If you could take lessons from any Pro out there (Money not being an object) who would you choose?
Me it would have to be Efren
Me it would have to be Efren
Lessons from A Pro
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For stroke mechanics - Tie between Mark Wilson and Jerry Briesath.
For one-pocket and 14.1 strategy - Tie between Grady Mathews and Danny DiLiberto.
For 9-ball and 8-ball strategy and advanced pool theory = George Breedlove.
P.S. - Money IS no object when it comes to pool (there's always the kid's college money).
For one-pocket and 14.1 strategy - Tie between Grady Mathews and Danny DiLiberto.
For 9-ball and 8-ball strategy and advanced pool theory = George Breedlove.
P.S. - Money IS no object when it comes to pool (there's always the kid's college money).
> From a pure 9-ball strategy standpoint,Buddy Hall would look very good to me,considering if you listen to his commentary on Accu-Stats,he conveys his concepts better than most. For 14.1,tournament mindset,and overall "presence" at the table,Sigel would be hard to beat. In the break department,Danny Harriman,Frankie Hernandez,or Jon Kucharo,who I believe had the biggest,most consistent break on the scene in late 2000. His break was simply amazing power-wise,and VERY controlled with both cue ball position and the power level from break to break,it never dropped off or got sloppy when it came to the hit on the one ball. For one pocket,and game-making,Grady or Scott Frost. Bar table play would be covered by Dave Matlock. The only reason I exclude the Filipino greats here has nothing to do with their pool knowledge,to me it would be more productive to learn and retain coming from the teacher as opposed to an interpreter,nothing against them. Tommy D.
Grant it Mosconi would still be alive.......Mosconi be my #1 pick
Then McCready!!
Then Sigel.....
Then McCready!!
Then Sigel.....
OldHasBeen
Tom Ferry
Playing great and Teaching well are two different things.
There is an art and science to teaching pool and sometimes it has little to do with how well you play. The best teachers can pick your game & mind apart and point you in the right direction. Some of the best players can't and won't help anyone with their games because it gets into their heads and starts them thinking about that while playing. I'm that way myself. I won't teach, but I'll play cheap with a novice if there is nothing else going on.
IMHO - Mark Wilson and Jerry Briesath are two of the best teachers who have a proven record and many successful students.
TY & GL
There is an art and science to teaching pool and sometimes it has little to do with how well you play. The best teachers can pick your game & mind apart and point you in the right direction. Some of the best players can't and won't help anyone with their games because it gets into their heads and starts them thinking about that while playing. I'm that way myself. I won't teach, but I'll play cheap with a novice if there is nothing else going on.
IMHO - Mark Wilson and Jerry Briesath are two of the best teachers who have a proven record and many successful students.
TY & GL
If money was no object I would love to have lessons from "The Hitman" Thorsten Hohmann because his game is very similar to my own so I am sure I would definately learn something from him.
sjm said:
I think he meant pro player, not pro instructor. If pro instructors are in this category, I heard great things about Mark Wilson and Randy G. Scott Lee is also a great instructor. Mark Wilson sometimes does commentary on accustats, and he knows what to do on every shot.
If I had to choose a pro player, for mechanics and fundamentals I would want to learn from Marlon Manalo. For the mental part of the game along with knowledge about kicks, banks, patterns, and every tactical part of the game, without a doubt, Nick Varner.
Pump stroke?
What's a pump stroke? To me his mechanics always looked conventional.
-Andrew
LastTwo said:
What's a pump stroke? To me his mechanics always looked conventional.
-Andrew
I had the opportunity to play with Mark Wilson and watch him play several times. He is a very good player and from commentary I've heard, I believe he is also a great teacher. He is not afraid to help someone and is very good at expressing his point. I've also had the opportunity to speak with Jerry Briesath in Vegas for an hour or so about various players and although I've never had lessons from him, I still believe he is the best as far as an instructor goes. I spoke with George Breedlove about him a couple of years ago, and he has a very high opinion Jerry. I would love to have several days of nothing but continuos play with George in any game he wants to play. I have always enjoyed watching him play. He is one of the few people I don't believe I've ever seen miss a ball because of in-decision. Now, if money is no object, I have told several of the people I play, "If I hit the lottery, I'm going looking for Efren, He's got action every day for a solid month. I learn pretty well. I don't think I'll be beating him at the end of the month or anything, but I think it will get me in gear. If nothing else, it will be a dream come true. Sam
LastTwo said:
You may be correct as to the intent of the original question...but when it comes down to who I am going to learn the most from, I would rather spend 3 days with RandyG and Jerry Powers. Since I have already done that, I am considering my next trip to school might have to be with Tom Simpson. Always looking for a different perspective.
Steve
What a great post!
I sure do like OLDHASBEEN and his relationship between teaching and playing.
But, I'm no different than anyone else, I love this game. I have spent quite a bit of time studying with four (high ranked) professional players. Granted I'm around some of the pro's a little less time over the last few years I still watch my favorites as much as possible. Played in a tournament against a few of them this past Oct.
I had a very hard time learning from these nice players. God could they play, but extracting the "why's" from them was tough. Not their fault, they are players. Still they become the foundation for my game and some of my teaching traits. I wouldn't trade those times for nothing.
Right now I think I would like to spend some time with Wade Crane......SPF-randyg
I sure do like OLDHASBEEN and his relationship between teaching and playing.
But, I'm no different than anyone else, I love this game. I have spent quite a bit of time studying with four (high ranked) professional players. Granted I'm around some of the pro's a little less time over the last few years I still watch my favorites as much as possible. Played in a tournament against a few of them this past Oct.
I had a very hard time learning from these nice players. God could they play, but extracting the "why's" from them was tough. Not their fault, they are players. Still they become the foundation for my game and some of my teaching traits. I wouldn't trade those times for nothing.
Right now I think I would like to spend some time with Wade Crane......SPF-randyg
i think i'd learn the most from a german or a taiwanese.....maybe even a snooker player
efren is too wayyy beyond beyond.
the taiwanese are students of one particular teacher who is rather famous in that country. i think many foreign players, and especially the japanese/taiwanese/chinese(i assume) grow up under a system od instruction. unlike here in the states where everything is scattered and unstructured.
efren is too wayyy beyond beyond.
the taiwanese are students of one particular teacher who is rather famous in that country. i think many foreign players, and especially the japanese/taiwanese/chinese(i assume) grow up under a system od instruction. unlike here in the states where everything is scattered and unstructured.
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There are three players (Archer is one) that are coming to the island in January for a tournament. I was thinking about trying to get some paid instruction from Johnny or maybe gambling with him for the experience.
Anyone have any ideas regarding this?
Anyone have any ideas regarding this?