I like it, good point SJD. But please do keep in mind that while you're living in the past the world today has moved on and generally improved.
Learn with an aiming system or not
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I like it, good point SJD. But please do keep in mind that while you're living in the past the world today has moved on and generally improved.
There is a ton of truth to this , For the sake of argument I use the shaft method on difficult cut shots I try to make sure I step into the shot line with the but of the cue over my arch if I'm not aligned I step back out and back in till I'm comfortable when I am I concentrate on my eye pattern and pick my speed then shoot
My game went all to hell over the weekend couldn't get the feel and shot like hell
Tonight I started of the same way I said to myself F,,,k it went back to my see aim onestroke fire and everything just fell into place just like that ,,
My first thought was I'd become to mechanical and it was costing me feel and rythem and it was taking from my game , I don't need a method of aiming when I'm in gear it just all falls into place ,, in fact a good A player told me the other night when trying to match up
He said Mark your not consistent all the time but you got a big gear and when you hit that gear your dangerous so I'm not giving you the farm
It dawned on me I really need to go back to play by feel there's no magic wand that will make you better , the key to good play is play a lot think less and let the subconscious take over and the results can be amazing
Cloud the mind with details and you'll never see your best performance
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Granted, the world will move on!..But there is no way possible to improve on, and overcome something as difficult and elusive as "hand/eye coordination"..You are either blessed with it, or you are not!..Time has nothing to do with it, and there is no way that will ever change!
PS..Can't you see, you are living proof that it cannot be bought, or taught?
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Anybody that has ever played the game at a high level has had a system, but that doesn't mean they were smart enough to know it.
Granted, the world will move on!..But there is no way possible to improve on something as difficult and elusive as "hand/eye coordination"..You are either blessed with it, or you are not!..Time has nothing to do with it, and there is no way that will ever change!
PS..Can't you see, you are living proof that it cannot be bought, or taught?
Well you are at odds with all the scientists that have proved that eye-hand coordination can in fact be learned, practiced and honed to a high degree.
You're like an example of the old joke where the head of the patent office in 1985 says everything that can be invented has been invented. (it was a satirical joke made back then).
Hand/eye coordination in pool is overrated.
Nothing is moving on a pool table except your cue, when it is in motion.
It isn't like baseball, where the ball is coming at you at 100 MPH and you are swinging the bat at 50 MPH in the other direction, all while trying to keep your eye on the ball.
If you can stand up and look at the wall and turn on a light switch, you have all the hand/eye coordination you need to play pool.
Pool can be played at a high level by almost anyone, if they are taught properly and they aren't complete dumb asses. 90% of players will always think they are smarter than the person trying to teach them, so they revert back to their old ways.
Pool requires a lot of dedication to learning the proper fundamentals and most people want to "progress" faster than they should. It is more fun to bang the balls around than it is to learn something properly, in the right order.
You could read this. http://www.golfwrx.com/197583/the-truth-about-aim-and-alignment/
Or just go out and "hit a million balls" which would cost you literally a million dollars.
Or just go out and "hit a million balls" which would cost you literally a million dollars.
I don't want to sleep with you Shawn.
This is probably the closest you've come, to making 'no sense' whatsoever!.. If you are half the pool player you claim to be, I am shocked at your assessment of the game!
....Yes, pool requires a different set of skills, than other sports, but it is just as demanding (if not moreso) to attain a top level of proficiency! ..Your last paragraph, (**) is the only one that makes any sense at all, however it basically contradicts all your earlier comments!
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This is probably the closest you've come, to making 'no sense' at all!.. If you are half the pool player you claim to be, I am shocked at your assessment of the game!..Yes, pool requires a different set of skills, than other sports, but it is just as demanding (if not moreso) to attain a top level of proficiency! ..Your last paragraph, is the only one that makes any sense at all, however it basically contradicts all your earlier comments!
Maybe I'm a "natural". To me, pool was easy to learn and from working in the pool hall, as a kid, I had all the free table time I wanted, which was 40 or more hours per week.
I've taught a kid who was less than 10 years old to be able to hang with "average" adult players.
I didn't say everybody could be a world champion, but I will guarantee I can take the average dude off the street and have them beat half the APA people I see over here within 6 months.
That is assuming the person is willing to put in the time and effort.
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This comment about your investigation and inspection of aiming systems and their validity is not in question!Well Bill that's not very nice. What makes you think I can't feel the shots? Have we ever played each other? I can play a little bit....maybe half a lick.
What makes you think that someone who uses an aiming system can't feel the shots?
But why make it personal and only about me? I showed you a bunch of videos of aiming system users who can clearly play pretty sporty. What about them?
I want to remind you of something you said to me at a show long ago that has had a lasting impression on me.
You once asked me why I thought you charged $300 for a shaft. I said I don't know. You said it's because you only keep about 25% of the shaftwood you buy and you already buy premium wood before it gets to you. You told me that you go through and match up the shaft dowels so that when you deliver two shafts with a cue they would be as matched as possible so both of them would have the same hit.
You said you charge $300 so that you never have to tell a customer why something isn't right. That's a very high standard and one I try to live up to in our case making. I am close to it in some ways and far away in others.
But the philosophy behind it is what I have always admired. Never settle for less than the best when the best is within reach. Never not do your best when doing your best is possible. That's what I took out of it. If I was wrong and read more into than you meant then please correct me.
But to me it also means don't stand behind anything you can't defend with 100% conviction that is supported by 100% inspection.
I know you don't think much of my game and with 9 hours of "evidence" I don't blame you. But when it comes to these aiming systems I have inspected them in dozens of ways. I know full well that they work and work extremely well. I remain however a cheerleader more than a good example because I built 20 years of horrible habits before anyone ever showed me an aiming system. I did FEEL the shots, all I did was feel when I played, I felt awesome when I would hit the zone and get in stroke and I felt horrible when I wasn't. All that to say that yes, I am an average player and remain so even with the knowledge of aiming systems.
But my personal rank in the world of pool players doesn't change the fact that the aiming systems work and work really really well. Stop looking at me and look at Stan Shuffett, look at his son Landon, look at Stevie and Phil and Gerry Williams and Duke Laha and Matt Krah and many others who clearly can play and at least give them credit for having enough pool sense to understand the difference between nonsense methods and something that really works to advance their game.
I agree cte and ghost ball and other aiming systems can help.
You are a boxer with no foot work and poor body mechanics. Pre shoot routine is non-existent. Please name one player that uses your same stance? One player that uses the same distance from the stick to the chin as you ? Your back leg is poorly positioned and too much weight on front leg. You pop up on shots and fail to stay down and trust it's going in. You want to see it go in and are the proverbial "jack in the box" of the pool world.
I am not saying this to make you feel bad. I hope that you can get help! You love pool and you need help from max eberle or lee Brett depending on if you plan to adopt a snooker stance or pool stance. Will make the choice for you on which one to contact.
Best of rolls.
Kd
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Mr. Eye, Its a good thing you were a 'natural' at pool..Because you are certainly not a 'natural' at expressing yourself coherently!..Once again you closed with a very awkward summation, of the actual content of your post! :sorry:
PS..(*) All that takes is the right 10 year old.
..(**) Also, It should be easy to train any dude to beat APA league players, who just want to get out for a beer once a week! 
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Mr. Eye, Its a good thing you were a 'natural' at pool..Because you are certainly not a 'natural' at expressing yourself coherently!..Once again you closed with a very awkward summation, of the actual content of your post! :sorry:
PS..(*) All that takes is the right 10 year old.
Quit being cantankerous.
You are trying to make pool out to be more difficult than it really is.
Not everyone wants to be the world champion and even less want to gamble now days. There is no money in pool and no reason to learn to be Willie Mosconi Jr., unless it is for personal satisfaction.
If you go into any pool hall in the world, only a small percentage of the players can actually play a decent game. There are even fewer who are committed enough to become a really good player.
Pool will never be what it once was...at least, not in the USA.
Even in the old days, 95% of the people who played pool couldn't beat a B-level player.
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KD, Always try to show a picture of Barton in action, for maximum effect..Here, you can borrow these!
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KD, Always try to show a picture of Barton in action, for maximum effect..Here, you can borrow these!
...(note body alignment :embarrassed2
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Is your only enjoyment coming onto forums and trying to belittle things and people?
Do you ever provide anything useful to help anyone?
I have yet to see any contributions by you in any forum trying to explain a method or something that would help someone. You only criticize others who do.
I believe you.
If you can teach the right fundamentals ( cueing and body alignment )and make it second nature to that person, he'd be decent in 6 months.