with center ball. Almost all of them do. That, I believe is why I (and others as well) shoot almost exactly the same no matter which system I used, and I've basically tried them all. The problem is that you got to deliver the cueball where the stick is pointing and with the right speed. Sometimes you need sidespin as well...This is where people break down, this is the difference...In some rare cases people are basically guessing every time, but they are usually terrible at the game. If you can run a rack at least once in a while, you pretty much know how to aim is my hypothesis.

So the end result is what? Some people line their pockets with your cash, and you thank them for the privelege, just like a rube who clicks on spam about "stock market secrets that the fat cats on Wall Street don't want you to know about". At least you get to play pool and have fun. Here is some food for thought: If some guy found the secret to playing great pool, or pick the right stock every time, would he share it with you for 59,95? or would he take advantage of his knowledge himself?

Here is a free tip:You want to play better pool? Find the best straight pool player in your area (must be a the highest level)-Play him as much as you possibly can, then practice the insight you get 12 hours a day for a year. Improvement guaranteed, unless your back wears out or you go crazy of course. Why didn't I do that myself you ask? I don't have the time, and I need to eat or whatever other excuse. I just don't want it enough, I guess. The payback is not worth starving for a year, living in my car etc...At this point you should be asking yourself: "Then how does he know it works?" If you asked yourself this question you need never buy another aiming system. You are welcome.

 

[Mr. Wilson]

And what rule did I break?

Look up your first warning.

 

[Neil]

Look up your first warning.

I didn't break any rules there either. I pointed out someone that was breaking the rules, and I get warned for it while the rule breaker got nothing. What ever happened to Mike stating that he wanted to be fair and not biased?

And, here you are, I think stating, that I am not even allowed to comment on anything CJ related? Is that right? While you have threads going right now that are saying things far worse than I ever have. And that is fairness?

In this case, I didn't slam him at all. I merely stated some facts as I see them. What is the problem with people stating the truth on here?? Is it that he has an add banner and I don't, or what?? Seriously, I'm trying to figure it out. Not matter what I post, you seem to be only listening to those that stalk and report me, and not caring about what is said at all.

How is anyone to post on here if the rules stated aren't the real rules?

 

[CJ Wiley]

This is why I prefer 4.24 inch pockets because they play closer to 4.5 using TOI.

Here's a couple of things I've noticed about using a touch of inside. Several times over the past couple of weeks I've lined up bad on long rail shots. I've actually contacted the rail just past the side pocket and had the balls still drop into the corner pocket. I'm shooting at 4" pockets where there is only about a tip's width of play down the rail.

Shooting that same shot with outside makes the object ball move away from the rail as soon as it contacts it, with little chance of going in. With the touch of inside, the ball slides off of the rail and doesn't grab/rebound as much. Yes, I know... Didn't you know that? No lessons, please. Just a positive observation for the plus column.

Another note is the ability to feel when I'm truly cueing at dead center. After training my tip position to be a hair inside on a majority of shots, I understand where center ball is better. I have the ability to judge a hair off of center, so I'm able to detect it and actually be more accurate with the middle of the cue ball. My stop shots stop dead, no spin. A by-product of default cueing to the inside.

Best,
Mike

TOI is especially good under pressure because you know if you accelerate the pocket opens up.

Your experience it correct, the touch of inside, puts a touch of outside on the object ball. This make the pocket zone bigger because the approach angle, combined with the natural pocket-acceptance spin makes the pocket appear to "gobble" the O.B.

This is why I prefer 4.24 inch pockets because they play closer to 4.5 using TOI. This is a huge advantage, especially when you play someone for several hours.

 

[duckie]

TOI is nothing more than a stun shot. It is also a limiting factor to really being able to move to ball around the table.

It more than likely TOI is used because someone does not know how to spin the ball.

 

[Mr. Wilson]

I didn't break any rules there either. I pointed out someone that was breaking the rules, and I get warned for it while the rule breaker got nothing. What ever happened to Mike stating that he wanted to be fair and not biased?

And, here you are, I think stating, that I am not even allowed to comment on anything CJ related? Is that right? While you have threads going right now that are saying things far worse than I ever have. And that is fairness?

In this case, I didn't slam him at all. I merely stated some facts as I see them. What is the problem with people stating the truth on here?? Is it that he has an add banner and I don't, or what?? Seriously, I'm trying to figure it out. Not matter what I post, you seem to be only listening to those that stalk and report me, and not caring about what is said at all.

How is anyone to post on here if the rules stated aren't the real rules?

You wish to play a game of semantics with me.
Let me clarify: You have been told that your behavior toward CJ is unacceptable.
You continue the behavior that you have been warned for.

The next time will be permanent.

This isn't the second, the forth or even the tenth time I've spoken to you on this topic.

You've been given ample opportunity to resolve any difference you might have.

 

[Neil]

You wish to play a game of semantics with me.
Let me clarify: You have been told that your behavior toward CJ is unacceptable.
You continue the behavior that you have been warned for.

The next time will be permanent.

This isn't the second, the forth or even the tenth time I've spoken to you on this topic.

You've been given ample opportunity to resolve any difference you might have.

Ten times? Just making up numbers now to try and make me look bad? I asked you honest questions, you choose to avoid answering them. So much for fairness on here. I didn't say anything that was unacceptable. Far less than what is being said in other threads by others. The only difference is that my stalkers keep reporting everytime I post, and you just don't want to be bothered. You have shown in your response in other threads, or actually your lack of response, that you really don't care what is said about him, just who says it.

 

[Mr. Wilson]

Ten times? Just making up numbers now to try and make me look bad? I asked you honest questions, you choose to avoid answering them. So much for fairness on here. I didn't say anything that was unacceptable. Far less than what is being said in other threads by others. The only difference is that my stalkers keep reporting everytime I post, and you just don't want to be bothered. You have shown in your response in other threads, or actually your lack of response, that you really don't care what is said about him, just who says it.

That might just fit Miriam Webster's definition of harassment.

There are 38,000+ other people on this board and you chose to pester just one. So yes, the problem is who you are addressing more than what you say.


You have been given the opportunity to stop. Your choice.

 

[Mr. Wilson]

P.S.

What I am witnessing here is that you are like the guy that just got pulled over for speeding and you are crying to the cop about the people passing you by, pointing out that they are speeding too.

How unfair.

 

[CJ Wiley]

This "Aiming System" can by used as a check and balance to the TOI,

TOI is nothing more than a stun shot. It is also a limiting factor to really being able to move to ball around the table.

It more than likely TOI is used because someone does not know how to spin the ball.

TOI is an alignment/total playing system, not an Aiming System, of course this can be argued, however the ones now that are using TOI will know the difference. An Aiming System is like the "sights" on a gun, TOI is the Gun. (metaphorically speaking of course)

My Aiming System is showcased in 1997 in my DVD 'Ultimate Pool Secrets', it teaches to align the a spot on the cue ball to either the Center or Edge of the object ball. This "Aiming System" can by used as a check and balance to the TOI, however, it's not a total playing system like the TOI Technique is.

The TOI shifts from visual aiming to Creating Angles using your tip as a reference.

 

[Neil]

That might just fit Miriam Webster's definition of harassment.

There are 38,000+ other people on this board and you chose to pester just one. So yes, the problem is who you are addressing more than what you say.


You have been given the opportunity to stop. Your choice.

Yes, it is harrassment. But not by me, but by those CJ fans that feel the need to report every single post I make, but don't report all the others. I don't pester anyone. If I was, I would be saying a whole lot more about the things he posts on here, and the way he posts them. And, if you ever bothered to actually read my posts, you would see that all I do is point out a differing opinion. I'm not nasty about it, or anything else, just pointing out things I disagree with, or just having a conversation.

Instead of being worried about me, why don't you start looking at the real problem, which is those that are harassing me by reporting me all the time? They are your problem, not me.

You stated it's like getting pulled over. Well, it's not. Because I wasn't breaking any rules on here. It's nothing more than some little "rat" squealing in your ear, and you are tired of the squealing. So, instead of stopping them, you try and stop me. Here's a clue for you- when they do manage to get me banned, they will keep doing it to someone else. You already see them ganging up on Lou F., and they already got rid of Barton. You are just their little tool to get what they want, and they are playing you like a drum.