oscargrouch
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Why?
Layered Tips
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They sell really well with monstrous mark-ups along the way!
Hu
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shooter_Hans
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No mushroom and as one layer starts to wear another one forms. Well, that's what to expect but in reality it is just to prevent mushrooming. Therefore, if you shoot with soft tips then get layered tips. If you normally should with a hard tip then a layered tip doesn't do anything.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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Hydraulic ferrule ... Why?
No such thing. Something B. Meucci made up. Kinda like J.Jones calling force-follow off the rail a 'hydraulic'. Don't think either one has/had a clue.
oscargrouch
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But it doesn't really work like that, right? I mean there's always two or three layers exposed and sometimes there's that sharp gap between them. That's what doesn't make sense.
I guess if the anti-mushrooming is true, that's a decent reason.
Zerksies
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The reason i am using a layered tip is consistency.
I used LePro's for years. Good hitting tip when you found the right one. The downside is I would go through 3-4 tips to find the "right" one.
Now take the Kamui layered tips that i am using right now. I've probably gone through 8-10 tips on two shafts in the past few years ( i average about 3-4 months on a tip) and every single tip hits exactly the same. Not one variance in feel to them. Not a single one of them was a bad tip.
In pool consistency is a very good thing.
I used LePro's for years. Good hitting tip when you found the right one. The downside is I would go through 3-4 tips to find the "right" one.
Now take the Kamui layered tips that i am using right now. I've probably gone through 8-10 tips on two shafts in the past few years ( i average about 3-4 months on a tip) and every single tip hits exactly the same. Not one variance in feel to them. Not a single one of them was a bad tip.
In pool consistency is a very good thing.
Been using them since Moori's first hit and i've NEVER had one issue with glue lines/gaps. Never. Ultraskins are the best deal out there, 10 for 30bux and the play/last great. I still like a good Triangle but you might go thru five to get one decent one.
I wouldn’t put a 1 piece tip on my cue again if it was free. The layered tips are way better.
From an installation standpoint, I wouldn’t install a one piece tip if a customer paid me double. Just a complete waste of time going through a bunch of bad ones to find the “magic good ones”.
From an installation standpoint, I wouldn’t install a one piece tip if a customer paid me double. Just a complete waste of time going through a bunch of bad ones to find the “magic good ones”.
Does a bit of mushrooming make a difference?
What they said (especially the Ultraskins part).pj
chgo
Most people dislike it.
As an installer I have had a handful of bad layered tips the customer never heard about. If one layer is bad the tip is bad.
The nice thing about single layer tips is that I can buy all of the test equipment I need for them for under fifty dollars, was under thirty when I bought mine but I haven't looked at prices lately.
Anyway, I measure the diameter of the first tip I grab in a box. Lock the calipers there and use them as a gauge for the other tips, a few seconds a tip. Measure the height of one tip, lock the calipers again, gauge the height of the rest of the tips. These two measurements have never uncovered an issue, just prep for weighing the tips. Out of an under forty cents each, box of single layer tips I did turn up nine super light tips, call it three dollars and sixty cents gone to hell when I tossed them. Four very heavy tips, curious so these were put to the side too, for personal install and testing. Another $1.60 gone.
I consider that a very high loss rate. Even so I have 37 tested good tips. Every customer was happy and I have a lifetime supply of tips left over after a hurricane got my shop.
Hu
The nice thing about single layer tips is that I can buy all of the test equipment I need for them for under fifty dollars, was under thirty when I bought mine but I haven't looked at prices lately.
Anyway, I measure the diameter of the first tip I grab in a box. Lock the calipers there and use them as a gauge for the other tips, a few seconds a tip. Measure the height of one tip, lock the calipers again, gauge the height of the rest of the tips. These two measurements have never uncovered an issue, just prep for weighing the tips. Out of an under forty cents each, box of single layer tips I did turn up nine super light tips, call it three dollars and sixty cents gone to hell when I tossed them. Four very heavy tips, curious so these were put to the side too, for personal install and testing. Another $1.60 gone.
I consider that a very high loss rate. Even so I have 37 tested good tips. Every customer was happy and I have a lifetime supply of tips left over after a hurricane got my shop.
Hu
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I developed a very simple and very effective method for single layer tips. I tap them on a hard surface and can tell if they're any good, and how hard they will be by the sound.
Also, inspect the grain of the leather at the base of the tip. The ones without any cracking or creases are generally better.
Also, inspect the grain of the leather at the base of the tip. The ones without any cracking or creases are generally better.