Live Stream - THE NEXT GENERATION

Joey, the speed needed is already available... we've had equipment for years that can send high quality video to hundreds of people at once. This new router isn't changing the game on that front.

The bottleneck has always been the first link in the streaming chain... the poolroom's computer and internet connection. The stream can start out crippled right from the outset... and once it starts out at low quality, it doesn't matter how quickly it can be pushed to the hundreds of viewers out there. The low quality stream is uploaded to a streaming server, which then copies it to the rest of the world. It becomes a case of garbage-in-garbage-out.

Reasons the stream isn't so hot right from the outset:

- The upload of the pool room's ISP is capped at a very low level. This is probably the most common problem. Typical ISP business practice is to make your upload speed about 1/6th of your download speed. If you don't like it... you can pay twice as much for some 'business plan' and get it up to 1/3rd of your download speed. Due to poor regulatory practices in the USA, there's less broadband competition and penetration than there ought to be, so the prices are big and the variety is small. There's a nice article on this here, if you're bored enough: http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news...most-of-usa-lacks-100mbps-net-connections.ars

- Weak camera can only capture at low resolution

- Video camera can capture at high resolution, but a low end computer has trouble compressing the video on the fly and sending it to the streaming server. Compressing video is pretty serious math for your processor to handle.

- Inexperienced broadcaster has bad settings

...and if all these other things are overcome, only then will the streaming service provider be able to get a nice video out to viewers IF they're willing to pony up 90k for these spanky routers.

Bottom line: We can read the numbers on the balls if the guy running the pool hall has 50-100 extra bucks a month he isn't using, and he has a good tech guy handling the equipment and purchasing decisions (including which streaming service to use). Once your connection is good enough to stream at good quality to just ONE guy... it's good enough to stream to hundreds of guys. But getting to that just-one-guy point is surprisingly pricey in our country.
 
what you don't understand is

The goverment has got MAJOR technology in reserve ever since the aliens crashed in roswell.We could have holographic streaming and teleportation within the next two years If they deemed that society as a whole could handle the upgrade. Now if you don't mind its 8 am and I really need to put my tinfoil hat back on and play some strait pool and run a few drills.
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Lenny. All i can say is your broadcast stats and beliefs about them are, um, delusional. I'm sorry you get mad if anyone criticizes your stream. I'm truly sorry about that.

And you know what when Weez was leading the chatroom in denegrating poor heather (the worst i've heard or seen on any stream anywhere!) i complained about it to him (i had to because the bunch of mods did nothing). His answer "I'm not getting paid for it so i'm going to do whatever.'' You know what Lenny that's the same excuse you use anytime someone says the slightest thing negative about your stream.

If you can't take responsibility like an adult maybe you shouldn't be doing the stream. Go ahead start calling me names, etc. I really don't mind.

ps. a moderator was participating in the denegration so your belief in them isn't well placed.
 
Hey Joey!

You're talkin' my domain now! This is the class of hardware I work on at, well, that thing that gets in the way of my pool playing -- "work."

Cool ! I get to play with 6500 VSS boxes, and 3800/2800/1800/800 rooooters ..... little dinky things compared to those CRS monsters.

I think that we need a solid end-to-end multicast system, but it will likely have to wait until IPv6 is ubiquitous, imo.

Dave
 
Actually, the fiber optic wire that we currently use can transfer 1000's of times more information than we currently do. The connections that send and receive the information are what needs upgraded, which isn't that hard to do and the cost is minimal.

There's a crap load more to infrastructure than the cabling. The connections are part of the infrastructure. Which is why I stated that the current infrastructure isn't able to handle that kind of bandwidth at this time.
 
Lenny. All i can say is your broadcast stats and beliefs about them are, um, delusional. I'm sorry you get mad if anyone criticizes your stream. I'm truly sorry about that.

And you know what when Weez was leading the chatroom in denegrating poor heather (the worst i've heard or seen on any stream anywhere!) i complained about it to him (i had to because the bunch of mods did nothing). His answer "I'm not getting paid for it so i'm going to do whatever.'' You know what Lenny that's the same excuse you use anytime someone says the slightest thing negative about your stream.

If you can't take responsibility like an adult maybe you shouldn't be doing the stream. Go ahead start calling me names, etc. I really don't mind.

ps. a moderator was participating in the denegration so your belief in them isn't well placed.

Yeah really delusional, did you read the word unique viewers, it does show the other number which is returning viewers. Right now TAR is running solid 400+ viewers and is not on the home page of Ustream, many come and go, the numbers for today will probably be over 5,000 unique viewers, not sure why you think that is hard to believe. I am curious as to what you know about online traffic.

Like I said you are obviously from Arizona, your constantly negative with your opinions especially with streamers. Sorry but I will do my stream as I feel because it is mine, when you have yours you can do the same, if you do not like it then maybe you should just watch American Idol or something and complain about the flawed voting system they have. Your damn right I will get upset with your BS complaints, it happens when females play and you have a mass of males who are in chat rooms and get out of line whether its knocking what she is wearing, how she looks good or bad or her game.

I think when I am there I keep a handle on things quite well, the mods in the chat need to do the same thing but they cannot control who is speaking in the mic and what they are saying, that is on me. If you want to out the mod who was taking part in the negativity I will take care of that too. I will make sure that Weez is told about it and it wont happen again, your right he is not getting paid to jump on the mic and commentate but I will not let him get on the mic and make poor comments in poor taste either nor anyone else because I know peoples friends/family and also kids do watch. Understand this I like Heather and think she is a very nice young lady so to act as if I and OTR condone this is retarded frankly.

My attitude about the stream is I am not getting paid and doing it for the love of the game. I try to bring a good weekly pool stream and have succeeded with that, lots of fan, sponsor support and a ton of my time and money to make it happen. I do what I can and if people are negative about it then get lost, do not need people like that around, people frankly like you can take a hike. You live in Arizona so come down and play, like I said your a know it all D player who hides behind a screen name trolling. :wink:
 
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