John Schmidt's and Corey Deuel's comments on aiming systems

With your vast knowledge of "advanced material" and your exceptional playing ability, it is a shame that you never share anything of value on this forum. It would be nice if you would actually try to share what you know rather than continue with your pattern of petty and negative posts.

I'm not saying this to be mean. I am actually hoping you might consider changing your ways. People might like you better and actually be receptive to your ideas and opinions if you actually tried to contribute constructively and positively to the forum.

Catch you later,
Dave
At least he's brief. Maybe we should count our blessings.

pj
chgo
 
No offense but I really don't bother with your website. Last I checked there was a lot of joking material on there. I'm sure you have some decent stuff mixed in though, just not sure if it would qualify as advanced material.

Just for your information, Dr. Dave has more info than any other site. Much of which is very advanced info. Now, if you are simply talking strategy and patterns, then we are talking about two different things when it comes to "advanced". In which case, you really should apologize to Dr. Dave.

His sight should be a requirement for all instructors to read. Now, I'm not saying I agree with everything he says. I don't. Such as his take on some aiming systems, which really is no different than Mark Wilsons take on them. But, there is MUCH to learn there! Much of which is very advanced!

As far as Stan goes, yes, I know he teaches much more than just CTE. He also teaches other aiming systems if the student so desires. Many on here want to pigeon hole him into only knowing CTE. They couldn't be more wrong!
 
Well the JB vs Lou match didnt settle anything, Stan taking a hiatus doesnt seem to have settled anything either.

Where was the OK Corral?...lol


au contraire.

JB made the match all about whether a "feel" player could beat the CTE system player.

Settled.

JB also made it about whether I could "get in the grease" with him.

Settled.

JB even made it about whether I'd even show up.

Settled.

Lou Figueroa
feeling pretty settled
 
The Settled

au contraire.

JB made the match all about whether a "feel" player could beat the CTE system player.

Settled.

JB also made it about whether I could "get in the grease" with him.

Settled.

JB even made it about whether I'd even show up.

Settled.

Lou Figueroa
feeling pretty settled

Nice Reply Lou,
Im happy to see you so content and I would say rightfully so but it seems there is still unrest in paradise. Such venom for of all people Dr. Dave? WTF? Really? The man is undoubtably the most prominent information sharing human on the planet as it pertains to Pool, much of it for FREE....

I remember a recent argument about how much feel is appropriate to play this game properly as if you can measure or reduce such a thing. There is always a contention here of some kind. I actually think there should be more playing and less mouthing so that these people who profess so much pool knowledge can stand up and let people see where they draw this extensive knowledge from.

I applaud your settledness, you put up and you have every right to crow all night if you so desire.
 
With your vast knowledge of "advanced material" and your exceptional playing ability, it is a shame that you never share anything of value on this forum. It would be nice if you would actually try to share what you know rather than continue with your pattern of petty and negative posts.

I'm not saying this to be mean. I am actually hoping you might consider changing your ways. People might like you better and actually be receptive to your ideas and opinions if you actually tried to contribute constructively and positively to the forum.

Catch you later,
Dave

Maybe you should participate in actual discussions on here instead of constant referrals and links to your website. Then you would be contributing positively to this forum.
 
Just for your information, Dr. Dave has more info than any other site. Much of which is very advanced info. Now, if you are simply talking strategy and patterns, then we are talking about two different things when it comes to "advanced". In which case, you really should apologize to Dr. Dave.

His sight should be a requirement for all instructors to read. Now, I'm not saying I agree with everything he says. I don't. Such as his take on some aiming systems, which really is no different than Mark Wilsons take on them. But, there is MUCH to learn there! Much of which is very advanced!

As far as Stan goes, yes, I know he teaches much more than just CTE. He also teaches other aiming systems if the student so desires. Many on here want to pigeon hole him into only knowing CTE. They couldn't be more wrong!

I'll admit i am a little biased because of the stupid, joking, and misleading info on his website about CTE.
 
Just for your information, Dr. Dave has more info than any other site. Much of which is very advanced info. Now, if you are simply talking strategy and patterns, then we are talking about two different things when it comes to "advanced". In which case, you really should apologize to Dr. Dave.

His sight should be a requirement for all instructors to read. Now, I'm not saying I agree with everything he says. I don't. Such as his take on some aiming systems, which really is no different than Mark Wilsons take on them. But, there is MUCH to learn there! Much of which is very advanced!

As far as Stan goes, yes, I know he teaches much more than just CTE. He also teaches other aiming systems if the student so desires. Many on here want to pigeon hole him into only knowing CTE. They couldn't be more wrong!

How about you prove it. Pick something out and post it that most advanced players don't know.
 
A video of Thorsten Hohmann and Mike Massey on lining up... www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPn3Wzp4NT8

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That clockwise rotation is what I suggested to Joey A regarding a comment he made about the cue being too close to his hip. That rotation 'clears' the right side 'out of the way' so as not interfere with the stroke.

I noticed this when I started missing some long full table shots when I had to jack up. I discovered that if I made a slight clockwise rotation it freed up room for the stroke to be correct.

Best 2 All,
Rick
 
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Thanks RK.
Folks would do well to approach the shot line in this manner.

But

This opens up a whole new topic. Are your eyes seeing what you think they are seeing from a standing position. The eyes lead and the body follows.

Here is an interesting experiment you may want to try.

On your table, snap a chalk line, diagonally, from the center of one corner pocket to the center of the other end corner pocket. That line is straight, no arguments there.

Place an OB on the line a diamond or two away from one corner pocket, now place the QB three diamonds away from the OB.

From the standing position do your normal body line up on the shot line as you see it.

Assuming your right eye is the strongest in this example, after you have lined your body up with the shot line, close your left eye, is the shot appear to you to be straight in? If your right eye is the strongest.....it will appear to be straight in.
Still, from the standing position, close your right eye, does the shot still look straight in, I'll venture to say that it doesn't , in fact it probably looks like the QB may miss the OB to the right.

Because our eyes are separated approx. 2 1/4" pupil to pupil we have a built in parallax error when objects are close to us. This error does not exist at a distance of approx. 30'.

If your strongest eye is your right eye you would do well to line up your body based on what your left eye is saying is straight in.

When this is done properly it will make no difference which eye you open or close the shot line will look straight in from the standing position. The parallax error, has for the most part, been corrected. And now, you can put your body on the proper shot line.

There is more to this and it has to do with when you bend over into the shooting position.

Have fun.

John

Good post John.

This is part of Gene Albrecht's Perfect Aim that I would suggest everyone get & then call Gene even before looking at the DVD.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick
 
How about you prove it. Pick something out and post it that most advanced players don't know.

Just one? How to aim a masse shot. Something I feel every advanced player should know how to do, yet the only ones I ever ran across that know how, I had already shown them in the past.

Freebie number two- How to determine just where the cb is going on a follow shot. Comes in super handy for safety play and general position.

OK, here's a third- How to aim a draw shot and not have to guess on it.
 
Good post John.

This is part of Gene Albrecht's Perfect Aim that I would suggest everyone get & then call Gene even before looking at the DVD.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

Cool, thanks Rick.

Yeah, Gene and I could never hook up for a one on one session. I wish he would try to come to St. Louis just one more time. To me it would be worth the $200. Hell, I would even buy him lunch. :)

John
 
... You only started playing one or two times a week about 20 years ago at the age of 47. You went from beginner to pro instructor immediately? Yep, sounds like you. Fyi, I've been playing more years than you since I started in my mid teens which brings it to 23 years on the table. ...

... Better question is what level were you 18-20 years ago when you first started playing pool and instructing kids at college since you've never been better than a C+ or B- player at your best which is probably right now over 65 years of age?

Please re-read what pj actually said:

I didn't start playing regularly (several times a week) until about 20 years ago. Since I retired a few years ago I've reached obsessive-compulsive level, playing just about every day.

pj
chgo
 
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Nice Reply Lou,
Im happy to see you so content and I would say rightfully so but it seems there is still unrest in paradise. Such venom for of all people Dr. Dave? WTF? Really? The man is undoubtably the most prominent information sharing human on the planet as it pertains to Pool, much of it for FREE....

I remember a recent argument about how much feel is appropriate to play this game properly as if you can measure or reduce such a thing. There is always a contention here of some kind. I actually think there should be more playing and less mouthing so that these people who profess so much pool knowledge can stand up and let people see where they draw this extensive knowledge from.

I applaud your settledness, you put up and you have every right to crow all night if you so desire.


I am pretty settled nowadays :-)

As to your udder point: there is a hard core group here that defends Stan and CTE in a fashion that would have gotten most of us whacked a long time ago.

They get no warnings about contributing to the discussion; they get no warnings about ad hominem attacks; and even Stan got pretty hysterical there for a while and made numerous personal attacks. But no warnings, much less any vacations.

Just look at the recent attacks against PJ and Dr. Dave. Mr. Wilson would have bopped all of them if those posts had been made by a "nonbeliever."

Lou Figueroa
 
Just one? How to aim a masse shot. Something I feel every advanced player should know how to do, yet the only ones I ever ran across that know how, I had already shown them in the past.

Freebie number two- How to determine just where the cb is going on a follow shot. Comes in super handy for safety play and general position.

OK, here's a third- How to aim a draw shot and not have to guess on it.

So you really think most advanced players don't know these things? Ok you got me, i'm wrong i guess.
For the record, I already knew.
 
I am pretty settled nowadays :-)

As to your udder point: there is a hard core group here that defends Stan and CTE in a fashion that would have gotten most of us whacked a long time ago.

They get no warnings about contributing to the discussion; they get no warnings about ad hominem attacks; and even Stan got pretty hysterical there for a while and made numerous personal attacks. But no warnings, much less any vacations.

Just look at the recent attacks against PJ and Dr. Dave. Mr. Wilson would have bopped all of them if those posts had been made by a "nonbeliever."

Lou Figueroa

Lou, I like you, but that is pure crap. If anything, it is the other way around. Those against it keep on making up stuff, and then mocking users of CTE for saying it. It's ridiculous the lengths that those against it for whatever reason go to. Learn from the system, or move on to something else. Because it has been proven over and over by many that the system works as described.
 
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So you really think most advanced players don't know these things? Ok you got me, i'm wrong i guess.
For the record, I already knew.

I know most don't. They go by feel on them, and that is all they have. If not on here, where did you learn those things, and can you describe how to do at least one of them?
 
... Because it has been proven over and over by many that the system works as described.

There has been no such proof. It has only been shown by some that they make shots from the initial visuals that they use.

There has been no proof that they are not modifying the pivots or sweeps nor has there been any proof that they are aligning center to the precise edge nor the edge to the precise points of A, B, & C.

I'm not saying that there is any intended misinformation as those adjustments are most probably of a subconscious subjective nature.

There has been no proof that more than one angle can be had from the visual alignments for each specifically defined pivot in each direction or supposed equal sweep.

You can say that it has been proven a million times & that will not make it so.

That is unless when you say 'as described' you mean by using one's individual subjective perception which is not objective.
 
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