Kamui chalk, Im considering it, OPINIONS/Experience, ALTERNATIVES, Thanks!
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I'm a sucker for any new pool items that I think might help me in my quest to be a better player. I held back on trying the Kamui chalk at first because I couldn't see how it could be worth paying that much for one piece of chalk. I later had to try it and I like it. I'm not a cheap person and I bought three pieces and I used two of them. I keep one in my cue case for when i'm out playing and one at home on my home table and I still have one that's unopened.
I've always chalked between shots religiously and it was part of my pre-shot routine. That's not necessary with Kamui chalk. You can chalk once and play a complete game without chalking!
Even though I liked how the chalk worked on my cue it disrupted my pre-shot routine and I found myself chalking after some shots and not chalking after others. It caused me to be eratic about chalking my tip. Don't get me wrong it works great, but I don't want to just waste it by chalking after every shot to get myself back into my pre-shot routine rhythm so I quit using it.
I use Blue Diamond chalk now and I chalk after every shot. The Kamui chalk works great and I still have 1 new piece and 2 partials and I use it now and then, but my main chalk is Blue Diamond.
James
I've always chalked between shots religiously and it was part of my pre-shot routine. That's not necessary with Kamui chalk. You can chalk once and play a complete game without chalking!
Even though I liked how the chalk worked on my cue it disrupted my pre-shot routine and I found myself chalking after some shots and not chalking after others. It caused me to be eratic about chalking my tip. Don't get me wrong it works great, but I don't want to just waste it by chalking after every shot to get myself back into my pre-shot routine rhythm so I quit using it.
I use Blue Diamond chalk now and I chalk after every shot. The Kamui chalk works great and I still have 1 new piece and 2 partials and I use it now and then, but my main chalk is Blue Diamond.
James
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I bought a piece a few months ago. I play allot of pool,,almost every day. When I first started using it,,it was great,,it seemed.
I made a effort to NOT chalk as much as I used to with masters chalk. That took a few days to slow the chalking down.
But still found myself ,,when I had a hard shot,,I would walk around the table and chalk my stick while thinking about it.
I seemed to get good English with it, with out miscuing,,for the next few weeks.
Then,,slowly,in matches I noticed I was miscuing often. I didn't give it much attention at first,,figured maybe I was stroking bad.
But after awhile,, it was too much,,,I noticed (sometimes) when I chalked,,,the Kamui ,,when wiped across my tip,,would wipe all the chalk off. Leaving a clean,completely un-chalked tip.
It was very odd to say the least.Something that would stick like glue at first,,will not stick at all now.
It is not the tip ,guaranteed!!!(well almost)
I quit using it. I could then take Masters chalk and it worked perfectly on the same tip.
If I chalk the tip with Masters first,,,then the Kamui will stick like glue for a long time.
I refuse to go through all that to be sure chalk is on my tip.
I have 3/4 piece of Kamui chalk in my case and not using it. I do plan on putting a different tip on my stick soon and try it again. But for now I'm done with it. I don't believe the tip is the issue.
Maybe I am still chalking too much with it,IDK?? Has anyone else had this happen??
I made a effort to NOT chalk as much as I used to with masters chalk. That took a few days to slow the chalking down.
But still found myself ,,when I had a hard shot,,I would walk around the table and chalk my stick while thinking about it.
I seemed to get good English with it, with out miscuing,,for the next few weeks.
Then,,slowly,in matches I noticed I was miscuing often. I didn't give it much attention at first,,figured maybe I was stroking bad.
But after awhile,, it was too much,,,I noticed (sometimes) when I chalked,,,the Kamui ,,when wiped across my tip,,would wipe all the chalk off. Leaving a clean,completely un-chalked tip.
It was very odd to say the least.Something that would stick like glue at first,,will not stick at all now.
It is not the tip ,guaranteed!!!(well almost)
I quit using it. I could then take Masters chalk and it worked perfectly on the same tip.
If I chalk the tip with Masters first,,,then the Kamui will stick like glue for a long time.
I refuse to go through all that to be sure chalk is on my tip.
I have 3/4 piece of Kamui chalk in my case and not using it. I do plan on putting a different tip on my stick soon and try it again. But for now I'm done with it. I don't believe the tip is the issue.
Maybe I am still chalking too much with it,IDK?? Has anyone else had this happen??
Amen Brother
I also have the habit of keeping the local pool room stocked with chalk , same reason I wont buy 27 dollar chalk . I would be giving it away
I also have the habit of keeping the local pool room stocked with chalk , same reason I wont buy 27 dollar chalk . I would be giving it away
Kamui chalk is nice, but stupid expensive and most importantly (and the reason why i have stoped using it) the baby blue colour leaves ugly streaks all over the table.
You also get more buildup of chalk on the CB.
Predator is a little pastier than Master or Blue Diamond, the downside is that you get smurf coloured hands after a few hours of playing.
I think Blue Diamond is the cleanest chalk, but it`s also the most gritty.
I really have no problems with Master chalk.
To me the most important thing is getting fresh pieces, so i can get the right pattern in the chalk.
If the chalk is used correctly (meaning no ferrule sized hole through the chalk) it`s no problem getting good contact and when i misscue it`s my fault 100% of the time.
You also get more buildup of chalk on the CB.
Predator is a little pastier than Master or Blue Diamond, the downside is that you get smurf coloured hands after a few hours of playing.
I think Blue Diamond is the cleanest chalk, but it`s also the most gritty.
I really have no problems with Master chalk.
To me the most important thing is getting fresh pieces, so i can get the right pattern in the chalk.
If the chalk is used correctly (meaning no ferrule sized hole through the chalk) it`s no problem getting good contact and when i misscue it`s my fault 100% of the time.
Pretty much what I would have written.
It is very good about covering and staying on the tip...for a long while! The first time I used it, I played 7 straight racks of 8-ball without chalking....without a single miscue.
The downside...besides being way too expensive...is that it leaves tiny little specks of blue chalk all over the cue ball...and who wants to be stopping the game a lot to be wiping the cue ball off???
And....I understand what td was saying about your chalking routine. I couldn't get used to walking around the table without the chalk in my hand and using it as part of my PSR. Messed me up enough that I quit using the Kamui and went to using Predator and Blue Diamond, and I like those brands too!!!
I still have a brand new in-the-package cube of Kamui from Christmas two years ago I'll probably never open.
Maniac
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I have enuff Pre Flag to last 2 life times. Some Blue Diamond and a few cubes of Russian left.
I bought a cube of Skamui to see what the deal was. Yep, I guess you can say that it does everything that it is advertised to do, but still, nothing that another good quality chalk won't do for you or has been doing for decades.
For a test, I started chalking every shot and it still lasted for some time. I have a bit left and mostly use it as a base coat and then apply Pre Flag.
I might do that once or twice a set.
For me, a little too pricey for someone who is always going to chalk once every one or 2 shots.
I may buy another at some point but in no hurry, as I have other things to think about while playing other than looking at my tip and timing my chalkings.
I bought a cube of Skamui to see what the deal was. Yep, I guess you can say that it does everything that it is advertised to do, but still, nothing that another good quality chalk won't do for you or has been doing for decades.
For a test, I started chalking every shot and it still lasted for some time. I have a bit left and mostly use it as a base coat and then apply Pre Flag.
I might do that once or twice a set.
For me, a little too pricey for someone who is always going to chalk once every one or 2 shots.
I may buy another at some point but in no hurry, as I have other things to think about while playing other than looking at my tip and timing my chalkings.
I love pro's & cons....
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Masters has become so brittle! Predator is the better chalk now
Don't waste your money. And if you feel the need, send me $20 and I'll send you the cube I wasted my money on.
i on my 2nd cube of kamui chalk in 3 years now. i lost my 1st cube after 2 years.
i had my 1st cube on a magnetic chalk holder and i guess i brushed up against something and it fell off. after a couple months i decided to buy another cube. this time i bought a cuetec magnetic chalk holder which has a stronger magnet.
after a lil trial and error i found this method works best for me.
i found after use for a while the chalk builds up on the tip and its hard to get a new smooth even layer when you chalk after each shot. .i put a base coat on now and then use masters during my match...it seems to work a lot better that way and i can still chalk before each shot if i want with no problem.
when i am thru with playing i take a slightly damp paper towel and make sure i get all the chalk off my tip. you can not absolutely get it all off by just wiping it off with a dry rag...it just won't come off.
i threw away the zip lock patch the chalk comes on because its a pain in the ass to get the cube in and out and zip locked. i leave my chalk in the chalk holder and stick it on the belt clip and put it all in a zip lock sandwhich bag making sure i get as much air out as possible before zip locking it.i roll it up and put it in my case with no problem.
using this method i found even after 2 years the chalk was as fresh as when i bought it.
all i have used is the 0.98. when i went to get my 2nd cube i was interested in trying the 1.21 but my billiards supply owner told me he personally did not think it was as good as the 0.98 so i stayed with it.
my answer to the 2 main questions that always come ....just my opinion of course.
is it better than all the rest. yes i believe so.
is it worth the price... that is subjective to each individual person.
i will say in my case the cost is not a factor considering how long it lasts. a cube last forever if you don't lose it
.i was playing league 5 days a week and just cut it down to 3 days a week last month. i play in 1 or 2 tournaments a month. been to both napa and apa nationals this year and have only used about 1/4 a cube so far.
i had my 1st cube on a magnetic chalk holder and i guess i brushed up against something and it fell off. after a couple months i decided to buy another cube. this time i bought a cuetec magnetic chalk holder which has a stronger magnet.
after a lil trial and error i found this method works best for me.
i found after use for a while the chalk builds up on the tip and its hard to get a new smooth even layer when you chalk after each shot. .i put a base coat on now and then use masters during my match...it seems to work a lot better that way and i can still chalk before each shot if i want with no problem.
when i am thru with playing i take a slightly damp paper towel and make sure i get all the chalk off my tip. you can not absolutely get it all off by just wiping it off with a dry rag...it just won't come off.
i threw away the zip lock patch the chalk comes on because its a pain in the ass to get the cube in and out and zip locked. i leave my chalk in the chalk holder and stick it on the belt clip and put it all in a zip lock sandwhich bag making sure i get as much air out as possible before zip locking it.i roll it up and put it in my case with no problem.
using this method i found even after 2 years the chalk was as fresh as when i bought it.
all i have used is the 0.98. when i went to get my 2nd cube i was interested in trying the 1.21 but my billiards supply owner told me he personally did not think it was as good as the 0.98 so i stayed with it.
my answer to the 2 main questions that always come ....just my opinion of course.
is it better than all the rest. yes i believe so.
is it worth the price... that is subjective to each individual person.
i will say in my case the cost is not a factor considering how long it lasts. a cube last forever if you don't lose it
.i was playing league 5 days a week and just cut it down to 3 days a week last month. i play in 1 or 2 tournaments a month. been to both napa and apa nationals this year and have only used about 1/4 a cube so far.
I like Triangle Chalk and Blue Diamond but Masters still works just fine.
I've tried Kamui and it lasts a little longer on tip applications but it's over-hyped.
I went back to Blue Diamond and it's a lot less expensive and plays just as well.
I go through one box of Blue Diamond every 18 months (2 pieces) and the cost
is just a fraction of what Kamui costs and Blue Diamond plays every bit as clean.
I went back to Blue Diamond and it's a lot less expensive and plays just as well.
I go through one box of Blue Diamond every 18 months (2 pieces) and the cost
is just a fraction of what Kamui costs and Blue Diamond plays every bit as clean.
Flash, your post jogged my memory from when I was using it.
At a later date, I found that the tip was easily glazing. I had to scuff my tip at least once a session to even twice some days. I figured that couldn't be good for the over all life expectancy of a tip.
So much for only having to chalk once a game if you can't get the chalk to stick.
Depending on the brand of tip, a person should only have to give a tip a light scuff once a week or two. Maybe longer.
I believe that the biggest thing for myself was having to set the butt of the cue on the floor to look and see if I needed chalk.
After making a ball, I want to study the table lay out and the constant of looking at my tip was too distracting.
Like I mentioned, for the little I have left of a cube, I have been using it as a base but that really doesn't do a whole lot of good either.
At a later date, I found that the tip was easily glazing. I had to scuff my tip at least once a session to even twice some days. I figured that couldn't be good for the over all life expectancy of a tip.
So much for only having to chalk once a game if you can't get the chalk to stick.
Depending on the brand of tip, a person should only have to give a tip a light scuff once a week or two. Maybe longer.
I believe that the biggest thing for myself was having to set the butt of the cue on the floor to look and see if I needed chalk.
After making a ball, I want to study the table lay out and the constant of looking at my tip was too distracting.
Like I mentioned, for the little I have left of a cube, I have been using it as a base but that really doesn't do a whole lot of good either.