Johnny Archer's 13 Racks on Busty...Does the table have any value??

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Ky Boy

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SO, nearly everyone in pool has heard about the 13 racks JA ran on busty in a gambling session...then Busty asked him to flip it for another set and JA ended up losing. After the match they both signed the table with Francisco putting "Winner" beside of his signature.

Does this table have any added value other than the value of the table itself?

All replies appreciated.....thanks in advance!!!


Gary
 
I'd sure be surprised if it wasn't worth some money. Of course how much may depend on what kind of shape it's in. With any collectible, the value is in the eye of the person wanting to purchase it.
 
The table is a peice of pool history. For the right collector it may fetch double or triple the price of the actual value of the table.
 
I would think some added value may be attached but I am not sure. Thanks for the replies so far!!

It would be great if Jay or some of the other "all things pool" guys could lend their opinion!! :thumbup:


Gary
 
i cant imagine it having much added value from that match at this point in time. Id guess 10-20% above market at best.

Years from now when both players are gone, depending on how history views them, it could increase significantly imho.
 
Did they sign the table or the cloth on the rails? If they signed on the cloth then that cloth has to be removed to move the table and cannot be (to my knowledge) correctly re-installed. (The extra cloth is trimmed off after the cloth is stapled to the slate frames and does not leave enough cloth to be re-stretched and reinstalled.)

So if they signed the cloth I do not know if the table itself carries any extra value.
 
They signed the end of the table, it was an old Diamond in Toledo Ohio. When the room closed about 3 years ago I had first pick at any table there for purchase. I passed on the JA / Busty table as it was in rough shape. To me it didn't have any added value.
 
Ky Boy said:
I would think some added value may be attached but I am not sure. Thanks for the replies so far!!

It would be great if Jay or some of the other "all things pool" guys could lend their opinion!! :thumbup:


Gary
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I vaguely remember that one guy bought that table immediately.I was there during that match.:cool:
 
Nostroke said:
i cant imagine it having much added value from that match at this point in time. Id guess 10-20% above market at best.

Years from now when both players are gone, depending on how history views them, it could increase significantly imho.
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That is the correct answer!:cool:
 
Jerry Forsyth said:
Did they sign the table or the cloth on the rails? If they signed on the cloth then that cloth has to be removed to move the table and cannot be (to my knowledge) correctly re-installed. (The extra cloth is trimmed off after the cloth is stapled to the slate frames and does not leave enough cloth to be re-stretched and reinstalled.)

So if they signed the cloth I do not know if the table itself carries any extra value.
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Jerry,

They each signed the wood (skirting) at the end of the table. Busty at the head and JA at the foot of the table.

The table does show wear from being in a pool room but that's to be expected. I own the table and would entertain offers on it as well if anyone may be interested...


Gary
 
The provenance might bring some premium, but I doubt the 2x or 3x someone mentioned. Let's face it, how many people collect pool tables?
 
I was at that tournament, my buddy and I were walking around and were tired after a few late nights and went to bed, apparently just before the match started, we woke up the next day to find out what we missed... :frown:

Would have loved to have seen it. If I remember correctly, Archer ran 13 and then the next 2 of the next set as well, so 15 racks total, and as stated Busta hung in there and won. Takes balls, if a guy opened with even a 4 or 5 pack on me right out of the gates I'm probably picking another fight... :)

Scott
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
The provenance might bring some premium, but I doubt the 2x or 3x someone mentioned. Let's face it, how many people collect pool tables?
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I said the "right collector". 1%er's only. Prolly not anyone in this thread. Most of us on here are nitty pool players. Would take someone with some deep juice who is an avid collector. Hell, some collectors have Millions invested in cues. Why wouldn't they spend $6K for a piece of pool history?
 
Johnny-Busty

How about a tar rematch on that very table, race to 100 for $10,000. I like it!!!:thumbup:
 
When I first heard this story, I was told that Busty asked Johnny if he wanted to double the bet after the first set. Anyone know if this is true?
 
Hungarian Nut said:
I said the "right collector". 1%er's only. Prolly not anyone in this thread. Most of us on here are nitty pool players. Would take someone with some deep juice who is an avid collector. Hell, some collectors have Millions invested in cues. Why wouldn't they spend $6K for a piece of pool history?
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why would they pay twice as much as the next guy? U would have to have serious competition among a lot of collectors to reach those levels and i doubt they are out there at this point in time.
 
Nostroke said:
why would they pay twice as much as the next guy? U would have to have serious competition among a lot of collectors to reach those levels and i doubt they are out there at this point in time.
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Agree to disagree. But if you have Millions $6K for a piece of history is chump change..LOL
 
DRW said:
When I first heard this story, I was told that Busty asked Johnny if he wanted to double the bet after the first set. Anyone know if this is true?
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Actually he sprang out of the chair when he asked for doubling the bet.I was only few feet away when that happened. Busty`s steak horse for that match is my friend.:cool:
 
In my opinion the table has some added value but determining that value is difficult unless some collector has a desire to own it.

I really do appreciate all the responses!!! Thanks guys...


Gary
 
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