Journey to join the Pro tournaments ?

Yes, but if you include all the people that want to be part of a professional golf field, you need to finish 25th out of tens of thousands trying to go pro to earn that paycheck. The odds against one who is trying to become one of the 120 are astronomical. By comparison, in my opinion, becoming a Fargo 820+ is a piece of cake.

So, of course, you are right, but just a very tiny fraction of those who try to make a living from golf succeed, while pool offers a smaller living, but a much better chance of success.
Yep

I have friends in the +1/+2 hcp range, they can't cash a $500 check on one of the 100's of dinky little professional mini tours.

The comparison isn't even close.
 
Yes, but if you include all the people that want to be part of a professional golf field, you need to finish 25th out of tens of thousands trying to go pro to earn that paycheck. The odds against one who is trying to become one of the 120 are astronomical. By comparison, in my opinion, becoming a Fargo 820+ is a piece of cake.

So, of course, you are right, but just a very tiny fraction of those who try to make a living from golf succeed, while pool offers a smaller living, but a much better chance of success.
What you say is true about Pool, but PGA or other Better Organized Sports offer more financial stability. Sadly many Top Pool Player don't make much money after expenses.
 
Yep

I have friends in the +1/+2 hcp range, they can't cash a $500 check on one of the 100's of dinky little professional mini tours.

The comparison isn't even close.
Thanks for sharing.

About thirty years ago, there was a fellow who used to play pool in NYC who reached the quarterfinals of the US Amateur Golf event. He qualified for the PGA tour a year later, lost his card after year one, and never managed to get it back. It's near impossible to earn a PGA Tour card, and it may be even harder to keep it!
 
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Any ideas how to start gamble at the bar on 9 footers ? I meant how to let ranfom players know that you are willing to gamble on the table you are practicing individually on ?

Lets say, what if i want to play 8/9/10 balls game ? What would be a nice wager for random people to walk up ? And how to advertise
If you haven't seen multiple money match-ups at the pool hall, you need to watch and learn. You shouldn't play, yet.

But if you want to try, let the desk know you would like to play some and maybe they can find some competition. There may be some surprises, like "No, we never play 3 fouls."

Good luck.
 
Yep

I have friends in the +1/+2 hcp range, they can't cash a $500 check on one of the 100's of dinky little professional mini tours.

The comparison isn't even close.
I don’t think the “average +4” has a shot on tour. Maybe my estimate is off. But my WAG is that every guy on the Korn Ferry would be +4 or something at a club. Dunno. At the very highest level I don’t really see the handicap system working because the course conditions are so hard. You can’t really keep a course in US Open trim all year. So the guys who can break par on that are just an order of magnitude better than the “average + handicap”

So maybe a shot on tour. But what makes one + handicap able to keep a card playing in all conditions all over the country. So a hard competing real good + 5 or 6 etc…
 
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Yes, I play there on both 8/9 balls with 7 footers. The reasons I dont play much in open tournaments there is because each match up takes about 30-40 minutes, just sitting and watching other players

It doesnt take me anywhere. I see no forward directions going on from just playing these events. I spend more $$ on waiting and ordering drinks 😅
I dont have any fargo rate yet


I think you have answered your questions yourself. Tournament play at any level isn't going to be your cup of tea. Mine either although I played the occasional tournament. One of the things I really disliked was sometimes blowing through the "A" side then trying to stay warm while waiting hours for the "B" side to catch up. The hot seat can be one of the toughest things in competition.

Pool like almost any pursuit involves paying your dues. Your last few posts indicate you don't want to pay your dues. I suggest buying a top of the line motor home. Go ahead and enter the big pro tournaments that are truly open. Hire an assistant to watch the match boards and let you know when it is time to play. Meanwhile, kick back in the motorhome, nap, watch TV, Maybe have a fine looking gal or pal to keep you company depending on tastes.

Since you are playing in a handful of pro pool events every year you can tell everyone you are a pro pool player. I think there was a stray prince or two of the genuine royal family variety that went this route. They had millions backing them up, maybe billions. Rumor had it that one bought Efren Reye's cue for an eye watering sum. Unfortunately the cue wasn't a magic wand.

If I sound a bit harsh, I spent over twenty-five thousand dollars and a lot of work on somebody that thought they wanted to be a barrel racer in the eighties. Turned out they didn't want to be a barrel racer, they wanted so show up in pretty cowgirl clothes, sit on the horse while it won, then have admiring crowds fawn on them. Too bad it wasn't that easy. When you want to compete with the best at anything it requires a lot of dedication.

Without dedication the journey to join the pro tournaments is over before it begins.

Hu
 
Pool could be something if it was like other Sports, JUST ONE ORGANIZATION. To A ll Events, One Set of Rules. One group to pitch to potential advertises, saying we have 3 million member WorldWide, we are the One And Only Pool Sanctioning Group, Amateur & Professional EVENTS.
 
DCC 9Ball? Fargo 600 and some luck and you might get past a round or 2.

I view DCC a bit like the Expo. If you are going, you may as well enter because it gets you in for your entire time there too.

The DCC is filled with a bunch of C and D players. A 600 Fargo with some luck on their side will make it much farther than just a round or two.
 
I think you have answered your questions yourself. Tournament play at any level isn't going to be your cup of tea. Mine either although I played the occasional tournament. One of the things I really disliked was sometimes blowing through the "A" side then trying to stay warm while waiting hours for the "B" side to catch up. The hot seat can be one of the toughest things in competition.

Pool like almost any pursuit involves paying your dues. Your last few posts indicate you don't want to pay your dues. I suggest buying a top of the line motor home. Go ahead and enter the big pro tournaments that are truly open. Hire an assistant to watch the match boards and let you know when it is time to play. Meanwhile, kick back in the motorhome, nap, watch TV, Maybe have a fine looking gal or pal to keep you company depending on tastes.

Since you are playing in a handful of pro pool events every year you can tell everyone you are a pro pool player. I think there was a stray prince or two of the genuine royal family variety that went this route. They had millions backing them up, maybe billions. Rumor had it that one bought Efren Reye's cue for an eye watering sum. Unfortunately the cue wasn't a magic wand.

If I sound a bit harsh, I spent over twenty-five thousand dollars and a lot of work on somebody that thought they wanted to be a barrel racer in the eighties. Turned out they didn't want to be a barrel racer, they wanted so show up in pretty cowgirl clothes, sit on the horse while it won, then have admiring crowds fawn on them. Too bad it wasn't that easy. When you want to compete with the best at anything it requires a lot of dedication.

Without dedication the journey to join the pro tournaments is over before it begins.

Hu

My questions were clear, how do I spot out those pro events ? And how do I walk toward joining it

You want me to be dedicated ? Toward what ? Spending 3-4 hours a night to just have a couple matches that leads to no where ?

You want me to pay my dues, what is it ?

Or You just response to bash and that is how you enjoying this place ?

I saw only 1 place that offers open tournament. But what does that tournament lead to ? That tournament is for a small business to attract customers and be selling drinks and that is that. Even the waiters participated for over a decade and he never even joined any pros. That is not what I am looking to do
 
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I saw only 1 place that offers open tournament. But what does that tournament lead to ? That tournament is for a small business to attract customers and be selling drinks and that is that. Even the waiters participated for over a decade and he never even joined any pros. That is not what I am looking to do
Play in it. If you cant do well in a tournament like that you will have no chance at pro events.
 
Play in it. If you cant do well in a tournament like that you will have no chance at pro events.
I am not looking to win any events. How do you spot out where/when there will be open pro tournaments ? Is there a website or forum for it ?
 
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The way I read his posts, he has never played in any local room tournament. He has also never played in a league, such as APA or BCAPL. And he might be within a short drive of this, tonight:

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They accept players who don't have a FargoRate.
The owner of Fiddlestix is Chris Szuter 700 plus frago and one of the best players in Ohio no one talks about. If the OP is close to there playing in the tournamnets and watching Chris play should give him a good gage of where his game stands.
 
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I am not looking to win any events. How do you spot out where/when there will be open pro tournaments ? Is there a website or forum for it ?
You can go to the matchroompool.com to find WNT (world nineball tour) events, this is the only truly pro tournaments. You can go to the calendar at wpapool.com to see other tournaments. WPA tournaments are not necessarily "pro" tournaments, but pro players play in them.
 
Does anyone know how to start this journey ? So far I have heard that joining APA or BPA is the best course, but all are stuck in team playing matches. I want to start something more individual as sole player rather than a part of any team.

Thanks for your advises

If you need to ask, you are not only not on the right path yet, but you are not even born yet when it comes to playing at a top level, and are years from winning any matches at a pro level event. Start with lessons and playing in the weekly tournaments around you, or in a league if there are no tournaments. Once you are good enough to win against local good players, you will have the knowledge of the pro scene and will know how to find tournaments to play in. The knowledge will come naturally through watching matches, hanging out in pool rooms and talking to players.
 
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Yes, I play there on both 8/9 balls with 7 footers. The reasons I dont play much in open tournaments there is because each match up takes about 30-40 minutes, just sitting and watching other players

It doesnt take me anywhere. I see no forward directions going on from just playing these events. I spend more $$ on waiting and ordering drinks 😅

The point is that you need to get good enough to win those tournaments often, not that you will be magically whisked away to the land of Pro Players after you play in them. And yes, you will be sitting waiting for a match in tournaments. What do you think a tournament is like? You win a match, then can wait a few hours for the next one depending on the field and the place you are playing in.

This almost smells like a troll post, or you have a very poor idea how long it takes to get to the 725 Fargo level where the pro level of play is.
 
This cat has no idea. Can you imagine having to go to the internet to ask these questions? He is in desperate need of a friend and/or mentor. How did y'all learn to navigate the world of pool? I learned in a "real pool hall". Look up "osmosis".

Am I correct he asked how to match-up? And he wants to jump in a pro tournament? Someone best explain "dead money" to him.
 
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The point is that you need to get good enough to win those tournaments often, not that you will be magically whisked away to the land of Pro Players after you play in them. And yes, you will be sitting waiting for a match in tournaments. What do you think a tournament is like? You win a match, then can wait a few hours for the next one depending on the field and the place you are playing in.

This almost smells like a troll post, or you have a very poor idea how long it takes to get to the 725 Fargo level where the pro level of play is.
Read posts 51 & 53, the OP is looking to skip playing in anything but professional tournaments, skip getting any competitive table experience, skip learning what tournament play is all about, and it sounds like he wants to skip shooting at all if its not a professional tournament. Though unlikely is it possible that he has so much natural talent that he is ready to kick SVB's and Gorst's asses having never played in a tournament before. He simply wants to enter the next professional tournament ASAP. He's like me, if Red Bull would give me the keys to Max Verstappens F1 car and his grid spot on race day that I could compete in the next F1 race even though I have never even sat in an F1 car much less driven anything remotely similar.
 
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