Kamui Black Hard Tip just installed

Rain-Man

Rain-Man

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Hi all -

First let me say I already am of the opinion that Kamui Black tips are the best tips out there, period. I carry, sell, and install just about every tip on the market at my place, so I am biased, but its not because I sell them (I sell all the tips, but when asked always recommend Kamui's).
Having said that, I've been playing with a Kamui Black Medium on all my shafts for a few years now and absolutely loved them. But I especially loved them when they got down to the last few layers after tons of playing time on one, which led me to start thinking awhile ago, "hey, if I really like this tip when its nearing the end of its life, is it because the tip has hardened over time from the constant pounding on it? Maybe I should try a Kamui Black Hard next time?". Well, I was always to afraid to take the plunge and try a hard one for fear of either messing up my game with something new, or just wasting the time and money by putting one on if I was just going to hack it off after one night of trying it out... Let me just say, I wish I would have listened to myself long ago. Wow, I put the Kamui Black Hard tip on yesterday and went and played THE BEST pool I've ever played last night. The tip is the NUTZ!! There was ZERO adjustment period for me, and the tip played perfect. I love it and just wanted to let anyone out there who likes a firmer tip and may have been wondering the same thing, go for it on your next tip install. You wont regret it...
 
There was a match between SVB and someone (I don't remember who). The Kamui rep was in the commentator's booth (Kamui was a sponsor of the tournament).

The regular commentator mentioned the SVB uses a Kamui brown hard tip. The Kamui rep laughed and said "I don't recommend the brown hard tip for anyone who doesn't have a stroke like Shane's," adding "most players will be better off with a medium tip."

I guess the hard tip is a little too hard for the average player :eek:
 
bdorman said:
There was a match between SVB and someone (I don't remember who). The Kamui rep was in the commentator's booth (Kamui was a sponsor of the tournament).

The regular commentator mentioned the SVB uses a Kamui brown hard tip. The Kamui rep laughed and said "I don't recommend the brown hard tip for anyone who doesn't have a stroke like Shane's," adding "most players will be better off with a medium tip."

I guess the hard tip is a little too hard for the average player :eek:
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Hard tips give you the best theoretical transfer of energy to a certain spot on the cue ball because they compress less meaning they hit the cue ball with a smaller surface area. End result is more rotation of the cue ball when using English. The consequence is increased miss cues. You definitely need a good solid stroke to play great with a hard tip. But also I think a lot of people would benefit from not hitting the ball so hard and not going so far outside on the cue ball when using English.
 
What is the difference between the brown and the black? If they are both medium or both hard is the brown harder than the black or is it the other way around? Or are they both the same hardness just a different color?
 
Joe Pickens said:
What is the difference between the brown and the black? If they are both medium or both hard is the brown harder than the black or is it the other way around? Or are they both the same hardness just a different color?
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I have heard that the black plays a touch harder than the brown. Overall I've heard that the blacks are just better, but this could just be hype over one being more expensive.
 
Joe Pickens said:
What is the difference between the brown and the black? If they are both medium or both hard is the brown harder than the black or is it the other way around? Or are they both the same hardness just a different color?
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the black is suppose to be humidity resistant
 
Good to hear that you have found a tip the suits your play style, I too like a harder tip thats low down you the ferrule. But I rather just use my soaked and pressed triangles than pay that much for one tip.
 
Houstoer said:
on the tar interview both svd and daz said they play with a kamui brown med.
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I noticed that too in the recent interview. I think that was about a year after the match where they said Kamui hard.

Actually, the way SVB talks about tips (and other gear) you get the impression that he doesn't really care. Just like, "hey, put a tip on it, any tip."
 
Just had a Kamui Black medium installed this past week. I put in a 6 hour session today on a Brunswick 8 footer.

This tip is sweet!!!!! All Im saying :)
 
Rain-Man said:
Hi all -

First let me say I already am of the opinion that Kamui Black tips are the best tips out there, period. I carry, sell, and install just about every tip on the market at my place, so I am biased, but its not because I sell them (I sell all the tips, but when asked always recommend Kamui's).
Having said that, I've been playing with a Kamui Black Medium on all my shafts for a few years now and absolutely loved them. But I especially loved them when they got down to the last few layers after tons of playing time on one, which led me to start thinking awhile ago, "hey, if I really like this tip when its nearing the end of its life, is it because the tip has hardened over time from the constant pounding on it? Maybe I should try a Kamui Black Hard next time?". Well, I was always to afraid to take the plunge and try a hard one for fear of either messing up my game with something new, or just wasting the time and money by putting one on if I was just going to hack it off after one night of trying it out... Let me just say, I wish I would have listened to myself long ago. Wow, I put the Kamui Black Hard tip on yesterday and went and played THE BEST pool I've ever played last night. The tip is the NUTZ!! There was ZERO adjustment period for me, and the tip played perfect. I love it and just wanted to let anyone out there who likes a firmer tip and may have been wondering the same thing, go for it on your next tip install. You wont regret it...
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Congrats on finding a tip you like. I'll stick to pressed Triangles.
 
bdorman said:
There was a match between SVB and someone (I don't remember who). The Kamui rep was in the commentator's booth (Kamui was a sponsor of the tournament).

The regular commentator mentioned the SVB uses a Kamui brown hard tip. The Kamui rep laughed and said "I don't recommend the brown hard tip for anyone who doesn't have a stroke like Shane's," adding "most players will be better off with a medium tip."

I guess the hard tip is a little too hard for the average player :eek:
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Yes, I agree. It is for a player with a good stroke, but I sort of just assumed that if a player likes a harder playing tip that they most likely have a good stroke. Your average player will miscue much more than with a medium tip. My attempt was to offer an opinion for the player who already prefers, and knows how to play with a firm/hard tip.. Anyone who installs tips will probably agree with me, but I'm still always amazed at how much tip life is still left on their "old" tip when they come in and ask for a new one. I still always remind them that they have a lot of tip left, maybe even a month or two sometimes, depending on their frequency of play, but the usual reply is "I'm miscuing too much". I know that that is a product of a stroke that hasn't been fully developed yet (that's the nice way of saying it,lol), and do what they ask.. So yes, I agree that most players ARE better off with the medium tip. I made the post aimed for players that like a firm/hard tip already.. Sorry, I should have explained that better in the first post..
 
Majic said:
the black is suppose to be humidity resistant
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The Kamui blacks are also made with more "elasticity" than the tans. They put much more spin on the cue ball even at slower speeds.. Some players find it a little difficult to adjust to the amount of spin and throw they get with the blacks, but if they give it enough of an adjustment period they quickly learn that the blacks basically give you "more with less". On shots they would usually use a full tip of English, they can now do the same with a half a tip of English. This ultimately will over time allow them to pocket more balls more consistently, because they can now aim truer. Most players at the higher levels pretty much only miss "make able" shot when they don't adequately adjust when using "extreme" English. Rarely do you see a TAP 7, or APA 9 miss a "normal" shot. Usually when they do and ask them what happened there, the answer is usually something like "I used waaay to much outside/inside, and threw it too much".
 
Rain-Man said:
The Kamui blacks are also made with more "elasticity" than the tans. They put much more spin on the cue ball even at slower speeds.. Some players find it a little difficult to adjust to the amount of spin and throw they get with the blacks, but if they give it enough of an adjustment period they quickly learn that the blacks basically give you "more with less". On shots they would usually use a full tip of English, they can now do the same with a half a tip of English. This ultimately will over time allow them to pocket more balls more consistently, because they can now aim truer. Most players at the higher levels pretty much only miss "make able" shot when they don't adequately adjust when using "extreme" English. Rarely do you see a TAP 7, or APA 9 miss a "normal" shot. Usually when they do and ask them what happened there, the answer is usually something like "I used waaay to much outside/inside, and threw it too much".
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I have an OB Classic with a Kamui SS & you are very much correct. It was virtually unplayable until I took several layers off of it.

You are also correct on the throw factor. The easy makable shot that I rattle most is when shooting softer with english, the ball just throws a ton, but I just can't seem to make myself stay closer to center when hitting that soft because I don't want to mis on the under throw side. It's a catch 22 situation.

Regards,
 
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