Layered Tips Question

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ekb6760

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I had a customer ask me to apply a layer of CA to the side of a layered tip that I am going to install for him to minimize the chance of delamination. I've always only burnished the sides, being careful to not generate excess heat. I've used CA to seal porous ferrules before, but not tips. Does anyone here do this with tips? Thanks in advance for your input.
 
Sorry to get u excited about a response to your question but im just wondering what CA is?
 
There's a lot of guys who like to prime the back of a tip to help adhesion.
I don't think it will help to stop delamination though
 
bearsafety said:
Sorry to get u excited about a response to your question but im just wondering what CA is?
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cyanoacrylate

Super glue as was said.


I tried it once a number of years ago...but not on a laminated tip. It was a bit of a lark. Just wanted to see what it might do. I didn't particularly like the effect. I felt like it miscued more...but it may have just been me. I went back to just burnishing. I ended up creating my own burnishing mix.


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EightballJunkie said:
It would probably look nice and shiny at first, but after a few hits I think the micro-fractures in the CA would cause the sides of the tip to look dull and maybe difficult to burnish again. I don't think it would do anything to minimize delamination.

On a case queen, maybe it would be good way to preserve an unplayed tip for the long haul ...i don't know.
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As I remember it did break down and kind of haze over with use...as you say, micro-fractures I guess.
 
I occasionally burnish the sides of tips with cyno. I generally only do it on non-laminated tips. I don't see it helping with delamination, and for what it's worth, Kamui advises against doing it with their tips as they say 'flex' is an important part of the tip's performance.
 
I could be wrong but it sounded to me like; in the original post the customer was asking for the cyno be applied to the side of the tip before installation to aid in trimming the tip by eliminating some of the possibility of delamination during triming . If it was an oversize tip then the cyno would probably be trimmed off during the installation process. Or maybe not.
 
tsp&b said:
I could be wrong but it sounded to me like; in the original post the customer was asking for the cyno be applied to the side of the tip before installation to aid in trimming the tip by eliminating some of the possibility of delamination during triming . If it was an oversize tip then the cyno would probably be trimmed off during the installation process. Or maybe not.
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To clarify, the customer wanted the CA left on / applied after the tip was installed. I've advised him of the responses to this thread, as well as advice given via PM's; and he's changed his mind.

Maybe I'll offer to spit shine the sides of the tip with Kiwi, kinda like I used to have to do my combat boots in basic training! :tongue: :groucho:
 
I've heard guys using superglue to burnish the sides of just a single
leather tip like Lepro or Triangles but not a layered tip.What I was told was it was for the purpose of the tip to stop mushrooming so quick.
 
scsuxci said:
I've heard guys using superglue to burnish the sides of just a single
leather tip like Lepro or Triangles but not a layered tip.What I was told was it was for the purpose of the tip to stop mushrooming so quick.
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That's why I tried it several years ago. I wasn't impressed. But I don't have a lathe either and perhaps better results can be achieved with a lathe.



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I guess I need to issue a warning. UltraSkinLayered will not be responsible for any Cue Ball Babys that could occur after burnish with Super Glue.

This is a Public service announcement.
 
here are my thought of applying the cyano on the sides of the layered tip:
by adding glue to the sides, it decreases the tip's ability to flex (initially), which will affect the shots involving english.

After enough usage, the cyano can and will eventually fracture on heavily stroked/impacted shots. When it does fracture, it will leave white discoloration that is indication of the air between the tip and cyano.

With all the change in the tips properties (Hard with glue, soft when glue cracks, hard again after usage), it will affect the tips consistency, thereby making the same shot different over time.

Then again...maybe i'm over thinking it...
DISCLAIMER: I am not a cue maker
 
TomHay said:
I guess I need to issue a warning. UltraSkinLayered will not be responsible for any Cue Ball Babys that could occur after burnish with Super Glue.

This is a Public service announcement.
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That's funny Tom:grin-square:
 
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