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Anyone buy the book yet? Did you get you dollars worth, or is it just Mobo Jumbo?
Kevin Trudeau's Book "Natural Cures"
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I'm glad Kevin is spending the money he is scamming off people on the IPT but man, who could really believe anything this guy is saying. He is a conartist taking advantage of people's desperation and ignorance to put a fat wad of money in his pocket. Why didn't I think of that 
? Just kidding. I hate to say it but although it is wrong how he got his money at least he's spending some of it on our great sport that was in need of it. I know somebody that bought the book (when it first came out a long time ago before everyone realized it was a joke) hoping it would have a list of "grandma's recipes" for certain things and was hugely disappointed as most probably are. He tried to send the book back and get his money back but ended up just wasting 4 hours of his life. The first time he called they had him on hold switching back and forth from one representative to the next until someone finally told him that he needed to call back on a certain day at a certain time. As frustrated as he was he did call back and got the same run around eventually trying to tell him to call back again which he of course objected to. They then told him that he could send the book back with a restocking fee and handling fee or something along those lines and would have to also pay for the shipping. He was afraid he would never get his money back so he wasn't about to waste more money on these people and ended up just throwing the book away. Everyone that is interested check out this interview with Kevin. I can't believe anyone would take this guy serious.
http://www.naturalcures.com/kevin+in+the+media.aspx
Just click on the "CNN MEDIA CLIP".
? Just kidding. I hate to say it but although it is wrong how he got his money at least he's spending some of it on our great sport that was in need of it. I know somebody that bought the book (when it first came out a long time ago before everyone realized it was a joke) hoping it would have a list of "grandma's recipes" for certain things and was hugely disappointed as most probably are. He tried to send the book back and get his money back but ended up just wasting 4 hours of his life. The first time he called they had him on hold switching back and forth from one representative to the next until someone finally told him that he needed to call back on a certain day at a certain time. As frustrated as he was he did call back and got the same run around eventually trying to tell him to call back again which he of course objected to. They then told him that he could send the book back with a restocking fee and handling fee or something along those lines and would have to also pay for the shipping. He was afraid he would never get his money back so he wasn't about to waste more money on these people and ended up just throwing the book away. Everyone that is interested check out this interview with Kevin. I can't believe anyone would take this guy serious.http://www.naturalcures.com/kevin+in+the+media.aspx
Just click on the "CNN MEDIA CLIP".
PoolSleuth
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"There's a sucker born every minute." -PT Barnham
I heard that L. Ron Hubbard has got nothing on this guy. Just kidding, didn't read it. But I'm not about to either.
Can't their be a more powerful and well-known celebrity who wants to push the sport forward? Nothing against KT. He is well intentioned and we all have the same goals for the sport in mind. But did anyone else really hear of Kevin before the IPT? Not I.
Can't their be a more powerful and well-known celebrity who wants to push the sport forward? Nothing against KT. He is well intentioned and we all have the same goals for the sport in mind. But did anyone else really hear of Kevin before the IPT? Not I.
Yeah, I know I can click the "X" in the upper right-hand corner and afford myself the opportunity to choose what to read on AzBilliards, but as most are wont to do from time to time -- expressing their beloved opinions -- I am developing a disdain for these KT and IPT threads designed for the sole benefit of bashing or deameaning the two entities respectively.
There is one school of thought that because of my affiliation with a current IPT member that I am only providing positive opinions about the IPT and Kevin Trudeau for personal reasons; thus, I have been refraining from making a mere mention of it on AzBilliards Discussion Forum, to avoid controversy, lengthy back-and-forth debates, et cetera.
Even if I was a mere unaffected bystander, watching the IPT unfold, I would still maintain a strong sense of enthusiasm because, in my most humble opinion, it is the BEST thing that has ever happened for pool, especially in these United States. I am currently reading the book, when time allows. I am no stranger to alternative medicines, some of which are described in detail, but it may be because of my interest in the Native American culture.
BTW, in case it has not been mentioned previously, Kevin Trudeau stopped by a vendor table at the KOTH in Orlando. Keith and I were standing there watching the vendor display the pool tool, which appeared to me to be an aim-strengthening device.
I can't remember if it was Keith or myself, but one of us yelled out, "Kevin Trudeau, why don't you give it a shot." Without hesitation, Kevin Trudeau borrowed a cue from a friendly onlooker and immediately bent down to give this pool tool a try. He had good form and actually has a little stroke in him.
Everybody was having a good time, chuckling and chattering away, and even though Kevin Trudeau missed the mark after a few attempts, it was all in fun. Keith then tried his hand at hitting it dead on, and much to his dismay, he didn't make the mark on his first attempt, but did get it after four or five tries.
JAM
There is one school of thought that because of my affiliation with a current IPT member that I am only providing positive opinions about the IPT and Kevin Trudeau for personal reasons; thus, I have been refraining from making a mere mention of it on AzBilliards Discussion Forum, to avoid controversy, lengthy back-and-forth debates, et cetera.
Even if I was a mere unaffected bystander, watching the IPT unfold, I would still maintain a strong sense of enthusiasm because, in my most humble opinion, it is the BEST thing that has ever happened for pool, especially in these United States. I am currently reading the book, when time allows. I am no stranger to alternative medicines, some of which are described in detail, but it may be because of my interest in the Native American culture.
BTW, in case it has not been mentioned previously, Kevin Trudeau stopped by a vendor table at the KOTH in Orlando. Keith and I were standing there watching the vendor display the pool tool, which appeared to me to be an aim-strengthening device.
I can't remember if it was Keith or myself, but one of us yelled out, "Kevin Trudeau, why don't you give it a shot." Without hesitation, Kevin Trudeau borrowed a cue from a friendly onlooker and immediately bent down to give this pool tool a try. He had good form and actually has a little stroke in him.
Everybody was having a good time, chuckling and chattering away, and even though Kevin Trudeau missed the mark after a few attempts, it was all in fun. Keith then tried his hand at hitting it dead on, and much to his dismay, he didn't make the mark on his first attempt, but did get it after four or five tries.
JAM
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Western medicine is just discovering what has been around for centuries. China has had 5000 years to refine the use of plants and animal parts, and slowly our doctors are admitting that some ancient medicine is effective. They recently decided acupuncture is a useful technique. If we were not so quick to call them primitive and stupid, we would have benefited from these 'cures' for decades. Do you think Asians are superstitious, gullible or primitive in believing in the potency of roots, herbs, and flowers?
We westerners are arrogant in our thinking that modern medicine is the only solution. Scurvy can be eradicated by eating oranges. The sun produces Vitamin D in our bodies.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/051226/26body.vitamind.htm
"Even in an age of fortified milk and cereal, some doctors worry that we're short on vitamin D--to our detriment.
Historically, most people have gotten their quota from the sun, which stimulates the cells in the skin to produce it. But now that we're either slathered in sunscreen or parked in front of the computer, vitamin D deficiency appears to be fairly common. One study in Boston found that of 307 adolescents tested, 75 were vitamin D deficient. African-American kids were more likely to be low, since the pigment in dark skin acts as a sunblock.
The National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine currently recommends that adults get 200 international units, or IU s, a day of vitamin D, which the body needs to absorb calcium. But some scientists argue for even more, since studies now suggest that extra might help prevent fractures in elderly people (osteoporosis) and that a shortage could even play a role in cancer, type 1 diabetes, and multiple sclerosis."
All diseases and the cures for them are inherent in our environment or body. We need to release some of our arrogance of natural cures. God and Mother Nature put most everything we need at our disposal to be well. Whether we choose to use those tools or not is the question. Being aware is the first step and I believe KT's book raises that awareness.
We westerners are arrogant in our thinking that modern medicine is the only solution. Scurvy can be eradicated by eating oranges. The sun produces Vitamin D in our bodies.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/051226/26body.vitamind.htm
"Even in an age of fortified milk and cereal, some doctors worry that we're short on vitamin D--to our detriment.
Historically, most people have gotten their quota from the sun, which stimulates the cells in the skin to produce it. But now that we're either slathered in sunscreen or parked in front of the computer, vitamin D deficiency appears to be fairly common. One study in Boston found that of 307 adolescents tested, 75 were vitamin D deficient. African-American kids were more likely to be low, since the pigment in dark skin acts as a sunblock.
The National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine currently recommends that adults get 200 international units, or IU s, a day of vitamin D, which the body needs to absorb calcium. But some scientists argue for even more, since studies now suggest that extra might help prevent fractures in elderly people (osteoporosis) and that a shortage could even play a role in cancer, type 1 diabetes, and multiple sclerosis."
All diseases and the cures for them are inherent in our environment or body. We need to release some of our arrogance of natural cures. God and Mother Nature put most everything we need at our disposal to be well. Whether we choose to use those tools or not is the question. Being aware is the first step and I believe KT's book raises that awareness.
rackmsuckr said:
Actually everything you say is true, if we were to follow the natural course that nature intended people would die anywhere from 25 to 40 years of age and many of the problems we have in the world with over population the depletion of resources and so would be solved. Good plan. You know a A funny thing about many diseases is they weren't prevalent way back when because no one lived long enough to get them.
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rackmsuckr said:
Good post Linda. I will add that our pharmaceutical industry has not been around very long, maybe 100 years or so. Humanity survived from 'the beginning' until then without pills etc. Saskatchewan has a very significant Cree population and they have had natural cures and treatments for ailments and injuries for thousands of years, stuff that grows around here (hard as it may be to believe). Of course many of our modern medicines have plant material at their roots (that's a bad pun, sorry), so the industry is not ignorant of this knowledge no matter how one may judge them.
There are many books published on alternative medicines (alternative to the chemical factory type medicines that is). I would guess that most are written by 'authorities' on the subject. Having read some of the articles linked here in AZ, I do not get the impression that Kevin Trudeau is trained in any form of medicine, and am wondering how he got the information in his book (he is listed as the sole author, correct ?) ?
I do get the impression that Kevin is a top quality sales person bordering on being evangelistic, something that I can respect as a former commissioned salesman myself. The fact that he sponsors the IPT is not an issue with me, it's good to see someone trying to elevate the professional levels.
Dave
macguy said:
Yes, if the natural course is gluttony and not paying attention to our bodies. That's human nature and the good plan many follow. Also, overpopulation is occurring because people are not dying when they should, but kept alive by modern technology in a state that has no quality of life.
I am not saying modern medicine has not achieved progress, I am just saying there is more than 1 way to skin a cat...or fight disease.
DaveK said:
He puts a disclaimer in the book that emphatically states that he is not a scientist, dr. or researcher, and he also states that he has taken many different sources to back up each claim. He cites and references his sources. I think he has compiled the research from several sources for his cures. For example, he gives 9 sources for proof that the pharmaceutical industry is purposely selling ineffective medicines and suppressing natural cures... 3 of whom are doctors.
PoolSleuth
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rackmsuckr said:
I have know for years that pharmaceutical industry is purposely suppressing natural cures.
Reason is because they can not make any money selling natural cures.
rackmsuckr said:
Not exactly, people are living longer and more active lives then ever before in good health well into their later years due to today's modern technology. People don't die today of a simple infection or food poisoning, we in this country have about the safest food supply that has ever existed. Heck people died not that many years ago from just drinking raw milk. I guess you would like it the way it was before when women had 6 and 8 children and were lucky if 2 made it to adulthood. Yep, you have a great plan.
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macguy said:
I repeat - I am not saying modern medicine has not achieved progress, I am just saying there is more than 1 way to skin a cat...or fight disease. Don't be ludicrous.
rackmsuckr said:
Thanks Linda. I think it says a lot that the one example you provide is his 'proof' of a conspiracy theory rather than a natural cure. I was more interested in how he knows about the cures, and apparently he did do some research in order to come up with citations. Thanks again for answering my question.
Go IPT !
Dave
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rackmsuckr said:
Well here is something to think about: When was the last time medical science came up with a cure for a disease.
I think it was Jonas Salk finding the Vaccine that eliminated Polio, and it was about 1953ish...
Tell me if I am wrong....
DaveK said:
Well, I just stuck my finger in the book and used that one as an example. I would DEFINITELY buy this book. The basis for all disease he states is toxicity and exposure to things that aren't healthy to our bodies - some are naturally occurring, but we are getting in too high of doses.
Here is a better example for you - KT's cure for high cholesterol. I am choosing this one because I will have to do the least explanation for it. LOL
Causes: Food, allergies, candida, lack of exercise, Vitamin E and calcium deficiencies.
Cure: Vitamin E, calcium, omega-3s, red wine
, mangosteen juice (referred to in a lot of his cures).I did not know what mangosteen juice was or know what it does, so I looked it up online. This is from one company that sells it:
http://www.911healthshop.com/xango-mangosteen.html
Sorry, this part is lengthy, but you can skip it if you want to.
Virtually unknown in the West, mangosteen has been used for thousands of years in Chinese, Ayurvedic, and folk medicine throughout Asia.
Despite the fact that mangosteen has only recently been discovered in the West, there have already been literally hundreds of research papers and third party studies conducted on mangosteen and xanthones throughout the world, corroborating what folklore medicine has known for centuries: Mangosteen Works!
Dawn breaks over the jungles of Southeast Asia and begins to burn away the nighttime mists. Although it is early, the street side produce markets in villages and towns throughout the land are already bustling with activity, for today is different. In these tropical climates, most fruits and vegetables are available any time of year, but today the open-air markets are humming with an almost electric anticipation. This only happens twice a year. Every six months. That's the harvest cycle for the fruit prized above all others. The Queen of Fruits! For countless generations, the people of Southeast Asia have valued the mangosteen above all other fruits. These are people intimately acquainted with the plants of the rain forest. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of edible fruits, nuts, stems, and roots. And yet only the mangosteen carries the label The Queen of Fruits.
Why does the mangosteen deserve such a title? Certainly a major reason is the role the mangosteen played in ancient Southeast Asian medicine. Traditionally utilized to control fever and ward off infections of every kind, the whole mangosteen fruit was used and revered.
But the people of early Southeast Asia weren't all that different from us. Yes, they recognized and valued the medicinal benefits of the mangosteen. But what really caught their fancy was the taste! Difficult to describe, yet impossible to forget.
Mangosteen: Queen of Fruits
Although almost unheard of in the temperate zones of North America and Europe, mangosteen is so prized by inhabitants of tropical rain forests that it is universally known as the Queen of Fruits and the Fruit of the Gods.
About the size of a tangerine, the ripe mangosteen has a smooth, dark purple rind encasing snow-white fruit. Unlike other tropical fruits that are so unusual and obscure that eating them requires an "acquired taste," mangosteen has a sweet, mild flavor that appeals to everyone, beginning with the first bite.
Limited to tropical zones with abundant rainfall, the mangosteen tree takes 10 years to mature and bear fruit. Fully mature trees can be up to 80 feet tall, and may produce thousands of individual fruits each year.
In Southeast Asia, where the mangosteen is predominantly grown, the people value this exceptional fruit for its premium taste and heavenly flavor. In fact, when Queen Victoria tasted this imported delicacy in the mid-1800s, she promptly declared it her favorite fruit.
Although readily available in season throughout Southeast Asia, until now the mangosteen fruit in its whole form has never been commercially available in North America.
Good For the Body - Heaven For the Tongue
Traditionally utilized to control pain, fever and to ward off infections of every kind, to protect against disease, increase energy, and as a natural anti-inflammatory, the whole mangosteen fruit has been used and revered for thousands of years.
But the people of early Southeast Asia weren't all that different from us. Yes, they recognized and valued the medicinal benefits of the mangosteen. But what really caught their fancy was the taste! Difficult to describe, yet impossible to forget.
David Karp, writer for Gourmet Magazine describes the flavor of the mangosteen best in a recent article in the July 2003 issue called "Meet the Mangosteens."
"I cut open a thick rind to reveal six snowy white, almost translucent segments that were like little eggs nestled in a jewel box. The flavor was almost unbearably exquisite - a sweet-tart melding of elegance and opulence that had echoes of fruit of every climate. Think of cherimoyas, lychees, and peaches mingled into one soft, moist, fragrant mouthful. I understood at last why many people consider mangosteen the finest fruit in the world-and why Queen Victoria is said to have offered a knighthood to anybody who could bring her one."
-David Karp, The Fruit Detective, Meet the Mangosteens, Gourmet Magazine, July 2003, pp. 88-89
A Family of Powerful Phytonutrients
While most people know about the antioxidant benefits of Vitamins C and E, far fewer are aware of the incredibly potent antioxidant power of xanthones. Xanthones are natural chemical substances that have recently won high praise from numerous scientists and researchers. Xanthones have been studied for their medicinal potential, since they demonstrate a number of pharmaceutical properties:
Supports microbiological balance
Maintains immune system health
Promotes joint flexibility
Provides positive mental support
What's remarkable is that the mangosteen - not just the inner flesh, but the whole fruit - represents the single greatest known supply of these tremendously beneficial xanthones. The pericarp, or rind, of the mangosteen is particularly rich in xanthones, which represent the next generation of powerful phytonutrients; phytonutrients that will change the future of dietary supplements.
One Medical Doctor actually uses a mangosteen food supplement in his full-time medical practice. He became so enthusiastic about his results with his patients that he recently published a book on the benefits of the mangosteen plant and its extremely wide range of health applications.
"Mangosteen extract has multiple health benefits. This simple fact is both its greatest asset and its greatest liability. Unfortunately, many people will never try it because of its claims of effects across the full spectrum health concerts. They say, 'No one product can do all that!' But my patients know better...The Mangosteen Works!"
-J. Frederic Templeman, MD,
Author of "Mangosteen, The X-Factor"
Mangosteen: More Powerful Than Dozens of Fruits Combined!
A new laboratory test known as ORAC (Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity) has shown that an ounce of mangosteen juice has 20-30 times the ability to absorb free radicals than one ounce of most fruits and vegetables.
The ORAC test is one of the most accurate ways to measure the ability of antioxidants in a certain substance to absorb free radicals.
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chefjeff said:Aren't you the one who thinks over population is a problem? Well, what you said, above, would help solve it, wouldn't it?
You could always do your part to lessen the population, if you think it is so bad.
Jeff Livingston
Thanks for the input Adolph.