Just a thought for a good pool movie.

MasterClass

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Just a thought.

Since there is no really good idea for a new pool movie, how about just doing a remake of "the hustler"? I realised that alot of pool players this generation have not heard or seen the movie.

Unlike in the past, now pool has got a vast world wide appeal. A good remake could stimulate the game.

Most importantly the remake should have a good director and strong cast.

What do you think?
 
I'm up for any pool newer Pool movie!!! (I've seen all the other ones A LOT NOW) I say go for it! ;)
 
We went over this about a year ago or....
AZ came up with the complete cast ....

I think it was Ed Norton as Eddie
Sacrlete Johanson as the girl
Bobby D as the stake


either way ...there is new blood around... I am interested to see what we cme up with this time.
 
The Hustler came out over 50 years ago. Movie goers today want action, sex and NOT the same old hustler stories. Not many will sit for long watching a 125 point 14.1 game...hell most don't even know what straight pool is.

I think to have a pool movie to be a hit at this point in time 50% or more of it would have to have a plot with nothing to do with pool. Maybe a Private detective (male or female) that can play pro level pool. I don't know the answer, even the detective plot doesn't seem like it would work. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
The Hustler came out over 50 years ago. Movie goers today want action, sex and NOT the same old hustler stories. Not many will sit for long watching a 125 point 14.1 game...hell most don't even know what straight pool is.

I think to have a pool movie to be a hit at this point in time 50% or more of it would have to have a plot with nothing to do with pool. Maybe a Private detective (male or female) that can play pro level pool. I don't know the answer, even the detective plot doesn't seem like it would work. Johnnyt

Hey...less than 47...not over 50!!! I'm old enough without you adding years on me!!!!

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Johnnyt said:
The Hustler came out over 50 years ago. Movie goers today want action, sex and NOT the same old hustler stories. Not many will sit for long watching a 125 point 14.1 game...hell most don't even know what straight pool is.

I think to have a pool movie to be a hit at this point in time 50% or more of it would have to have a plot with nothing to do with pool. Maybe a Private detective (male or female) that can play pro level pool. I don't know the answer, even the detective plot doesn't seem like it would work. Johnnyt

Hence a strong director and producer would be important to tweak the movie to appeal to todays crowd. But they have to preserve the essence that makes the hustler a great movie.

Didnt know that this idea was brought up before and discussed. Guess my search did not really go that far into a year ago. Hope it catches some real attention this time.
 
Johnnyt said:
The Hustler came out over 50 years ago. Movie goers today want action, sex and NOT the same old hustler stories. Not many will sit for long watching a 125 point 14.1 game...hell most don't even know what straight pool is.

I think to have a pool movie to be a hit at this point in time 50% or more of it would have to have a plot with nothing to do with pool. Maybe a Private detective (male or female) that can play pro level pool. I don't know the answer, even the detective plot doesn't seem like it would work. Johnnyt

There's an episode of "Miami Vice", where in order to gain entry into a speed boat race, Crocket gets into a game of pool with the owner of a (drooling nice place) that has a pool table, at a jet-set style party. Anyway, he breaks and runs out.

That was the first time I actually saw how nice pool balls look against a gray table cloth, coincidentally similar to the picture I posted in the thread I created earlier today, regarding pool ball pictures. (Whew, one sentence)

John, you reminded me of that episode, with your notion of a "detective that play's high level pool".

He put his Ferrari up as a stake.
 
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I don't think anybody outside of pooldom even has a clue about just how unique this culture really is.

For example, when hollywood does a movie on pool, we get Tom Cruise swirling & twirling his "Balabushka" (like anybody would really risk dropping one of those!) while slicking his hand thru his hair. That is so FAKE. If somebody came in to most of our real action joints and tried to do something so stupid, in all likelihood, that stick & a part of his anatomy would become partners and he would hop out like he was riding a pogo stick.

To really show the reality, they would need the whole cast of characters that we have in a real pool room. My idea would go something like this.

First, it would have to start out like a series of one hour shows on ESPN. Just like poker has exploded in popularity, pool needs to follow that train of thought. Start with the Derby City Classic. Interview the players and the fans sweating the match that would be featured. Include the world class woofing. Have a "Bucktooth" in the background yapping it up. Go from table to table and show key moments in the selected matches. Who knew who Phil Helmuth was before the camera started following him around and giving him enough air time to show his personality? Does anybody think that most of our greatest players are known to John Q. Public? But, if somebody had a camera on Earl Strickland (ssshhh for now, Jimmyleggs, here me out...:D ) for as much time as the poker boys get, that that kind of behavior wouldn't attract more fans? Then, you have someone following SVB around, with interviews of him spliced in between matches. How about recording Grady & Billy just having breakfast together? In other words, building up the interest in pool by first building up interest in a cast of characters.

This has worked for series like "The Contender" and the UFC, as well as poker. When outsiders develop an interest in the characters / players involved, then an interest in the game should follow.

My contention is to follow the map layed out by the poker boom. Get colorful & witty announcers (imagine Billy & Grady unleashed), key in on the personalities of the characters, quirks & all, show the excitement and tension among the railbirds & follow these guys or have a series thru-out the tourney, and the real side of pool that has captured us will be exposed to the general public.

If somebody came to a U.S. Open 9 Ball Championship and tried that "Werewolves of London" BS, I would look for somebody like JohnnyT to make splinters out of the nearest house cue!:D

We're in the age of REAL-TV. Let's show them what we really got to offer!

(This has TAR written all over it for their next step)
 
The problem is everyone has an idea on how a pool movie should be. At the end of the day it will appeal to some and not to others. So why not just stick to what is tried and tested and tweak it a little and not change it too much.
 
MasterClass said:
The problem is everyone has an idea on how a pool movie should be. At the end of the day it will appeal to some and not to others. So why not just stick to what is tried and tested and tweak it a little and not change it too much.
You mean like the remake of Bad News Bears?
Joey~Does not get why classics need to be remade~
 
To keep up with the day and age?

Identifiable actors and actress to this generation.

etc. just an opinion.
 
Something similar to Rounders but with pool and a Godfatherish kick. I could see Matt Damon playing a pool hustler. Throw in Al Pacino, Christopher Walking (love him), Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci and it would be some kind of entertaining flick that would grab the attention of more than just pool players.
 
hilla_hilla said:
Something similar to Rounders but with pool and a Godfatherish kick. I could see Matt Damon playing a pool hustler. Throw in Al Pacino, Christopher Walking (love him), Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci and it would be some kind of entertaining flick that would grab the attention of more than just pool players.

Yeh, "The Billiard Supremacy", "The Billiard Ultimatum".

Jason: Bourne in a pool room.
 
There's talk about a movie being made starring Jack Black as Kid Delicious, based on the book that was written about him.

An old friend and I were thinking about doing something like this, but once we heard about the Jennifer Barretta movie...our idea was shot to hell. lol

I'd personally like to see Freddy "The Beard" in a pool movie as a stake horse/coach who has all these stories to tell, as he is an awesome story teller.
 
MasterClass said:
Just a thought.

Since there is no really good idea for a new pool movie, how about just doing a remake of "the hustler"? I realised that alot of pool players this generation have not heard or seen the movie.

Unlike in the past, now pool has got a vast world wide appeal. A good remake could stimulate the game.

Most importantly the remake should have a good director and strong cast.

What do you think?
Maybe, I'd love to see somebody try it, but it will be hard to match the original. Things just came together for that movie, it was the right time and the right place.
 
Somewhat related, when I used to play in an APA league one of my first and most persistent thoughts was that, an APA league night is a perfect vehicle for a situation comedy. There were so many characters just begging to be immortalized like "Kramer" was. Every week the regular cast of strange "characters" plus a visiting cast of "characters". Of course some episodes would have to take place away from the bar/poolroom, but I really think with the right writers it would work.
 
MasterClass said:
Just a thought.

Since there is no really good idea for a new pool movie, how about just doing a remake of "the hustler"? I realised that alot of pool players this generation have not heard or seen the movie.

Unlike in the past, now pool has got a vast world wide appeal. A good remake could stimulate the game.

Most importantly the remake should have a good director and strong cast.

What do you think?

No no no no no no no!

New Hollywood BUTCHERS classics like these!
Just look at what they did to Flight of the Phoenix!
 
IMHO, McGoorty would be the way to go. I've known non-players who loved the book. IIRC, Byrne has approached people about this, but it never got off the ground, to date.
 
Just make a story about a huge payout tournament trail, with the best poolplayers in recent history spending a year playing each other for big stakes and a shot at number one at the end of the year? With a gladiator themed kind of appraoch!
Oh wait.
Kevin Trudeau already did that one.....
Nevermind
 
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