Kamui Black Soft help

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I bought a new cue that has Kamui Black Softs, I have been playing with Kamui Mediums. These tips seem to be way softer than the mediums and don't play the way that I would want them to. I have been told by a few people to break them in and they will be great. I have played 3 times with them and still squishy any advise on how to break them in?:confused:
 
when i tried kamui soft, after a few days of playing, it would glaze over every day! after 2 weeks of that, it was history. this is about 1 1/2 yrs back, maybe they have improved.
 
Two methods.

Play more with the tip. They will harden up some. Sorry I can't tell you how long it will take cause it depends on you.

Or

Cut down the tip to about four layers with a dome. You may be sacrificing about half of your tip and will have to replace it sooner but it will be perfect immediately.


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I've got almost a year on my current Kamui Black Soft...about ready to replace, but it's absolutely perfect. It's probably a medium hard tip, now. It took about 3 months to harden up to where it is now, but I was playing lights out with it from the start. It will harden to your playing style (how firm you generally hit) and requires almost no maintenance. It helps to keep the tip at no more than a nickel radius or flatter, it works much better that way, I hardly ever miss-cue and still get all the action/juice I want.

Cutting it down may help, but it will still play soft for a while. I lightly pick the surface when it glazes over (once every 12 hours of play or so), just don't dig in or twist the pick. Once I get the bevel right, I never need to redo it, the chalk will slowly wear down the tip in the same bevel if you chalk correctly, and normal play will keep the tip at the desire shape and hardness, too. It's my favorite tip of all time.
 
Take 3 or 4 or 5 layers off. The SS actually seemed to be sticking to the ball until I did that as suggested by someone here on AZB. It was much better & very soon got 'perfect'.

Good Luck & Best Wishes,
Rick
 
I'd cut it off and put the tip that I like on it...

No need to waste time on something that you already don't have a feel for...
 
Either play with it til it hardens up (it will), or 'bounce' the tip off a concrete floor about 100 times. That'll harden it up, but then you'll have to trim and burnish the sides, and reshape it (preferably on a lathe)..
 

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i'm not being sarcastic, my question is, why but a "SS" kamui tip if you have to harden it? bounce on the concrete 100 times? why not buy a kamui hard tip? and glazing every 12 shots (my kamui glazed after 1 day of shooting), WTH? just curious...
 
oldplayer said:
i'm not being sarcastic, my question is, why but a "SS" kamui tip if you have to harden it? bounce on the concrete 100 times? why not buy a kamui hard tip? and glazing every 12 shots (my kamui glazed after 1 day of shooting), WTH? just curious...
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You wouldn't buy a Super Soft, or a Soft if you want a Medium.. But the original poster stated that he bought a cue with a Kamui Soft already on it, and is use to, and prefers a Kamui Medium.. He could always have it replaced with what he prefers, but I think his question was asked to try and save a few bucks...

I used to play with a Kamui Black Medium, and would find that I preferred the tip when it was thoroughly wore in, pounced down from playing, and down to the last 3-4 layers. I can sometimes be dense and slow learnded, but eventually I just started using a Black Hard. Solved the problem.. :thumbup:
 
Every new tip I get I hit the unshaped tip with a wooden mallet on both sides for about 5 minutes.

Then I put it on and stab the shaft with the new tip on into a work bench for anoth few minutes.

Then I cut it down to 6 layers then hit it with a mallet for a few mins. Try not to damage your cue when you do this ;)

Then I shape it. Tip ends up with 2-3 layers plus a dome and lasts about 3 months. It really is overkill to do all this but I've become set in my supersticious OCD ways. Played with a Kamui B S for years, then went onto Kamui B H and finally gave up on Kamui and went back to Moori Fast tips. Best tips I've ever played with.

Kamui honestly need to do something about the rapid glazing over. Becomes a pain having to pick your tip halfway through every match. But if I was you, I'd get a M put on if that's what you're used to.
 
oldplayer said:
when i tried kamui soft, after a few days of playing, it would glaze over every day! after 2 weeks of that, it was history. this is about 1 1/2 yrs back, maybe they have improved.
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I went thru the exact same thing.... I switched to a tan soft and haven't had one glaze since....
 
Wow!!! Thanks for all the replies!! I like a harder tip and right now this isn't cutting it. I wanted to see if I can save a few bucks and not replace them but I think I am going to replace them.. Rain-man do you use ultraskins? If so what tip should I try?
 
For the most part most of the replies are pretty much right.... Anytime a tip is not engineered to play as a specific hardness you will have the tip harden over it's life usually ending up as a medium hard or hard version of what you buy.....

This is one of the hardest things to get right at least in my experience... By using hardeners and elastomers I can tailor a tips feel and for the most part eliminate the compressing into a harder tip...

This means that I cannot just press tips to a different hardness and selling them as soft, medium or hard.... I select the leather type and then modify the process and additives to create a tip that will feel and play a certain way... The pressing force is the same for all 3 grades to ensure a month from now your soft will still be within 2 pts of where it was born..... same for the medium or the hard.....

Moori changed the game when they went layered only because he decided the Japanese pig was the skin that would be superior to what was on the market at the time.... My take on it is that thru chemistry I can create single layered tips that will be more durable and play as well as or better than most layered and will be every bit as consistent....

I'm still doing sampler packs of the 3 grades of the Ki-Techs at $15... I can't promise anyone that they will fall in love with any of the 3 but I can promise you that if you do you will gets months out of them before you will see any significant changes in the feel and playability of them.....

That's more than enough sales drivel.... Back to the topic... If you like the medium either beat the crap out of the soft or have a medium put on... If you are one of the guys still buying a soft and beating it with a hammer of repressing it every time... Save yourself the hassle and buy a medium or hard.... It's not magic it's science.....

Chris
 
It will take a few months of use for the Soft to feel like a Med tip or harder. I found that the best performance for the Kamui Black Soft tips I have used was the first few months of use. I never though they were "squishy" though, just a bit more elastic, more like a firm rubber eraser.

Never really noticed them glazing over, but I will try a different tip as I did not like the price vs how long they lasted on the same hardness ratio.
 
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