Kamui vs. Sniper
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Thanks to all that responded
Dakota Cues said:
IMHO the Kamui's Mediums are superior (spin, holding chalk, longevity) to the Medium Mooris. Snipers do feel a bit harder but they hold chalk very well and spin the ball more than adequate.
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SirBanksALot said:
Thanks for your input.
I guess what I'm hoping to find is a Kamui tip that "Grips" like a Sniper, but has a softer feel than a Sniper.
Does anybody feel there is a tip out there, Kamui or otherwise, that fits that description?
Thanks
Hi Dakota,Dakota Cues said:
Diamondback is the softest layered tip out there.IMO. I've tried all the others. This tip will definately grip more than the others. I recomend this tip to all the soft tip lovers out there.
Agreed.......Sniper; the Kamui's glaze over and get hard.Fatboy said:
Dakota Cues said:
The Kamui Soft fits this description perfectly. In my little test, it grabbed just as well as the Sniper and indeed, it is a little softer.
I'm not sure how some folks can say Kamui's glaze over faster than Snipers. As I posted earlier in this thread, I've compared the above two tips on identical shafts and I didn't find any detectable difference in performance or glazing over for that matter.
Dakota Cues said:
I have Kamui ordered for my new cue with OB-1 shafts. Mike Capone (cuemaker) said he likes the Kamui better than Moori, so I will give them a shot. He said you get more tip for you money with the Kamui (it actually has more volume), and he says they don't laminate as much as the Mooris.
IMO, I think the Moori mediums grab better than the Sniper. The Sniper is a good tip, but I think it is overrated. Maybe it is because I don't like hard tips though, but I am more than ready to cut all of my Snipers off.
. But I couldnt stand it any longer so I went back to a basic tip.
http://www.poolndarts.com/p-6677-Sniper-Laminated-Tips/
medium hardness according to the durometer testing on the meuller website.. a little softer than a moori medium.
medium hardness according to the durometer testing on the meuller website.. a little softer than a moori medium.
WesleyW said:
Because they are hard, or at least medium hard. Here's a quote from Crown City Corey on this from a different post.
CrownCityCorey said:
I don't know if they get harder (but very slowly) over time, and that's why they start to lose favour with some players. Again, I'm not disputing the grip these things have, but they are at least medium hard, not soft, and soft(er) is what I'm looking for without losing the grip part of the equation.
My friend had one put on his cue- from the standard tip that was on his lucasi. Honestly, his stroke is lackluster, his play is sub par, and he can't do anything with other cues that he can with that Kamui medium tip. I'm waiting to put one on myself, but I've never seen a piece of equipment help someone out as much as that damn tip. For me right now; a layered tip= Sniper, a single layered tip= Sumo.
Yeah, I saw this too and it surprised me. My experience with Everest (Two different tips) vs Sniper (Also two different tips) was that the Everests were substantially harder than the Snipers. In fact, the Everest on the new 314-2 shaft I ordered was like a rock compared to my 10 month old half scuffed away Sniper. I don't know what to make of it. I'm open to suggestions.
The cuesmith I use stocks and installs almost every tip under the sun including Sniper and Kamui and has an absolutely fantastic reputation for doing some of the best work around. When I took my two identical shafts to get retipped, I already had three Kamui tips, a Medium, a Medium Soft, and a Soft that I had ordered from Seyberts. I told him I wanted to have a new Sniper on one 314-2 and one of the Kamui's I brought on the other. I wanted to try something a little softer than the Sniper and he said that the Kamui Med Soft is most like the Sniper in hardness and if I wanted to go softer than a Sniper with a Kamui, then the Kamui Soft was the way to go.
I've been playing with them for the last couple months, switching back and forth, and besides the Kamui Soft being slightly softer than the Sniper, (Not by as much as I was expecting) the performance, the grip factor, just about everthing is so close that I keep having to double check to see which one I am using after I'm done.
At any rate, that's my two cents. Actually, it cost me a bit more than that to find this stuff out.
Thanks for your input Poet.
I think that's what I was getting at. The Snipers seem to grip the CB like a softer tip, but they feel a bit harder than a softer tip. Again, I like the way they play, but as far as feel I like a softer tip.
It sounds like the Kamui Soft might be the way to go as far as your experience, as well as your cuesmith's opinion, have stated as well.
I think that's what I was getting at. The Snipers seem to grip the CB like a softer tip, but they feel a bit harder than a softer tip. Again, I like the way they play, but as far as feel I like a softer tip.
It sounds like the Kamui Soft might be the way to go as far as your experience, as well as your cuesmith's opinion, have stated as well.
Fickle lover!
Fall back in love with the tip!.... This is rare to happen but I know what happened to your tip. Humidity plays a big part to applying chalk to a tip. Chalk by nature is dry and humid air will attract to it. After loading up the Kamui Tip with so much chalk and pushing the chalk into the porosity of the tip... that will cause the tip to feel harder. Try this experiment, put the tip in water. You will see a lot of chalk come out of that tip! Take a preventative measure and sand the top of the tip after your night of playing. It will lengthen the life of the tip and you will be back in love with Kamui all over again.
For all of you who surf AZ and have a Kamui issue or a question of any kind.... ASK!... If I can't answer the question right away I will be sure to find the answer for you!
Fatboy said:
Fall back in love with the tip!.... This is rare to happen but I know what happened to your tip. Humidity plays a big part to applying chalk to a tip. Chalk by nature is dry and humid air will attract to it. After loading up the Kamui Tip with so much chalk and pushing the chalk into the porosity of the tip... that will cause the tip to feel harder. Try this experiment, put the tip in water. You will see a lot of chalk come out of that tip! Take a preventative measure and sand the top of the tip after your night of playing. It will lengthen the life of the tip and you will be back in love with Kamui all over again.
For all of you who surf AZ and have a Kamui issue or a question of any kind.... ASK!... If I can't answer the question right away I will be sure to find the answer for you!
Kamuitipsdotcom said:
sounds like very good advice !
I love ALOT of my tips but they get harder after a month, and removing layers isnt solving it. I have a sniper that when it was new was amazing to play with, now i can't tell the difference with a 50c tip from a housecue.
Your advice sounds logic, and ill do this everytime now.