Kamui Gator Grip

[angldemn]

I bought one of these a few months ago use it a little and wasn't terribly impressed, and kept on using a sandpaper in a tip shaper when I felt I needed it.

On a recent whim I discovered what it's good for. BREAK TIPS! It effortlessly creates a perfect fine rough surface my Samsara break tip that holds chalk like a long lost lover.

I think the playing tips are just too soft to benefit greatly from it, but I've never used a better tool for really hard tips, not even close.

 

[Cdryden]

I bought one of these a few months ago use it a little and wasn't terribly impressed, and kept on using a sandpaper in a tip shaper when I felt I needed it.

On a recent whim I discovered what it's good for. BREAK TIPS! It effortlessly creates a perfect fine rough surface my Samsara break tip that holds chalk like a long lost lover.

I think the playing tips are just too soft to benefit greatly from it, but I've never used a better tool for really hard tips, not even close.

I have had pretty good luck with mine. Sand paper works well also but the two shouldn't be used in the same way. If you are looking to sell it let me know, I know a guy that's wanting to buy one.

 

[joewag2]

I really like mine and use it on all my tips,.. kamui, Sniper, and Moori. They're all med/hard to kamui blk/hard tho.

I'll wipe all the chalk off before using the Gator, lightly chalk, then hit it lightly with a tip pik, then chalk it gain.

And 'yes', works great on my Samsara break tip! :thumbup:

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[angldemn]

No, I'm actually happy with it. Break tips don't usually hold chalk very well, and this tool works very well for that.

I did watch the video on how to use it; a light scuffing just works better for me on my playing tips.

 

[Black-Balled]

Chalk on a break cue? Not necessary.

 

[angldemn]

Chalk on a break cue? Not necessary

How interesting. I assume this is the static coefficient of friction for phenolic on phenolic. I can't seem to find the numbers right off, but I'm still surprised it's as high as 3.

I wonder if it holds for Samsara leather as well.

 

[joewag2]

Chalk on a break cue? Not necessary.

Agreed. It's still a habit tho.

When I'm practicing with my BreakRak, I never chalk between breakes and usually will break about 40 times a session.



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[stljohnny]

I use my Gator Grip on my playing cue and have found it gives the most uniform scuffing out of all the other tip scuffers i've tried. Chalk holds well to the tip; I don't have to mess with it hardly at all - but maybe every couple of weeks. I use a Kamui Black Soft. I also use it on my samsara as well. I'll never go back to a file or pick or tapper.

 

[metallicane]

I love my Gator grip. Never thought about using on break cue though. Interesting.

 

[Black-Balled]

y=mx+b.

cobble fikii cheeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

 

[angldemn]

Where did you find that chart black balled?

Here it shows very different numbers.

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/physics.html#properties

ball-ball coefficient of friction (m): 0.03-0.08
This should be close to a phenolic tip to a ball.

cue-tip-ball coefficient of friction (m): 0.6
I assume this is a chalked leather tip; ~about ten times greater.

 

[TheThaiger]

How do you actually use the thing? I rushed out and bought it, fully expecting it to change my life, it didn't, so has gone straight into the 'draw of waste not to be talked about again' ever since.

The youtube clip has the chap hacking it and then rolling it. I can never work out exactly what you're supposed to do with it.

 

[angldemn]

How do you actually use the thing? I rushed out and bought it, fully expecting it to change my life, it didn't, so has gone straight into the 'draw of waste not to be talked about again' ever since.

The youtube clip has the chap hacking it and then rolling it. I can never work out exactly what you're supposed to do with it.

I find the hacking to be the worst thing you can do with it. I roll the break tip back and forth in a ring near the outside, then closer in and over the top a little.

Mine sat unused for a while too. For me, the usefulness with playing tips still seems pretty minimal.

 

[Black-Balled]

Google...searched images for 'no chalk'.

I have no idea what is is indicative of.

Where did you find that chart black balled?

Here it shows very different numbers.

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/physics.html#properties

ball-ball coefficient of friction (m): 0.03-0.08
This should be close to a phenolic tip to a ball.

cue-tip-ball coefficient of friction (m): 0.6
I assume this is a chalked leather tip; ~about ten times greater.

 

[Black-Balled]

here is another interesting graph re: chalk:

 

[angldemn]

Google...searched images for 'no chalk'.
I have no idea what is is indicative of.

I am so daft I had no idea you were joking. :thumbup:

Here is the page it's from, about using climbing chalk on hands.
http://www.tetonat.com/2008/09/08/leave-the-climbing-chalk-at-home/


I think I'll keep the chalk on my break cue.

 

[Black-Balled]

This compares chalk and cheese:

This compares chalk and cheese: only a very small percentage of the new migrants shown would have been eligible to go on waiting lists, and an even smaller proportion would have actually put their names down, for a variety of reasons. An important one is that much of the growth shown is from the new EU countries, most of whose nationals did not initially qualify for social housing anyway

 

[angldemn]

:kma:

 

[Montana Mike]

I have been using the Gator Grip since June and it is the best tip accessory I have ever had without a doubt.