Point is, there wasn't a lot of fear on Busty's part. He ended up beating Johnny the next 3 sets. Johnny quit loser. I think respect and fear are two different things.
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Point is, there wasn't a lot of fear on Busty's part. He ended up beating Johnny the next 3 sets. Johnny quit loser. I think respect and fear are two different things.
If there is a neutral racket,,,, Mike's in for a long nightMike can't play JA that way! He needs to rack. JA can give Mike the 5 out when it comes to table management!
Dude no offense but you seem to always have something negative to say about MD every chance you get. We get it, you don't like him as a person, which is very apparent from your post history, but to say Mike can't play JA without racking himself is like saying Shane can't play JA without breaking, just not true.
I personally have JA in this match because he has a tougher mental game and can probably stay focused longer, but MD got youth on his side and stamina do you never know. Regardless, racking or no racking for yourself, MD will still put up a fight.
Ok,,,, dude,,,,, sorry you feel that way! Yes, I don't like him, but I guess in your case I'm not allowed to state my opinion,,,, that's ok, I'm not too worried about you or anyone else for that matter, I will speak my mind, and if you don't like,,,, sucks to be you!
Now, back to the topic, I'm hoping you understand this,,,, if MD was playing sossei, Oscar Dominguez, Chris Bartram, even John Morra,,,, I would word things different, and yes, MD has an edge over those players! But we are talking about Johnny Archer!!! Even if Mike beats him, to me it doesn't mean much! MD is NOT in the same class of player as JA!
If you can't accept my opinion,,,, and hopefully your smart enough to realize and understand what the word opinion means,, don't know what to tell ya!
By the way, what I have with MD is personal, you should definitely go look that word up, I have my right to say whatever I choose to! If that is unacceptable to you,,,, I guess it sucks to be you! Now, unless you know MD and he is your friend, and your trying to stick up for him, that's fine and commendable! But even Saddam Hussein had people that really thought he was a nice guy! Hope you understand what I'm trying to say!
Remember this, there are 3 sides to every story! Your side, my side, and the truth!
Seek the truth! Maybe you should consider shutting you mouth(or fingers
) and opening your eyes and ears! Obtain all the knowledge you can on something, and then make and educated opinion.Thanks,
ELI
Ok,,,, dude,,,,, sorry you feel that way! Yes, I don't like him, but I guess in your case I'm not allowed to state my opinion,,,, that's ok, I'm not too worried about you or anyone else for that matter, I will speak my mind, and if you don't like,,,, sucks to be you!
Now, back to the topic, I'm hoping you understand this,,,, if MD was playing sossei, Oscar Dominguez, Chris Bartram, even John Morra,,,, I would word things different, and yes, MD has an edge over those players! But we are talking about Johnny Archer!!! Even if Mike beats him, to me it doesn't mean much! MD is NOT in the same class of player as JA!
If you can't accept my opinion,,,, and hopefully your smart enough to realize and understand what the word opinion means,, don't know what to tell ya!
By the way, what I have with MD is personal, you should definitely go look that word up, I have my right to say whatever I choose to! If that is unacceptable to you,,,, I guess it sucks to be you! Now, unless you know MD and he is your friend, and your trying to stick up for him, that's fine and commendable! But even Saddam Hussein had people that really thought he was a nice guy! Hope you understand what I'm trying to say!
Remember this, there are 3 sides to every story! Your side, my side, and the truth!
Seek the truth! Maybe you should consider shutting you mouth(or fingers
Thanks,
ELI
Damn you went all emo on me, chill out. You could've just said it was personal, no need for an essay or further insults.
Now back to the topic for real for real: I know MD right now is not equal to JA in his prime, but I'm talking about right now at this moment, who is the better player, according to consistency and tournament finishes you would have to say Mike, and it's not just because of his racking. Then again, someone above posted that this is gambling and not a tournament so you can't really call it. Sorry that I struck a nerve.
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Mike will rise to the occasion. A little bad blood between him and JA. Surprised JA is even up to playing. He's been sort of in semi retirement.
Lets be honest, Busty is a rather special case, especially back then when he was fairly young, in his prime, and an absolutely fearless gambler. I don't think Busty of that era would have ducked anyone on the planet, anyone who wanted to play would get played. He "might" have not pushed to hard against Efren out of respect, and the fact that Efren had some sick exhibitions he put out there at Busty's expense.
Busty in his prime would have beat SVB. Even if SVB could hold him off for a while in the start Busty simply would have kept going at him until he finally broke through, then he would torture him set after set event after event until SVB said "no mas".
I am not sure anyone was stepping up to Busty in that era, it says a lot that Johnny had the heart and game to try, but what Busty did that day shows why most people kept their money in their pockets when Busty was around, you could not even scare the guy with a 13 pack, he still thinks he has the edge, and he was right.
Well if there's bad blood between the 2 I would bet he's taking this much more serious than a tournament , and we may see a JA that we haven't seen in a while ,it could spell bad news for MD
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that would be a good thing.!
having said that, MD is vying for that big 2015 MOSCONI ring.
so why haven't either of them posted this info here on AZB for their paying fans?
No worries dude
I don't think you can get anymore chill than me you can't strike a nerve with me, the only people that can do that is my family because there opinions feelings matter to me! This sounds mean, but I really don't care, if I don't have a positive dialogue with someone, I tend to shoo them away like flies because I can't stand them! But, when I do have a positive dialogue, that's a different story! There are some people on here that think I'm a real nice guy and others will say I'm a complete and inconsiderate jerk! Guess what, I'm both
I gave you a good lesson in my last comment, here's another,,, always treat people the way you want to be treated! And by all means, if somebody tries to piss you off,, tell em where to go! That's what I do! You know why, because people who go around disrespecting and talking $hit everywhere are NOT worth my time!
There is someone watching us, stay true to yourself and others, because one day he may call upon you! Will you be ready able??
No worries dude
I don't think you can get anymore chill than me you can't strike a nerve with me, the only people that can do that is my family because there opinions feelings matter to me! This sounds mean, but I really don't care, if I don't have a positive dialogue with someone, I tend to shoo them away like flies because I can't stand them! But, when I do have a positive dialogue, that's a different story! There are some people on here that think I'm a real nice guy and others will say I'm a complete and inconsiderate jerk! Guess what, I'm both
I gave you a good lesson in my last comment, here's another,,, always treat people the way you want to be treated! And by all means, if somebody tries to piss you off,, tell em where to go! That's what I do! You know why, because people who go around disrespecting and talking $hit everywhere are NOT worth my time!
There is someone watching us, stay true to yourself and others, because one day he may call upon you! Will you be ready and able?? Will you be worthy??
Good luck
ELI
that would be a good thing.!
having said that, MD is vying for that big 2015 MOSCONI ring.
so why haven't either of them posted this info here on AZB for their paying fans?
I think Mark made the right decision , and I believe if Mike keeps him self in check and continues his fine play he will be a welcome addition to the team
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Well....
No offense to Mike D, but I think he is way outclassed by Archer. Mike is a great player, but I think Archer wins going away. Johnny has time-tested conditioning. And he has been one of the greatest players in America for many years, and STILL competes at the highest level.
I like Archer. (for my 2 cents worth.) But it could be a lot of fun to watch.
BLS.
No offense to Mike D, but I think he is way outclassed by Archer. Mike is a great player, but I think Archer wins going away. Johnny has time-tested conditioning. And he has been one of the greatest players in America for many years, and STILL competes at the highest level.
I like Archer. (for my 2 cents worth.) But it could be a lot of fun to watch.
BLS.
This is a negative statement about MD, you must be bashing him or stating complete falsehood comments! Oh wait, your not me,(liakos), sorry! I didn't realize you were stating an opinion! YOU are allowed! "Liakos" isn't
This comment is basically how I feel about both players! Great post!
The break can't be underestimated Mike after the break is play 7 or 6 ball I know that feeling now that I'm older I am lucky to make one , and it's a lot to fade ,, however JA is not my age I'm more than sure he will be spending a lot of time on his break , if he breaks well it's no contest he will win going away if he doesn't he's in for a dog fight
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This is awesome.
I look for Johnny to take it.
I look for Johnny to take it.
Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion, which is a highly informed one. It's obvious from this post that you have a very high opinion of Mike's game and if Archer plays like the Archer of 5-10 years ago, Mike will have his hands full, regardless of who racks or how the balls are racked, for these are two of the best breakers of the balls in the history of American pool, and I'm sure they'll show it when they match up. Johnny is a living legend for sure.
Where I'm a little surprised is that you aren't praising Mike for matching up with one of the all-time greats away from home. You've posted before that super-tough matches away from home are exactly what Mike needs to advance from being a dominant player in the Northeast to one of the world's most elite players.
I think that Mike will win this, but you are right in saying that it would prove no more than the young Mike being a better player than an Archer who plays a little below where he once did. The "Johnny has the pedigree argument" is suspect to me. So does Earl, but Mike beat him 25-11 when they played last winter.
Should be a nice match.
You are 100% correct! And I stand by what I said!
Johnny and earl are 2 different players! Obviously 2 of the very greatest! But Johnny has a mental toughness that very few have. Add the amazing ability,,, and you have a monster that destroys everything he sees!
Mike is an incredible player, no doubt about that! But, he's getting old
what he needed to do is the same as Shane did! Go out and play everybody everywhere! There is no substitute for experience. What held him back is his piss poor attitude and ruffling feathers he shouldn't of! You're an informed person yourself and you know what I'm talking about. I'm not saying it's impossible, but MD can't get any better! He has peaked!Even if he beats JA, I honestly don't think it's gonna matter! At the end of the day, who has the most battles won? Obviously JA, right? In both departments, tournaments and gambling!
I've said this before, he's a great "local" player! The only reason the "local" is there because he didn't get out and beat on everyone. Which he would of had a tough time at the beginning, but he would have pulled through
I'm talking about getting off this continent by the wayImagine if somebody shipped him off to PI for a couple yrs when he was 17-18 yrs old? He very well may be giving JA the last 3!
Either way, good luck to both, but I'm a fan of JA!
Great post, by the way
ELI
You are 100% correct! And I stand by what I said!
Johnny and earl are 2 different players! Obviously 2 of the very greatest! But Johnny has a mental toughness that very few have. Add the amazing ability,,, and you have a monster that destroys everything he sees!
Mike is an incredible player, no doubt about that! But, he's getting old
Even if he beats JA, I honestly don't think it's gonna matter! At the end of the day, who has the most battles won? Obviously JA, right? In both departments, tournaments and gambling!
I've said this before, he's a great "local" player! The only reason the "local" is there because he didn't get out and beat on everyone. Which he would of had a tough time at he beginning, but he would have pulled through
Imagine if somebody shipped him off to PI for a couple yrs when he was 17-18 yrs old? He very well may be giving JA the last 3!
Either way, good luck to both, but I'm a fan of JA!
Great post, by the way
ELI
I truly believe if JA didn't have a beautiful wife and family and other ventures we may be talking about him be the best that ever played , at least in rotation , American player ,
I would love to hear CJ
on this I don't think I'm far off ,
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