Kevin Trudeau's Book "Natural Cures"
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Actually I would say that is the opinion of almost anybody with a functional brain stem. According to the people who have studied the problem like Stephen Hawking over population and it's effects is probably the number one disaster facing the planet and we won't have to wait a thousand years it could reach a critical state in the life times of the children alive today.chefjeff said:
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macguy said:
Dissing me personally or using dishonest ad populum arguments don't help your case, Macguy.
Here's one link I found on a search that refutes your assertion about the "problem" of overpopulation:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3918673a75a0.htm
And here's one about the myth of running out of oil:
http://www.billofrightspress.com/in...&page=product&product_id=509&h_cat_level=main
Enjoy,
Jeff Livingston
rackmsuckr said:Well, I just stuck my finger in the book and used that one as an example. I would DEFINITELY buy this book. The basis for all disease he states is toxicity and exposure to things that aren't healthy to our bodies - some are naturally occurring, but we are getting in too high of doses.
Here is a better example for you - KT's cure for high cholesterol. I am choosing this one because I will have to do the least explanation for it. LOL
Causes: Food, allergies, candida, lack of exercise, Vitamin E and calcium deficiencies.
Cure: Vitamin E, calcium, omega-3s, red wine, mangosteen juice (referred to in a lot of his cures).
I did not know what mangosteen juice was or know what it does, so I looked it up online. This is from one company that sells it:
http://www.911healthshop.com/xango-mangosteen.html
Sorry, this part is lengthy, but you can skip it if you want to.
Virtually unknown in the West, mangosteen has been used for thousands of years in Chinese, Ayurvedic, and folk medicine throughout Asia.
Despite the fact that mangosteen has only recently been discovered in the West, there have already been literally hundreds of research papers and third party studies conducted on mangosteen and xanthones throughout the world, corroborating what folklore medicine has known for centuries: Mangosteen Works!
Dawn breaks over the jungles of Southeast Asia and begins to burn away the nighttime mists. Although it is early, the street side produce markets in villages and towns throughout the land are already bustling with activity, for today is different. In these tropical climates, most fruits and vegetables are available any time of year, but today the open-air markets are humming with an almost electric anticipation. This only happens twice a year. Every six months. That's the harvest cycle for the fruit prized above all others. The Queen of Fruits! For countless generations, the people of Southeast Asia have valued the mangosteen above all other fruits. These are people intimately acquainted with the plants of the rain forest. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of edible fruits, nuts, stems, and roots. And yet only the mangosteen carries the label The Queen of Fruits.
Why does the mangosteen deserve such a title? Certainly a major reason is the role the mangosteen played in ancient Southeast Asian medicine. Traditionally utilized to control fever and ward off infections of every kind, the whole mangosteen fruit was used and revered.
But the people of early Southeast Asia weren't all that different from us. Yes, they recognized and valued the medicinal benefits of the mangosteen. But what really caught their fancy was the taste! Difficult to describe, yet impossible to forget.
Mangosteen: Queen of Fruits
Although almost unheard of in the temperate zones of North America and Europe, mangosteen is so prized by inhabitants of tropical rain forests that it is universally known as the Queen of Fruits and the Fruit of the Gods.
About the size of a tangerine, the ripe mangosteen has a smooth, dark purple rind encasing snow-white fruit. Unlike other tropical fruits that are so unusual and obscure that eating them requires an "acquired taste," mangosteen has a sweet, mild flavor that appeals to everyone, beginning with the first bite.
Limited to tropical zones with abundant rainfall, the mangosteen tree takes 10 years to mature and bear fruit. Fully mature trees can be up to 80 feet tall, and may produce thousands of individual fruits each year.
In Southeast Asia, where the mangosteen is predominantly grown, the people value this exceptional fruit for its premium taste and heavenly flavor. In fact, when Queen Victoria tasted this imported delicacy in the mid-1800s, she promptly declared it her favorite fruit.
Although readily available in season throughout Southeast Asia, until now the mangosteen fruit in its whole form has never been commercially available in North America.
Good For the Body - Heaven For the Tongue
Traditionally utilized to control pain, fever and to ward off infections of every kind, to protect against disease, increase energy, and as a natural anti-inflammatory, the whole mangosteen fruit has been used and revered for thousands of years.
But the people of early Southeast Asia weren't all that different from us. Yes, they recognized and valued the medicinal benefits of the mangosteen. But what really caught their fancy was the taste! Difficult to describe, yet impossible to forget.
David Karp, writer for Gourmet Magazine describes the flavor of the mangosteen best in a recent article in the July 2003 issue called "Meet the Mangosteens."
"I cut open a thick rind to reveal six snowy white, almost translucent segments that were like little eggs nestled in a jewel box. The flavor was almost unbearably exquisite - a sweet-tart melding of elegance and opulence that had echoes of fruit of every climate. Think of cherimoyas, lychees, and peaches mingled into one soft, moist, fragrant mouthful. I understood at last why many people consider mangosteen the finest fruit in the world-and why Queen Victoria is said to have offered a knighthood to anybody who could bring her one."
-David Karp, The Fruit Detective, Meet the Mangosteens, Gourmet Magazine, July 2003, pp. 88-89
A Family of Powerful Phytonutrients
While most people know about the antioxidant benefits of Vitamins C and E, far fewer are aware of the incredibly potent antioxidant power of xanthones. Xanthones are natural chemical substances that have recently won high praise from numerous scientists and researchers. Xanthones have been studied for their medicinal potential, since they demonstrate a number of pharmaceutical properties:
Supports microbiological balance
Maintains immune system health
Promotes joint flexibility
Provides positive mental support
What's remarkable is that the mangosteen - not just the inner flesh, but the whole fruit - represents the single greatest known supply of these tremendously beneficial xanthones. The pericarp, or rind, of the mangosteen is particularly rich in xanthones, which represent the next generation of powerful phytonutrients; phytonutrients that will change the future of dietary supplements.
One Medical Doctor actually uses a mangosteen food supplement in his full-time medical practice. He became so enthusiastic about his results with his patients that he recently published a book on the benefits of the mangosteen plant and its extremely wide range of health applications.
"Mangosteen extract has multiple health benefits. This simple fact is both its greatest asset and its greatest liability. Unfortunately, many people will never try it because of its claims of effects across the full spectrum health concerts. They say, 'No one product can do all that!' But my patients know better...The Mangosteen Works!"
-J. Frederic Templeman, MD,
Author of "Mangosteen, The X-Factor"
Mangosteen: More Powerful Than Dozens of Fruits Combined!
A new laboratory test known as ORAC (Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity) has shown that an ounce of mangosteen juice has 20-30 times the ability to absorb free radicals than one ounce of most fruits and vegetables.
The ORAC test is one of the most accurate ways to measure the ability of antioxidants in a certain substance to absorb free radicals.
Graph attached.
I can't believe I am wasting my time on this, but here goes:
The chart you show is very powerful. However, as is often the case with vitamins, "more" does not always mean "better". This is because the human body can only absorb so much of a substance, regardless of its benefits.
Such is the case with antioxidants. Antioxidant capacity can only be increased by 3,000 to 5,000 ORAC units daily. This is because the antioxidant capacity of the blood is tightly regulated. Anything over the upper limit is redundant and is secreted by the kidneys. In other words, by taking 17,000 ORAC units, your body absorbs 5,000 units (which is the level of antioxidants found in prune juice, by the way) and the rest is basically, well, toilet water.
So why not spend $4-$5 a bottle on some pomegranite or prune juice, instead of $37 a bottle (according to one website) on mangosteen juice?
macguy said:
This guy just cracks me up!
average age in the past.
Low average age in the past is attributable to several things. LAck of western medicine is not one of them. It was lack of cleanliness, lack of knowledge, poor hygiene practices and battle and or animal attacks and the inability to properly fight infection. Western medicine is much better at fighting infection, but as to the rest all you need is good awareness and knowledge. Western medicine does not support laymen knowledge, in fact, just the opposite, and KT's book, regardless of motive, is just pointing out that lack of knowledge and trying to show the abuses of the FDA and pharmaceutical companies. It is not necesarily the idiots buying his book, or even the conspiracy theorists, but rather the people who are not soo inundated in paradigmical thought that they can't see past their own noses to truths that are patently obvious to anyone with a logical thought process and a little cynicism.
In facat his book says that for things like broken bones and accidents requiring surgery western medicine is far superior, but for fighting diseases it is sorely lacking.
macguy said:
Low average age in the past is attributable to several things. LAck of western medicine is not one of them. It was lack of cleanliness, lack of knowledge, poor hygiene practices and battle and or animal attacks and the inability to properly fight infection. Western medicine is much better at fighting infection, but as to the rest all you need is good awareness and knowledge. Western medicine does not support laymen knowledge, in fact, just the opposite, and KT's book, regardless of motive, is just pointing out that lack of knowledge and trying to show the abuses of the FDA and pharmaceutical companies. It is not necesarily the idiots buying his book, or even the conspiracy theorists, but rather the people who are not soo inundated in paradigmical thought that they can't see past their own noses to truths that are patently obvious to anyone with a logical thought process and a little cynicism.
In facat his book says that for things like broken bones and accidents requiring surgery western medicine is far superior, but for fighting diseases it is sorely lacking.
A little bit of knowledge is dangerous Macguy. Especially when you take whatever mythical premise that suits and apply it to your agenda.macguy said:
Here are some truths that contradict you points.
1. Lengthened life spans are a result of the general improvement in living standards such as availability of food, clean water, clean clothes and housing, brought about by the increased productivity of freer market economies.
2. Resources are not depleting, but increasing. Resources are created by technological advances. eg. Oil was not a resource, but a curse to land owners 150 years ago. The elements consituting resource compounds do not disappear, but can be re-constituted economically given the right technologies and economic incentives.
These things are well known to many economists who study them, but anathema to mainstream media and public schools.
where is a cure?
Doctors don't cure disease.... Name one cure from western medicine for any disease that doesn't involve taking a drug for the rest of your life or taking a drug until a certain level is reached combined with a change in lifestyle? Because if you have to take a drgu for the rest of your life, then it's just a reduction in symptoms not a cure, and if it requires a lifestyle change then it is the lifestyle change, not the drug that cures the disease...
And one thing about taking medicine is that with all of the side effects that require additional medicine to treat, that continue on and so forth.... if you want to eat hormone treated hamburgers and chemically treated produce and end up taking twenty prescription medications by the time you're fifty that's fine, just don't complain that medical insurance is too expensive. this last part wasn't directed at you Mick.
Me, I'd rather eat organic salad for the rest of my life and exercise regularly.... I don't think there's any reason to go overboard, but come on, eating fat laden chemically treated crap all the time to excess... you're just asking for it. Don't expect anyone to save you from that.....
Mick56 said:
Doctors don't cure disease.... Name one cure from western medicine for any disease that doesn't involve taking a drug for the rest of your life or taking a drug until a certain level is reached combined with a change in lifestyle? Because if you have to take a drgu for the rest of your life, then it's just a reduction in symptoms not a cure, and if it requires a lifestyle change then it is the lifestyle change, not the drug that cures the disease...
And one thing about taking medicine is that with all of the side effects that require additional medicine to treat, that continue on and so forth.... if you want to eat hormone treated hamburgers and chemically treated produce and end up taking twenty prescription medications by the time you're fifty that's fine, just don't complain that medical insurance is too expensive. this last part wasn't directed at you Mick.
Me, I'd rather eat organic salad for the rest of my life and exercise regularly.... I don't think there's any reason to go overboard, but come on, eating fat laden chemically treated crap all the time to excess... you're just asking for it. Don't expect anyone to save you from that.....
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Colin Colenso said:
In order to make the point you have to assume the absurd. All the things you mention would go hand in hand with other scientific discoveries also extending to medicine. To make my point I have to keep people technically in the middle ages.
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That is how they are trained. To try different prescriptions till one may reduce symptoms. Sometimes, a simple lifestyle change will work as good, or better, with no side effects. I get a kick out of the commercials on tv. Take this drug for allergies, or high cholesterol, or whatever. Usually, the side effects look worse than the disease.
A great many of diseases are known as "Western" diseases. They were unknown of in other countries, till those people adopted the "Western" diet. Junk food, and highly proccessed food, with added chemicals and chemical vitamins. Hard to stay healthy eating that stuff.
I'll concede that there are areas of medicine that have improved greatly. Mainly in the surgical field, or treatment of life endangering sickness.macguy said:
However, I think some pharmaceutical developments are largely responsible for many common ailments.
My apologies for appearing rude. I got out of the wrong side of bed this morning...feeling better now
ok are you arguing science or medicine?
Ok is your argument for science or modern western medicine?
Yeah exactly, to make YOUR point you would have to keep everyone in the middle ages, no one is arguing that PROGRESS isn't good, just that a lot of what western medicine stands for today is NOT progress, but rather abuses engendered by the FDA and pharmaceutical companies in order to make a larger profit.
macguy said:
Ok is your argument for science or modern western medicine?
Yeah exactly, to make YOUR point you would have to keep everyone in the middle ages, no one is arguing that PROGRESS isn't good, just that a lot of what western medicine stands for today is NOT progress, but rather abuses engendered by the FDA and pharmaceutical companies in order to make a larger profit.
Mick56 said:
Any honest doctor will tell you he can't do more for you then you can do for yourself. Just like a car or anything else preventive measure are better then trying to fix the damage once it is done. I support most everything KT says along the lines of preventing disease and natural good health probably more then most. Thing is, he sells the book on the premise he has the answers to curing, as well as preventing diseases. My wife and I believe in and live a healthy life style and have been vegetarians for over 30 years although we never talk about it or push our views on anyone. I have never drank or smoked nor have I ever taken a recreational drug. One room in our house is devoted to exercise equipment and is used everyday. I don't want to sound like KT but my wife and I don't get sick, ever. I do four miles a day on my treadmill and hit the heavy bag and speed bag for like a half an hour, some weights and stretching and my wife likes her yoga. To make a long story short, I believe in staying healthy but have problems with KT's actual motives.
Have you seen his latest Infomercial. It has just started airing and he has a completely new act. He now says he is a former medical industry insider and is a whistle blower and reporter and that is why they are after him and trying to keep him quiet. The only medical industry he has been involved in was probably the fake cancer cures he was selling a few years back. What he is now doing is to try to take advantage of laws that protect whistle blowers the way he has used the free speech amendment to his advantage. I think when you see it even if you are one of his supporters you will be shaking your head. You are going to be embarrassed when you see it.
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JAM,JAM said:Yeah, I know I can click the "X" in the upper right-hand corner and afford myself the opportunity to choose what to read on AzBilliards, but as most are wont to do from time to time -- expressing their beloved opinions -- I am developing a disdain for these KT and IPT threads designed for the sole benefit of bashing or deameaning the two entities respectively.
There is one school of thought that because of my affiliation with a current IPT member that I am only providing positive opinions about the IPT and Kevin Trudeau for personal reasons; thus, I have been refraining from making a mere mention of it on AzBilliards Discussion Forum, to avoid controversy, lengthy back-and-forth debates, et cetera.
Even if I was a mere unaffected bystander, watching the IPT unfold, I would still maintain a strong sense of enthusiasm because, in my most humble opinion, it is the BEST thing that has ever happened for pool, especially in these United States. I am currently reading the book, when time allows. I am no stranger to alternative medicines, some of which are described in detail, but it may be because of my interest in the Native American culture.
BTW, in case it has not been mentioned previously, Kevin Trudeau stopped by a vendor table at the KOTH in Orlando. Keith and I were standing there watching the vendor display the pool tool, which appeared to me to be an aim-strengthening device.
I can't remember if it was Keith or myself, but one of us yelled out, "Kevin Trudeau, why don't you give it a shot." Without hesitation, Kevin Trudeau borrowed a cue from a friendly onlooker and immediately bent down to give this pool tool a try. He had good form and actually has a little stroke in him.
Everybody was having a good time, chuckling and chattering away, and even though Kevin Trudeau missed the mark after a few attempts, it was all in fun. Keith then tried his hand at hitting it dead on, and much to his dismay, he didn't make the mark on his first attempt, but did get it after four or five tries.
JAM
As someone who is not involved with any player on the IPT, I can honestly say I agree with your sentiment that this tour is exciting and beneficial to the sport in general.
I have never met KT and did not attend the IPT. Even then, I have been quite interested to see how the tour was presented on the site, and it impresses me the efforts which they seem to have put into all the small details to make it into the best pool event ever.
About the book, I am interested to read it. I do not like the idea of dismissing something before knowing the first thing about it. My point is even if it was a scam, why not support it if the money I put in may go toward supporting the IPT and thus pool?
I would like to wish you and Keith a merry Christmas.
Richard
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Let me first say that I have never read Kevin Trudeau's book. I see that he sells it for $14.95. Trudeau might be doing something great for pool and stepping out with big paydays that no one else has but his natural cures idea is nothing new. Please don't have anyone act like it is. If someone is really interested in learning about natural cures and healing I would strongly suggest you buy The Prescription for Natural Healing. You can buy it on amazon.com for $16.76 and I can tell you it is worth the extra $2.00 on what Trudeau might be selling.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1/103-5025300-4822227?v=glance&s=hpc&n=507846
This book is written by a doctor and his wife, who is a certified nutritionist. It is easy to read and follow. You can look up by natural product to see what the properties are or you can look up by disease. The book is good because it just doesn't tell you to take, say fish oils, but it tells you the reason why you should take it & what it is going to do for your body. It gives specific amounts you should take a day. If you look up high blood pressure, it tells you what is the highest importance to take down to the lowest. The book is clear, concise and easy to read. Even a pool player could understand it. Just kidding.
Where do I get my background for knowing this information? I owned a GNC store for over 7 years. I saw almost every book published because they were either sent to me or brought in by customers. I have had customers come back to me & tell me what worked & what didn't. I have read magazines, articles, etc. and this book is BY FAR the best. 776 pages of great information.
On the subject of doctors, let me just say that most people don't know that a doctor is just like a retail store. He gives you free samples of a drug to get you hooked on it so you will then have to buy it. Doctors get kickbacks. Most won't admit it & many here will argue with me about it. That is why, if you have a regular doctor, he could careless if he actually sees you. He will just prescribe you something over the phone. If he does that 20 times a day, he is making great money. Doctors are against natural cures simply because they don't make any money on it. About 10 years ago the AMA & it's lobbyists went before Congress to try to pass a bill that would make it so you would have to get a doctor's prescription for natural healers, vitamins, herbs and the like. Congress rejected it. Why did the doctors care? Because they wanted their share of the billion dollar industry. Most prescriptions just 'mask' a problem you are having, a natural supplement will actually help 'fix' the problem. Don't be afraid of quote "side effects" of natural supplements. Ask you pharmacists to print you out a list of the side effects of the drug you are currently taking. You might be shocked.
Lastly, remember you get what you pay for. Keep in mind that the FDA daily requirements were established in 1942 on a test that they did on a 7 year old boy. They have not been updated in over 60 years. Just think of how medicine was viewed when your grandparents were alive. Women smoked & drank when pregnant, etc etc. For something to say that it gives you 100% of the USDA is a joke and pure marketing. Make sure you buy a natural supplement from a reputable company & make sure the pill is free from any fillers or additives. Those make the pill impossible to break down in your body, you don't get the full dose of what you are expecting, and it could actually do you more harm than good as your body tries to break it down.
Okay, any questions? Doctor Watchez is in.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1/103-5025300-4822227?v=glance&s=hpc&n=507846
This book is written by a doctor and his wife, who is a certified nutritionist. It is easy to read and follow. You can look up by natural product to see what the properties are or you can look up by disease. The book is good because it just doesn't tell you to take, say fish oils, but it tells you the reason why you should take it & what it is going to do for your body. It gives specific amounts you should take a day. If you look up high blood pressure, it tells you what is the highest importance to take down to the lowest. The book is clear, concise and easy to read. Even a pool player could understand it. Just kidding.
Where do I get my background for knowing this information? I owned a GNC store for over 7 years. I saw almost every book published because they were either sent to me or brought in by customers. I have had customers come back to me & tell me what worked & what didn't. I have read magazines, articles, etc. and this book is BY FAR the best. 776 pages of great information.
On the subject of doctors, let me just say that most people don't know that a doctor is just like a retail store. He gives you free samples of a drug to get you hooked on it so you will then have to buy it. Doctors get kickbacks. Most won't admit it & many here will argue with me about it. That is why, if you have a regular doctor, he could careless if he actually sees you. He will just prescribe you something over the phone. If he does that 20 times a day, he is making great money. Doctors are against natural cures simply because they don't make any money on it. About 10 years ago the AMA & it's lobbyists went before Congress to try to pass a bill that would make it so you would have to get a doctor's prescription for natural healers, vitamins, herbs and the like. Congress rejected it. Why did the doctors care? Because they wanted their share of the billion dollar industry. Most prescriptions just 'mask' a problem you are having, a natural supplement will actually help 'fix' the problem. Don't be afraid of quote "side effects" of natural supplements. Ask you pharmacists to print you out a list of the side effects of the drug you are currently taking. You might be shocked.
Lastly, remember you get what you pay for. Keep in mind that the FDA daily requirements were established in 1942 on a test that they did on a 7 year old boy. They have not been updated in over 60 years. Just think of how medicine was viewed when your grandparents were alive. Women smoked & drank when pregnant, etc etc. For something to say that it gives you 100% of the USDA is a joke and pure marketing. Make sure you buy a natural supplement from a reputable company & make sure the pill is free from any fillers or additives. Those make the pill impossible to break down in your body, you don't get the full dose of what you are expecting, and it could actually do you more harm than good as your body tries to break it down.
Okay, any questions? Doctor Watchez is in.
PoolSleuth
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Mick56 said:
Your statement is 100% correct about "Western Diseases"....
